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This rumor REALLY concerns me

LanderPoke said:
Wonder what will happen to the Rose Bowl
My guess is BiG10 or whatever number they end up with v. SEC. geography is simply not as much of a factor as it used to be.
 
LanderPoke said:
Wonder what will happen to the Rose Bowl

They are part of the College Football Playoffs each year.
https://thespun.com/college-football/the-future-of-the-rose-bowl-had-already-been-decided
 
Wonder what will happen to the other PAC-12 bowls i.e., LA Bowl, Holiday, Alamo, Vegas, etc...?
 
Sounds like csu, suds, and af are potential targets of pac 4 expansion. It'll be interesting to see if the pac4 can pull something off without a media deal in place.

I know everyone is counting on buyouts for stability. Maybe the buyouts will prevent movement. However, I personally don't think we're out of the woods yet and I think suds and csu would do anything in their power to separate from the mwc even if it doesn't make financial sense. I have no idea on af.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Sounds like csu, suds, and af are potential targets of pac 4 expansion. It'll be interesting to see if the pac4 can pull something off without a media deal in place.

I know everyone is counting on buyouts for stability. Maybe the buyouts will prevent movement. However, I personally don't think we're out of the woods yet and I think suds and csu would do anything in their power to separate from the mwc even if it doesn't make financial sense. I have no idea on af.

mmm interesting. It seems like the prevailing wisdom is that the separation between the haves and the have-nots is going to go from unofficial to official in the near future. In that scenario...There is almost no price to pay in the near term by programs like CSU that doesn't make financial sense...the money for the "haves" will dwarf whatever they would have to pay to get into the club right?
 
It's interesting that both CSU and SDSU bought new stadiums....if they get left out of the realignment....that money is an albatross. They are pot-committed at this point. If they stay in an MWC that does not have access to the larger media money...that is the worst case scenario for them.
 
307bball said:
It's interesting that both CSU and SDSU bought new stadiums....if they get left out of the realignment....that money is an albatross. They are pot-committed at this point. If they stay in an MWC that does not have access to the larger media money...that is the worst case scenario for them.

What does "pot-committed" mean? I am not familiar with that terminology.
 
307bball said:
It's interesting that both CSU and SDSU bought new stadiums....if they get left out of the realignment....that money is an albatross. They are pot-committed at this point. If they stay in an MWC that does not have access to the larger media money...that is the worst case scenario for them.

What does "pot-committed" mean? I am not familiar with that terminology.
 
doreno5 said:
307bball said:
It's interesting that both CSU and SDSU bought new stadiums....if they get left out of the realignment....that money is an albatross. They are pot-committed at this point. If they stay in an MWC that does not have access to the larger media money...that is the worst case scenario for them.

What does "pot-committed" mean? I am not familiar with that terminology.

It's a poker term..from pokernews.com: "being pot committed means having arrived at a point in a poker hand at which folding to any bet or raise has become an incorrect play"

It's used in other contexts to mean having reached a point of no return...or believing that to be the case.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Sounds like csu, suds, and af are potential targets of pac 4 expansion. It'll be interesting to see if the pac4 can pull something off without a media deal in place.

I know everyone is counting on buyouts for stability. Maybe the buyouts will prevent movement. However, I personally don't think we're out of the woods yet and I think suds and csu would do anything in their power to separate from the mwc even if it doesn't make financial sense. I have no idea on af.

Unless the PAC 2, 4, whatever they are, pays for the buyouts, I don’t see this happening.
 
Itsux2beaewe said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
Sounds like csu, suds, and af are potential targets of pac 4 expansion. It'll be interesting to see if the pac4 can pull something off without a media deal in place.

I know everyone is counting on buyouts for stability. Maybe the buyouts will prevent movement. However, I personally don't think we're out of the woods yet and I think suds and csu would do anything in their power to separate from the mwc even if it doesn't make financial sense. I have no idea on af.

Unless the PAC 2, 4, whatever they are, pays for the buyouts, I don’t see this happening.

The pac money distribution from this year is still unsettled. There are only 4 voting members this year; do they decide how revenue is split? Just to 4 or all 12? . They also don't need them all at once. 1 next year then 2 the following is possible. The bigger issue is tv. Would pac 4 + whatever command a tv contract? Would our media partners shell out another 10 or 20 mill/year for wsu/osu or all 4? Would the aac's partners shell out more?

Waaay too many unknowns in a pretty complex situation to be certain about anything.
 
303cowboy said:
[media]https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1694542159435706789?s=20[/media]

That’s complete made up bullsh##. That makes no sense for MWC schools to pay exit fees and drastically increase travel costs to play Alabama-Birmingham, Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Temple and Rice.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
303cowboy said:
[media]https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1694542159435706789?s=20[/media]

That’s complete made up bullsh##. That makes no sense for MWC schools to pay exit fees and drastically increase travel costs to play Alabama-Birmingham, Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Temple and Rice.

Agree. I've been following that guy through the PAC breakup. He's a BS artist. If you want some high-quality entertainment, read the comments from Oregon St and Wash St fans. They're grasping at straws. It still hasn't hit them that they aren't going to be part of the P5/P4/P anything moving forward.
 
Glad to see you guys catching on, lol. MHver3 is an absolute hack who, like a few others, is just trying to jump on the realignment news train and hit it big. He literally does just throw spaghetti at the wall.

To be honest, the only names I really, almost unquestionably trust are McMurphy and Thamel. There's some other school-specific insiders that have good track records, but those two (particularly Thamel) are the cream of the crop, have legit sources, and don't gamble by spouting potential bullsh**.
 
Seems like Washington state is resigned to the fact they are MWC bound. Oregon state is still in the throes of delusion
 
LanderPoke said:
Seems like Washington state is resigned to the fact they are MWC bound. Oregon state is still in the throes of delusion

I'm surprised they can't see that they are merely the first casualty. More from the p5 (now p4) ranks will be joining them. There is no avenue back to the highest level of football for them and soon to be others.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
LanderPoke said:
Seems like Washington state is resigned to the fact they are MWC bound. Oregon state is still in the throes of delusion

I'm surprised they can't see that they are merely the first casualty. More from the p5 (now p4) ranks will be joining them. There is no avenue back to the highest level of football for them and soon to be others.
I like the idea of adding Oregon State and Washington State to the MWC. Not fond of the idea of additional expansion beyond those 2.
 
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