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TCU and Houston looks to be leaving for Big East
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fromolwyoming
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There is also the issue of TCU's President or AD saying that they have not been in contact with the Big East.TwoTone said:Wyokie said:
Yea but it cites no sources and is very vague.
Almost seems like you doom sayers want them to leve just to prove you right. :thumbdown:
fromolwyoming said:There is also the issue of TCU's President or AD saying that they have not been in contact with the Big East.TwoTone said:Wyokie said:
Yea but it cites no sources and is very vague.
Almost seems like you doom sayers want them to leve just to prove you right. :thumbdown:
I'm not one of those doomsayers. I want TCU to stay!
TwoTone said:
I agree with WYokie that losing TCU would hurt, but from what I read I think there is less than a 50% chance of them going to the Big East (at least for the near future). All this conference realignment is driving college sports right into the ground. Wyoming needs to get to the level of TCU and Utah and we aren't going to do that by having 16,000 show up for an important game with beautiful weather and we can't wait another 4 or 5 years to get there either.
[quoteWyoming needs to get to the level of TCU and Utah and we aren't going to do that by having 16,000 show up for an important game with beautiful weather and we can't wait another 4 or 5 years to get there either.][/quote]
So how do we get fans to come out? I say fans will come if we are winning and competing for conference championships. For a decade we haven't come close to competing for a conference championship ( got third in 06? With a 6-6 overall record?). I don't know how to close the gap between us and the top of the conference, and neither does our administration. Although the gap did just close a little with Utah leaving and if TCU leaves (not saying they are but there is a decent chance) then the gap closes even more. I really believe the best thing for Wyoming would be to compete for a conference championship year in and year out. That would do more for recruiting and attendance then anything else, and with teams like Utah leaving the conference we have a better shot at that.
I know most people will say fans will not come out for competing against lower competion at the D1 level, and it might be comparing apples to oranges but a league made up of teams without TCU and Utah is probably comparable to the WAC of the early 90's and late 80's which was wyoming last great years of football.
So how do we get fans to come out? I say fans will come if we are winning and competing for conference championships. For a decade we haven't come close to competing for a conference championship ( got third in 06? With a 6-6 overall record?). I don't know how to close the gap between us and the top of the conference, and neither does our administration. Although the gap did just close a little with Utah leaving and if TCU leaves (not saying they are but there is a decent chance) then the gap closes even more. I really believe the best thing for Wyoming would be to compete for a conference championship year in and year out. That would do more for recruiting and attendance then anything else, and with teams like Utah leaving the conference we have a better shot at that.
I know most people will say fans will not come out for competing against lower competion at the D1 level, and it might be comparing apples to oranges but a league made up of teams without TCU and Utah is probably comparable to the WAC of the early 90's and late 80's which was wyoming last great years of football.
PokePride.com
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TCU + Big East = Someone needs a geography lesson.
calpoke25
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marcuswyo said:
How do we get the fans to come out? Great question. I don't know. Wyoming fans are picky and stubborn. People will casually blame our poor attendance on our current decade-plus streak of sucking, but even if you go back to the good days of Cowboy football in the late 80's through late 90's our attendance wasn't really any better than it is now. I remember watching the 1996 team play in front of 15K.
Look at a team like Iowa St. They suck, and have sucked for the better part of the past 50-60 years, yet they still fill up their stadium every week. This is our biggest shortcoming as a program. if we ever want to be a "big-time" program we have to have to back that up with attendance.
Fullback41
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exactly, even when doing well we don't fill the seats. Not enough die hards in Laramie and Cheyenne or the entire state for that matter. fact is there are so few people in wyoming that the fans we do have also have kids in sports, live multiple hours away, hunt, work, and have lives outside of college football on saturdays. I wish we were all rich retirees with a passion for college football, but thats not realistic. Per capita I think we are some of the best fans in the world, we just have low population and a small alumni compared to others.
that said, we do need to continue to work on it in every direction and it will improve. We can't use it as an exuse...if we do that we will be losers.
that said, we do need to continue to work on it in every direction and it will improve. We can't use it as an exuse...if we do that we will be losers.
I have always said use the Clemson model. Clemson itself is a smaller town than Laramie. Granted, they do have more cities surrounding to bring in fans from. However lets cut Clemsons stadium down to half, 40k seats, the cities of Cheyenne, Casper, Rawlins could easily fill it up with plenty to spare.
Clemson isn't all that good on a yearly basis nor does it have all that much tradition either. Only 1 national championship, in 81, which is still disputed. What they do well is act like a Big time program. They take their football very serious. Having grown up in SEC country I know the religious mentality of football in the south having been around it so long. So how do we bring some of that thinking and tradition into the UW program? How do we get students on campus to stop wearing other schools apparel, *cough cough Nebraska*, on campus and be damn proud to support the Pokes?
Or do we just hold the line with what we have and hope that a winning season or two will revolutionize the way this program is perceived?
Clemson isn't all that good on a yearly basis nor does it have all that much tradition either. Only 1 national championship, in 81, which is still disputed. What they do well is act like a Big time program. They take their football very serious. Having grown up in SEC country I know the religious mentality of football in the south having been around it so long. So how do we bring some of that thinking and tradition into the UW program? How do we get students on campus to stop wearing other schools apparel, *cough cough Nebraska*, on campus and be damn proud to support the Pokes?
Or do we just hold the line with what we have and hope that a winning season or two will revolutionize the way this program is perceived?
Corn, have you been to a game at Neyland Stadium? I'm thinking about going to the Montana/Tennessee game next September.
fromolwyoming
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Our problem is, is that many students come from out of state, whereas Clemson most likely has mostly local students from the surrounding area. We get guys from Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Montana, etc who already have big name schools that they grew up with. Plus, the last decade or so hasn't helped much either. :?Cornpoke said:
marcuswyo said:
Going off the 2009 media guide.....
Highest attendance was in 1990 but that was for 7 home games
149,625
Highest average was in 1977
24,831 but that was with having only 5 home games.
In a normal 6 game home schedule...
Highestest year attendance was in 1988 (142,516)
Highest average attendance in a normal 6 game home slate....
23,753 in 1988
kansasCowboy
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Comparably, we also played good name comp that year as well.
Many times. Having lived in Knoxville for many years I have attended many Vols games. Always pulling for the other teamMrTitleist said:
The intimidation of Neyland is waaaay overrated. It's the quietest 100k people you will ever hear. My eyes can't take that orange burned into them ever again! Oh and don't get me started on how many times they play rocky top :brick: I used all the recruitment letters they sent me for fire starter. Meeting fat Fulmer was no honor either. One of my favorite pictures is with Jay Cutler outside of Neyland after Vandy beat them for the first time in 20 years.
