WYO @ SDSU

[Cosmic Cowboy]

We have some major offseason work to put in to get up to speed for next year. Our guys need to hit the weight room fucking hard and look to expand their games. This game is just pushing my anxiety for next season through the roof.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I am really torn right now. I want to love Shyatt but he continually gets out coached. Either he's not coaching or his players aren't responding. Why our team cannot defend a three is beyond me. Its frickin maddening.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

If they're feeling like shit with mono I say sit them. We've lost our at large bid chance. Might as well just get the team as healthy as possible and try to win the MWC tourney. It's all we got now.

 

[LawPoke]

Wyoming 8 turnovers
San Diego St. 2 turnovers

Wyoming from 3 .... 1-11
San Diego St. from 3 .... 6-10

Yikes. If Larry does not play vs. SJSU, we could be in trouble. Let that sink in.

Not two weeks ago, we were actually part of the bracketology discussion...man it is hard being a Cowboy fan.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

The way weve played the last two games, we don't deserve a CBI invite. We wouldnt win a game.

 

[fromolwyoming]

I am really torn right now. I want to love Shyatt but he continually gets out coached. Either he's not coaching or his players aren't responding. Why our team cannot defend a three is beyond me. Its frickin maddening.

And why can't our guys hit wide open 3 consistently? Hankerson was doing that, but can't seem to hit the broadside of a bard with a bazooka from point blank range. Grabau is streaky at best. Adams, I don't know. Cooke can't do anything from over 3 feet away from the hoop.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

The way weve played the last two games, we don't deserve a CBI invite. We wouldnt win a game.

I agree with you. Was just trying to make all the positive people happy . :lol: I pretty much have to make jokes and laugh about it because this team has completely fallen apart within a week.

 

[DocHolliday]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

 

[seattlecowboy]

We might as well give Nance a yellow cape and let him wear it during games as he seems like superman for us and without him we look worse than SJSU.

 

[LawPoke]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

The way weve played the last two games, we don't deserve a CBI invite. We wouldnt win a game.

Frankly, I don't want to go to the CBI, even if we get an invite. It is actually an embarrassment to think the CBI matters and only feeds the view that we love mediocrity and celebrate it. To me, CBI is short for Covering Burman's Inadequacy. Every time we accept invites to the CBI it just allows the admin to tout that they got to the postseason. What a freaking joke. No heart. No desire. Lots of give up and pout.

Shyatt had better gain some thicker skin because this could get really really ugly. And if he was disappointed in our crowds earlier in the season, wait until he sees how folks in Wyoming react to a team that has no heart and gives up before the ball is even tossed into the air...right, wrong of indifferent, they are lucky SJSU is a Saturday game or else there would be less than 3k in the AA. Can't wait to be frisked constantly by the ticket Nazis on Saturday to catch the upcoming shitshow.

 

[DocHolliday]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

The way weve played the last two games, we don't deserve a CBI invite. We wouldnt win a game.

Frankly, I don't want to go to the CBI, even if we get an invite. It is actually an embarrassment to think the CBI matters and only feeds the view that we love mediocrity and celebrate it. To me, CBI is short for Covering Burman's Inadequacy. Every time we accept invites to the CBI it just allows the admin to tout that they got to the postseason. What a freaking joke. No heart. No desire. Lots of give up and pout.

With all due respect, why does Burman take the hit for this game tonight - or if the team is invited to the CBI yet again? By the way, I'm with you, I have zero interest in the CBI.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

This is really snapping into focus for me as well. I have found myself wondering in the last few weeks if he's the guy for us. He recruits the same players, undersized, raw talent, projects and none of them have panned out. Cooke can't shoot, Grabau doesn't do anything great, Adams is seemingly regressing, Hankerson blew his load in non conference, Herndon has no killer instinct and no muscle to make his shot (Cooke 2.0), Aka Gorski and Lieberman seem like compliments and not leaders, and Mac is average at best. I see nothing going forward to lead me to believe were going to take that step to the next level. Am I missing something?

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Well I wonder how long Nance will be out because if this keeps up there will be no NIT either. CBI again. We lead the nation in CBI invites.

The way weve played the last two games, we don't deserve a CBI invite. We wouldnt win a game.

Frankly, I don't want to go to the CBI, even if we get an invite. It is actually an embarrassment to think the CBI matters and only feeds the view that we love mediocrity and celebrate it. To me, CBI is short for Covering Burman's Inadequacy. Every time we accept invites to the CBI it just allows the admin to tout that they got to the postseason. What a freaking joke. No heart. No desire. Lots of give up and pout.

With all due respect, why does Burman take the hit for this game tonight - or if the team is invited to the CBI yet again? By the way, I'm with you, I have zero interest in the CBI.

Agreed. Tonight and this seasons failings have nothing to do with Burman. I hope we decline our CBI invite

 

[seattlecowboy]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

I have actually thought about a lot of these points a few different times and wondered if we are about where we can get to with Shyatt but I haven't decided yet. I agree that our defense is decent but not elite. A lot of it is because of the pace we play and of course we have one good player that seems to be more important to the team than any could imagine.

If it wasn't for having Leonard Washington the first two years when Shyatt was here and then having Nance these last two I have to wonder what kind of record we would have... I am thinking it wouldn't be pretty. I am hoping things get better though they turn out for the good and our recruits coming in next year are what will get us over the hump in the next couple of years. If not then not sure where to go next.

 

[DocHolliday]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

This is really snapping into focus for me as well. I have found myself wondering in the last few weeks if he's the guy for us. He recruits the same players, undersized, raw talent, projects and none of them have panned out. Cooke can't shoot, Grabau doesn't do anything great, Adams is seemingly regressing, Hankerson blew his load in non conference, Herndon has no killer instinct and no muscle to make his shot (Cooke 2.0), Aka Gorski and Lieberman seem like compliments and not leaders, and Mac is average at best. I see nothing going forward to lead me to believe were going to take that step to the next level. Am I missing something?

Not at all...other than when/if the team regresses next season, then just how good of a job is Shyatt really doing?

He started to lose me seriously after the SD State game (at home) when he whined about being hurt because of some criticism from unnamed sources after that game...as if trying and doing our best is good enough - and should be good enough, and how dare anyone expect something more substantive from Wyoming Basketball. Big time coaches don't do that. If the mission was to be simply mediocre then I guess Shyatt has accomplished the objective.

 

[SDPokeFan]

I think it's a very real possibility we never make another NCAA tournament.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

This is really snapping into focus for me as well. I have found myself wondering in the last few weeks if he's the guy for us. He recruits the same players, undersized, raw talent, projects and none of them have panned out. Cooke can't shoot, Grabau doesn't do anything great, Adams is seemingly regressing, Hankerson blew his load in non conference, Herndon has no killer instinct and no muscle to make his shot (Cooke 2.0), Aka Gorski and Lieberman seem like compliments and not leaders, and Mac is average at best. I see nothing going forward to lead me to believe were going to take that step to the next level. Am I missing something?

Not at all...other than when/if the team regresses next season, then just how good of a job is Shyatt really doing?

He started to lose me seriously after the SD State game (at home) when he whined about being hurt because of some criticism from unnamed sources after that game...as if trying and doing our best is good enough - and should be good enough, and how dare anyone expect something more substantive from Wyoming Basketball. Big time coaches don't do that. If the mission was to be simply mediocre then I guess Shyatt has accomplished the objective.

I have never appreciated how often he talks about the perception and criticism of this team. You would never hear Coach K whine about his team getting criticized. He would get back on the court and coach his team up and out of their issues. You don't want to hear criticism, play better. Have your fucking team ready for a game.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

This is really snapping into focus for me as well. I have found myself wondering in the last few weeks if he's the guy for us. He recruits the same players, undersized, raw talent, projects and none of them have panned out. Cooke can't shoot, Grabau doesn't do anything great, Adams is seemingly regressing, Hankerson blew his load in non conference, Herndon has no killer instinct and no muscle to make his shot (Cooke 2.0), Aka Gorski and Lieberman seem like compliments and not leaders, and Mac is average at best. I see nothing going forward to lead me to believe were going to take that step to the next level. Am I missing something?

I disagree with being this upset with Shyatt. He's had great success and then horrible luck 3 years in a row now. As far as his recruits go our biggest failures are not having that 3rd guy this year/being one big man shy in depth. Our freshmen I think we develop well but they're just frosh on a Senior loaded team. They have seemed a little tentative but look to be progressing in season (even if it's just slightly). What's happening right now makes me think Nance just might be an NBA talent. I expected this game tonight to be ugly and I don't expect us to be in games until Nance gets back. We get him back in time for the MWC we could still make the NCAA this year.

 

[DocHolliday]

And so, are some here ready to stop with the glorification of Larry Shyatt?

Don't misunderstand me, I believe he is a decent coach, knows the game very well, however, I've started to believe he's brought the program as far as he may be able to bring it.

In 5 years just where is the program from a recruiting standpoint?

Sans Larry Nance Jr, where are the difference makers he's brought to Laramie? Where are the shooters? Capable ball handlers?

This offense is a tough watch, man, and my goodness, the predictability of our offensive sets (which never change) make game planning for us a piece of cake for opposing teams.

I'm also skeptical of hearing some claim we have a great defense. As has been mentioned here before, I think much of the statistical minutia surrounding our defense has much to do with our milk it until the last second offense.

Lastly, be careful when criticizing coach Shyatt, as he seems to be pretty prickly about anyone not being satisfied with what his team has accomplished this season.

This is really snapping into focus for me as well. I have found myself wondering in the last few weeks if he's the guy for us. He recruits the same players, undersized, raw talent, projects and none of them have panned out. Cooke can't shoot, Grabau doesn't do anything great, Adams is seemingly regressing, Hankerson blew his load in non conference, Herndon has no killer instinct and no muscle to make his shot (Cooke 2.0), Aka Gorski and Lieberman seem like compliments and not leaders, and Mac is average at best. I see nothing going forward to lead me to believe were going to take that step to the next level. Am I missing something?

Not at all...other than when/if the team regresses next season, then just how good of a job is Shyatt really doing?

He started to lose me seriously after the SD State game (at home) when he whined about being hurt because of some criticism from unnamed sources after that game...as if trying and doing our best is good enough - and should be good enough, and how dare anyone expect something more substantive from Wyoming Basketball. Big time coaches don't do that. If the mission was to be simply mediocre then I guess Shyatt has accomplished the objective.

I have never appreciated how often he talks about the perception and criticism of this team. You would never hear Coach K whine about his team getting criticized. He would get back on the court and coach his team up and out of their issues. You don't want to hear criticism, play better. Have your fucking team ready for a game.

Indeed, he's very touchy when it comes to that kind of stuff. There was a football coach we had not too long ago who is no longer around who used to be sensitive to criticism as well.