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Fire Burman

He had it all moving the right direction. His staff was excellent (Barbara Burke should have been our AD when Gary moved to Iowa in 2006). He was sought out by ASU for their AD position, after spending time at Washington and Norther Iowa. From my memory and involvement somewhat...his 3 - 4 years at UW brought on planning, and scheduling for things like the Wildcatter, IPF, RAC first renovation, upgraded sound and video, and similar smaller victories. He also had the AA rocking with Bucky, and Joe Glenn hired for football, digging us out of the Koenning doldrums.
He actually was able to retire from the AD position at Iowa so he's obviously good enough at the job.

Had to go remind myself of the actual years that Barta was here. It was '03 to '06. McClain had already peaked and had a .363 winning percentage in conference during those years. He was getting the axe no matter who was replacing Barta. Football had it's (relative) high point in that era culminating in the '04 Vegas Bowl victory. I loved Joe Glenn at the time because of the depths the program had sunk to previous to him, but in retrospect, I don't view the football accomplishments during that time as any better than average.

Whatever planning was put into place that resulted in the upgrades is laudable and I have no trust that Burman could have pulled it off...but again...in retrospect, this investments were never going to be enough. The smartest thing he did was probably to take a job somewhere that had a better shot at collegiate athletic success.

All this to say...I still go back to the mid '90's through 2000 or so as the critical time period where the ball of terribleness began to roll. That era represents a fork in the road that, as time passed, became harder and harder to ignore the effects of. Effective and non-effective administrations have, since that time, used what tools they had at thier disposal to keep things moving forward while the conditions have steadily worsened. At a certain point, it feels like it passed a point of no return.....a point that, realistically speaking, it became unreasonable to expect to return to the historical high points of the UW athletic tradition. For me, at the latest, it was when BYU, Utah, and TCU left the conference....but you could convince me it came earlier than that.
 
He actually was able to retire from the AD position at Iowa so he's obviously good enough at the job.

Had to go remind myself of the actual years that Barta was here. It was '03 to '06. McClain had already peaked and had a .363 winning percentage in conference during those years. He was getting the axe no matter who was replacing Barta. Football had it's (relative) high point in that era culminating in the '04 Vegas Bowl victory. I loved Joe Glenn at the time because of the depths the program had sunk to previous to him, but in retrospect, I don't view the football accomplishments during that time as any better than average.

Whatever planning was put into place that resulted in the upgrades is laudable and I have no trust that Burman could have pulled it off...but again...in retrospect, this investments were never going to be enough. The smartest thing he did was probably to take a job somewhere that had a better shot at collegiate athletic success.

All this to say...I still go back to the mid '90's through 2000 or so as the critical time period where the ball of terribleness began to roll. That era represents a fork in the road that, as time passed, became harder and harder to ignore the effects of. Effective and non-effective administrations have, since that time, used what tools they had at thier disposal to keep things moving forward while the conditions have steadily worsened. At a certain point, it feels like it passed a point of no return.....a point that, realistically speaking, it became unreasonable to expect to return to the historical high points of the UW athletic tradition. For me, at the latest, it was when BYU, Utah, and TCU left the conference....but you could convince me it came earlier than that.
Sternberg report lays it all out and corroborates your analysis here. Since that time, we've had an "aw, shucks, we're just little old Wyoming. We do pretty good!" mentality. It's kind of sickening. I wish someone along the way had just shitcanned the entire AD and brought in some young hungry out of staters who actually know college athletics.
 
Sternberg report lays it all out and corroborates your analysis here. Since that time, we've had an "aw, shucks, we're just little old Wyoming. We do pretty good!" mentality. It's kind of sickening. I wish someone along the way had just shitcanned the entire AD and brought in some young hungry out of staters who actually know college athletics.
That probably is what it would have taken...unfortuantely the time period where that would have made a difference was before there was much appetite for something like that. Imagine if everybody at the higher up levels at UW had been turned over and replaced by "these young hungry out of staters" around 2001? That would have been early enough to realistically change some things but it would have been a political nuclear bomb!

I don't have as much inside info as some...but I have had some contact with folks in charge. I just have never detected the "little old Wyoming" mentality in any coach or person in charge. To the extent it exists, it seems to be in a portion of the casual fan base. My impression (limited so take it with a grain of salt) is that the people in charge hate the way things have gone and are anything but "happy" with where things stand. Obviously that doesn't mean they know what to do...they obviously don't. I know that the press releases are always pumping sunshine...I guess I don't think those are any indicator of the states of mind of any of those folks.
 
My impression (limited so take it with a grain of salt) is that the people in charge hate the way things have gone and are anything but "happy" with where things stand. Obviously that doesn't mean they know what to do...they obviously don't. I know that the press releases are always pumping sunshine...I guess I don't think those are any indicator of the states of mind of any of those folks.
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
 

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