WYO @ SDSU

[LawPoke]

Any word on Nance going forward?

 

[BeaverPoke]

With Nance we have a shot at the MWC Tourney.
We have a shot at any game Nance is in, and I won't give up all hope at the MWC title, but we need Nance back ASAP and we need Boise and SDSU to slip up somewhere they shouldn't.
And if Nance is back for the MWC Tourney, we can win 3 games.

If we don't get a MWC title this season, and don't make the Big Dance, I am going to be skeptical of Shyatt for the first time.

I've been questioning his stuff lately, but not skeptical.
I don't understand why we have so little depth after 4 years. Meanwhile I am watching Coach Tinkle take a team who was projected to win 5 games all season, been put on blast for lack of talent, and held open F***** tryouts on campus, go 10 deep on the roster and be in the top third of the Pac12 in year 1.

Why aren't Wyo's players ready to contribute? Why do only go 7 deep?
Why does it take so long to develop players?

Just let the players go play the game. Quit playing not to lose.

 

[Cuttslam]

Adams sure has regressed. This program is cursed. And this team is going to be horrific next year.

His attitude is cancer. It was awful at AFA.

I guess the truth hurts.

 

[WyoBrandX]

This team really needs to figure out how to score some points on nights like the last two.

We have a good defense by default and we have a great defense when our offense runs the pace and makes baskets. When we play against a tough defense like SDSU, it quickly becomes a house of cards that falls apart. Somethings gotta give offensively.

Hell, if LNJ was in the game right now, its possible we might have another 15 points or so - and this is a game.

Shyatt himself is a good guy. He did a good job here last time (1 year). Brought in a lot of good talent. Went to clemson and didn't do so hot. Now that he is back here, I think he has done wonders. Can he take it further? I don't know.

We dug ourselves a pretty big grave with Shroyer. I'm certain that has hurt our recruiting a bit. Add in the fact everyone turned old all of a sudden and the AA is now considerably quieter than it used to be - and its certainly a challenge.

That said - I think its time for a new AD. He doesn't have much to do with this game - but I think has screwed up with coaching hires in the past; I think the policies in place at the AA are terrible; our coaches and players deserve a chance - and he isn't giving it to them.

At what point to the players WANT to succeed in spite of all that BS you just wrote down? Yeah its hard to recruit to Laramie, yeah the fans are snake bitten after shroyer, yeah there are some weird rules at the AA and a whole myriad of other EXCUSES. When do the players want a different outcome? When do the player say enough is enough, lets get the ship headed in the right direction? Is there no such thing as personal accountability anymore?

WTF? Laramie is no harder to recruit too than the other 300+ basketball teams out there. At some point you have to realize there is more to the game than just the players and the coaches. That would be the culture that is being instilled upon the team. It may go higher than the AD.

If you feel like my posts are BS, please feel free to not respond and GFY.

 

[LawPoke]

Did anyone listen to the postgame? What did Shyatt say?

 

[seattlecowboy]

Any word on Nance going forward?

I read on the other board they said on the radio he will be out until the Fresno St. game on the 25th. So we have to play 2 more games without him if that is true.

 

[LawPoke]

Any word on Nance going forward?

I read on the other board they said on the radio he will be out until the Fresno St. game on the 25th. So we have to play 2 more games without him if that is true.

Thanks. If true, Shy and the boys have their work cut out. I hope they prove all of us negative Nellie types wrong...but doing so will require a hell of a lot better show than tonight.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Did anyone listen to the postgame? What did Shyatt say?

I am listening. He said he takes full responsibility for the way the game was played and he is too blame for the loss. He doesn't want anyone criticizing the kids just criticize him. Said he won't ever blame the players. He is going to do the best he can to try and get this fixed and that no one feels as sad as he does about the last 2 games.

 

[Cuttslam]

Everyone calm down. Geeeeez. Stop calling or Shyatt's head. We're lucky to have him.

Ya we are real lucky CBI, CBI, CBI, CBI, CBI. No Nance no chance.

 

[calpoke25]

And to think I was laughed at earlier today when I said the 02 team would wax the floor with our current team, Nance or no Nance.

 

[Cuttslam]

Can someone confirm this. Larry Shyatt has been a head coach for 11 total years and has never been in the NCAA tournament?

 

[kansasCowboy]

Everyone calm down. Geeeeez. Stop calling or Shyatt's head. We're lucky to have him.

Ya we are real lucky CBI, CBI, CBI, CBI, CBI. No Nance no chance.

After what. A team that went 12-18, 19-14, 10-21, 10-21 disbanded and killed our depth. He's been working on our depth issue for this his "FOURTH" year. (Since people like to say his fifth). He has had sizes with injury and transfers and now people just quitting. Blame Shyatt or blame the players for lack of depth, pick and choose I guess.
Shy you've done a Hell of a job. Keep us movin in the right direction! This is just a speed bump.

 

[CowboyNV]

Can someone confirm this. Larry Shyatt has been a head coach for 11 total years and has never been in the NCAA tournament?

He's been to the NIT his first year at UW, NIT his first year at Clemson, and 3 CBI's at Wyoming

 

[WyoBrandX]

Can someone confirm this. Larry Shyatt has been a head coach for 11 total years and has never been in the NCAA tournament?

The closest I can come is with wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Shyatt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
10 years a head coach
Nearly 5 years at Wyoming in two stints
2 NIT rounds (1 Wyoming and 1 at Clemson)
3 CBI's (3 at Wyoming, Second Stint)

Thats the closest I can confirm.

I'm not aware of him going to the NCAA tournaments in any of those years. However, he had a very bad run at Clemson. He has had a much better run at Wyoming.

 

[Cuttslam]

Can someone confirm this. Larry Shyatt has been a head coach for 11 total years and has never been in the NCAA tournament?

He's been to the NIT his first year at UW, NIT his first year at Clemson, and 3 CBI's at Wyoming

So that would be a no.

 

[CowboyNV]

Worse than that, here are his teams finishes in conference play.

He finished 5th in the WAC his first year at Wyoming.

He finished 7th, then 9th, then 9th, then 9th, then 8th in the ACC.

He finished 6th, 8th, then 6th in the MWC.

Pretty mediocre record - WAIT - we love mediocre.

 

[djm19]

No comment on this. SDSU shot lights out. Nothing you can do.

I said this would happen and it did. These guys better dig deep. Talk on social media is cheap. They need to find themselves or season can spiral in a real hurry

 

[WyoBrandX]

No comment on this. SDSU shot lights out. Nothing you can do.

I said this would happen and it did. These guys better dig deep. Talk on social media is cheap. They need to find themselves or season can spiral in a real hurry

Our defense requires a bit of pace on offense. SDSU's came out and mugged us on defense. SDSU shot very well on offense (blame our defense). We shot very poorly on offense. SDSU won this game by playing some hellacious defense. We were short on depth. SDSU had their 'walkons' playing with less than 5 minutes left in the game.

I think we could have won this game if we were completely healthy. We are far from it. I think SDSU was better prepared. They had a huge home advantage on us. We were under prepared.

 

[Cuttslam]

Worse than that, here are his teams finishes in conference play.

He finished 5th in the WAC his first year at Wyoming.

He finished 7th, then 9th, then 9th, then 9th, then 8th in the ACC.

He finished 6th, 8th, then 6th in the MWC.

Pretty mediocre record - WAIT - we love mediocre.

Wow, that is waaaaaay worse than I thought.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Can someone confirm this. Larry Shyatt has been a head coach for 11 total years and has never been in the NCAA tournament?

He's been to the NIT his first year at UW, NIT his first year at Clemson, and 3 CBI's at Wyoming

So that would be a no.

Shyatt is a great X's and O's coach. Great with fundamentals.
And I think that he demands an extremely high level of understanding and understanding of the fundamentals or the players don't get on the court.

And that screws himself over.

You have JRs and SRs playing 35+ minutes a game. Meanwhile freshmen don't see the court. They are trying to not mess up instead of just playing ball.

I said it earlier, but after watching the way the Beavers new coach empties the entire bench (they held open fuckin tryouts on campus this year and kept like 3 or 4 of the guys) and let's the kids go play, instead of being worried about getting burned and not being perfect fundamentally, I am questioning why we don't have shit for depth.

We don't have players who can play at this level. We are 4 years in, and we don't have players that can play.