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Last time Wyoming had great (or even good) coordinators?

McPeachy

McPeachy

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I am thinking the Tiller regime.

Brock Spack was the DC - currently the HC at Illinois State University (13-2 last year and FCS runner up)
Larry Korpitz was the OC - also our QB coach (passed away from brain cancer in 1997 very unfortunately)

Pretty sure no staff (since) can even come close to matching what those 2 brought to UW in the mid 90's.
 
McPeachy said:
I am thinking the Tiller regime.

Brock Spack was the DC - currently the HC at Illinois State University (13-2 last year and FCS runner up)
Larry Korpitz was the OC - also our QB coach (passed away from brain cancer in 1997 very unfortunately)

Pretty sure no staff (since) can even come close to matching what those 2 brought to UW in the mid 90's.
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Breske was a pretty good D Coordinator. Montgomery from DC staff has been climbing the coaching ladder...as has Jim Harding who is the DC at Utah. DC was a good OC....but not a good coach if that counts. I'm sure there are a couple others, but not many.
 
Gregg Brandon was a pretty solid coordinator with a good background. DC's ego severely limited Brandon and he was smart to leave. Brandon's offensive scheme is finding great success as a current HC at the D2 level.

I guess it is important to note that Brandon basically got his start under Roach when the Cowboys were 35-15.
 
Bill Cockhill :lol:

I wish Brock Spack would come back to Wyo. Bohl should hire him as the DC and groom him as the next HC. I thought Gregg Brandon was pretty good but DC wouldn't pay him. I say bring them both back. Brandon was a good HC at Bowling Green ( kicked Joe Glenn's ass one year in Laramie) and he has ties to the tiller and roach. He is the current HC at Colorado school of mines.
 
Not that it matters, but I think Brandon should have been the next HC. He helped recruit a lot of the offensive talent, he had ties to the last great UW teams, and we could keep an offense that had great red zone success ( he may have been able to keep Smith). At the least he could have came in as a coordinator. He has a winning record as a D1 coach.
 
Cornpoke said:
Easy. Under Dimel

OC - Manny Mitsakis
DC - Vic Koenning
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Hmmmm.

May actually agree with the Vic choice, but I wasn't a fan of the triple shoot (I think that was what it was called) that Manny brought in. Of course he only got 1 year to experiment I think (99)?
 
I think English was a great position coach and Colorado recruiter, I think you guys have a little denial when it comes to him as a defensive coordinator. The way our defensive has been playing the last few years does however make him look like Bill Belichick
 
I think English was a great position coach and Colorado recruiter, I think you guys have a little denial when it comes to him as a defensive coordinator. The way our defensive has been playing the last few years does however make him look like Bill Belichick
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Yep, Mike Breske was twice the coordinator than English. He should be standards replacement.
 
marcuswyo said:
I think English was a great position coach and Colorado recruiter, I think you guys have a little denial when it comes to him as a defensive coordinator. The way our defensive has been playing the last few years does however make him look like Bill Belichick
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Yep, Mike Breske was twice the coordinator than English. He should be standards replacement.
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Where is Breske at now? Is he still up at Washington State under Leach?
 
marcuswyo said:
I think English was a great position coach and Colorado recruiter, I think you guys have a little denial when it comes to him as a defensive coordinator. The way our defensive has been playing the last few years does however make him look like Bill Belichick
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Yep, Mike Breske was twice the coordinator than English. He should be standards replacement.
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Except for the fact that Bohl is a 4-3 guy whereas Breske is a 3-4 guy.
 
Breske is at Idaho now. Breske was originally a 4/3 guy. He realized the 4/3 can't work at Wyoming (or similar schools who can't get top Dline talent). He is still using the 3/4 at Idaho. One of the reasons I think Bohl can't get it done here is his use if the 4/3 and his offensive style.
 
McPeachy said:
Cornpoke said:
Easy. Under Dimel

OC - Manny Mitsakis
DC - Vic Koenning
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Hmmmm.

May actually agree with the Vic choice, but I wasn't a fan of the triple shoot (I think that was what it was called) that Manny brought in. Of course he only got 1 year to experiment I think (99)?
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Not a fan of the triple shoot? We went from worst to first in total offense! Even grumpy old LaVell Edwards gave Wyoming some credit!

While serving as Wyoming's Offensive Coordinator in 1999, his Triple Shoot Offense resulted in a record-setting single season conference turnaround from worst to first in scoring & total offense versus Mountain West Conference opponents. “The Triple Shoot Offense is the toast of the Mountain West Conference this year”, said BYU Head Coach LaVell Edwards, after giving up 550 yards & 38 points to the Wyoming Cowboys that year.
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The Triple Shoot Offense.Wyoming calls it the new triple-shoot offense. Opposing coaches say it's one of the most difficult schemes to defend.

It's enough to make a defensive coordinator pull his hair out ... if he had any. Fortunately for UNLV defensive coordinator Jeff McInerney, who has shaved his head bald, that isn't a problem. But trying to find a way to stop Wyoming's unorthodox offense for Saturday's Mountain West Conference game in Laramie is another matter.

"Here's the headache," McInerney said. "We're teaching in a growing defense, trying to improve areas, and we're having trouble putting four consistent quarters together. What (preparing for the Triple Shoot) does is it kind of stops that growing because we have to take time to teach something unconventional."
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That is fascinating to read about - the Triple Shoot - that is. We probably need an offense that is not normally seen. AFA does well with the triple option - and there are only a few teams that run that these days.

Of course, Bohl thinks he can recruit the players he needs to Laramie to run his schemes - and I sure as hell hope he does. But changing those schemes to things nobody ever sees makes it harder to prepare for. And some just flat out suck.

Its interesting.
 
Well, when Vigen calls a half decent play, like a run up the middle when there isn't 8-9 guys in the box, the o-line does a good job and pushes them back and opens up holes for Hill, Wick, and whoever else. The drawback is that Vigen rarely calls decent plays. Often with Hill running straight into the bulk of the entire defense, and barely getting anything out of it, if that. Or calling play action on 3rd and long when the defense has been blitzing on every 3rd down all night.

If Vigen ever figures out how to call the right plays at the right time, 50% or more of the time, I think the offense would be a lot better and may have won a couple of games by now.
 
On the flip side, these two might be the worst coordinators we've ever had. Maybe not individually, but as a duo.

These two reek of being used to having more talent than the other team. Our overall discipline and attention to detail is concerning--even for a young team. That isn't on the players.

Burman (if he hasn't) really needs to get Bohl some respectable salaries in case Bohl chooses to move on at the end of the season. If possible to obtain them, a few excellent coordinators will do more for WYO than anything else we can do.

Great coaching can make an IMMEDIATE impact and doesn't require 7+ years.
 
I can see Bohl canning Stanard (someday), but no way he parts with Vigen. I think he views Vigen as a protege of sorts.
 
Until Wacha went down in the 2nd half, the defense was actually doing a good job of containing Air Force's triple option. No denying that.
 
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