Cowboys to host New Mexico, let's sellout the AA!

[whyoh]

I have a question about the exchange program.......

If a STH turns in their seat do they get a full or partial refund? Can they do it over the phone or does it have to be done online? How well is the word spread about the program? How many STHs know they can even do this?

http://ev12.evenue.net/evenue/linkI...erce3/SEGetGroupList&__utmv=-&__utmk=67753233

So that's not the same as letting the Wyo ticket office resell your seats for the game then?

Really seems like that would be a good idea



Ie: school sells season ticket for let's say $50/seat

Ticket holder realizes he can't make the game and let's ticket office know somehow

If the ticket sells the seat to someone else for the game then they split the price with the STH

school ends up making $75 for a $50 seat and the season ticket holder doesn't feel shafted...win win

 

[LanderPoke]

i don't mind the renovations, and them taking about 3500 seats from the original 15,000, down to 11,612, but during big games the season ticket holders need to step up and fill that lower bowl. Tomorrow's supposed to be a wonderful weather day, the game's not on regular tv, there should not be any excuses. Get to the AA
Fans if you are true Wyoming basketball fan get here!!!!

I get so tired of hearing this BS. We have stepped up. Were the ones committing a large chunk of money to the university. I understand that the flashy things like Maury Brown Court come from donors but the season ticket holders are the ones keeping the lights on. Just because some of them buy and don't attend every game doesn't mean they haven't done their part. Get off that. Maybe if more of the single game buyers would step up and buy season tickets and donate the arena would be fuller too. It goes both ways

But, why would you buy season tickets, and prime ones at that, if you are not going to go to the games. Why not just make a donation to the athletic department or CJC or whatever you rich guys (I say that with respect, I hope to be able to donate craploads of money to UW athletics at some point in my life) do? Is it not accomplishing the same thing? Or request that you season tickets are in the upper bowl, top row, section QQ? I see so many easy fixes for this situation.

 

[WyoRev]

The lower bowl is down to a couple of single seats. I've never sat in the upper bowl and am not going to start now. Does anyone have any lower bowl tickets they want to get rid of? I'm willing to pay 10 over face value for good seats.

Well LA-DE-DA, Mr. fancy pants.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

There's nothing fancy about buying the cheapest ticket available and sitting in the back of the student section. There are a lot of us that did that for years.

It's not like lower bowl tickets are expensive. I can get two of them for 56 bucks. That's dirt cheap.

I would rather watch the game at home and avoid the 9 hours of driving then sit in the nosebleeds.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

i don't mind the renovations, and them taking about 3500 seats from the original 15,000, down to 11,612, but during big games the season ticket holders need to step up and fill that lower bowl. Tomorrow's supposed to be a wonderful weather day, the game's not on regular tv, there should not be any excuses. Get to the AA
Fans if you are true Wyoming basketball fan get here!!!!

I get so tired of hearing this BS. We have stepped up. Were the ones committing a large chunk of money to the university. I understand that the flashy things like Maury Brown Court come from donors but the season ticket holders are the ones keeping the lights on. Just because some of them buy and don't attend every game doesn't mean they haven't done their part. Get off that. Maybe if more of the single game buyers would step up and buy season tickets and donate the arena would be fuller too. It goes both ways

But, why would you buy season tickets, and prime ones at that, if you are not going to go to the games. Why not just make a donation to the athletic department or CJC or whatever you rich guys (I say that with respect, I hope to be able to donate craploads of money to UW athletics at some point in my life) do? Is it not accomplishing the same thing? Or request that you season tickets are in the upper bowl, top row, section QQ? I see so many easy fixes for this situation.

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

 

[WyoRev]

There's nothing fancy about buying the cheapest ticket available and sitting in the back of the student section. There are a lot of us that did that for years.

It's not like lower bowl tickets are expensive. I can get two of them for 56 bucks. That's dirt cheap.

I would rather watch the game at home and avoid the 9 hours of driving then sit in the nosebleeds.

Just giving you a little shit, CJ. No big whoop. Personally, I didn't mind sitting in the upper bowl - but that was when I lived in Laramie. That may be different now since I have to make that 2.5 hour drive through Shirley Basin.

 

[cali2wyo]

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

You're obviously not part of the problem. On the other hand... My parents are at midcourt, row 8. There are 2 seats next to us that have been empty. Every. Fucking. Game. We had friends in town one week and wanted to purchase those tickets so we could all sit together. No matter what, the ticket office couldn't let us sit there because the owner of these prime seats doesn't care. He thinks his donation means so much.

There should be a rule put in place that season ticket holders have to attend a minimum amount of games or transfer their tickets. If the seats go unused more than X number of times, they shouldn't be allowed to renew their tickets

 

[LanderPoke]

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

You're obviously not part of the problem. On the other hand... My parents are at midcourt, row 8. There are 2 seats next to us that have been empty. Every. Fucking. Game. We had friends in town one week and wanted to purchase those tickets so we could all sit together. No matter what, the ticket office couldn't let us sit there because the owner of these prime seats doesn't care. He thinks his donation means so much.

There should be a rule put in place that season ticket holders have to attend a minimum amount of games or transfer their tickets. If the seats go unused more than X number of times, they shouldn't be allowed to renew their tickets

I'm thankful for their donation, but you are right. It makes us look like crap. If they want to donate why don't they just request seats in the upper bowl?

 

[McPeachy]

This is a fascinating thread. And quite the rehash of some of the same shit.

Facts:

1. The reseating process was about as poorly done as possible. For all reasons stated above. Priority points taken over consideration for long time season ticket holders...what? As I have stated before, UW should have contacted all the season ticket holders personally, and asked if they wanted to keep the similar seats...but that by doing so, they would be subjected to a $250 seat premium per. Their choice. Instead, well, you all know.

2. The AA renovations ended up "costing" our seating capacity more than originally thought. By about 2K+. Call it poor design - poor supervision - poor vision - or whatever. I know most here love the renovation, but I am largely unimpressed honestly. Are seats really that much "closer" to the floor? Not really - with the exception of about 300 student seats. Is it better than Moby Gym? Certainly. Is it better than the T&M or Pit? Not even close.

3. Pinnacle @ Nebraska (opened in 2013 - brand new) seats 15,147. They didn't build small. They don't think small at Nebraska I guess...like we do at Wyoming. This is a head scratcher when it comes to basketball. Don't think for one second that schools like Duke wished they sat an extra 5k - 10k at most times. But then again, maybe they wouldn't have the demand then, and would end up costing themselves money.

4. The more demand (by way of less seats) the more you can charge. Mathematics prove UW really is a whore. Bad part is, UW doesn't have the demand right now (as discussed).

5. Although I very much dislike Burman as an AD, and his lack of vision (along with the fact I don't feel he works too hard at the job), the downgrade in seating in both the WAR and AA was a philosophy, and needs to be credited to, the previous administration (Barta / Burke) - which Burman has so shamefully gone along with. I didn't agree with Barta about it, and certainly don't agree with Burman just shrugging his shoulders and "going with it".

/endrant

 

[Wyo2dal]

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

You're obviously not part of the problem. On the other hand... My parents are at midcourt, row 8. There are 2 seats next to us that have been empty. Every. Fucking. Game. We had friends in town one week and wanted to purchase those tickets so we could all sit together. No matter what, the ticket office couldn't let us sit there because the owner of these prime seats doesn't care. He thinks his donation means so much.

There should be a rule put in place that season ticket holders have to attend a minimum amount of games or transfer their tickets. If the seats go unused more than X number of times, they shouldn't be allowed to renew their tickets

I'm thankful for their donation, but you are right. It makes us look like crap. If they want to donate why don't they just request seats in the upper bowl?

Problem is they aren't just donating they are basically reserving, They want to know if they decide to go to a game there seat is there. It's the old Money talks line and that's all it is people with money shouldn't be inconvenienced by bad seating arrangements they should have whatever they want whenever they want.

 

[joshvanklomp]

But, why would you buy season tickets, and prime ones at that, if you are not going to go to the games.

Most of these probably aren't individual buyers, but more likely businesses. These businesses use these tickets for their employees and clients. It's not a 'come every game sort of purchase, but rather 'come when we can.'

I'm thankful for their donation, but you are right. It makes us look like crap. If they want to donate why don't they just request seats in the upper bowl?

If you paid for the most expensive seats, donation or not, would you request to sit in the worst seats in the house?

 

[Wyo2dal]

But, why would you buy season tickets, and prime ones at that, if you are not going to go to the games.

Most of these probably aren't individual buyers, but more likely businesses. These businesses use these tickets for their employees and clients. It's not a 'come every game sort of purchase, but rather 'come when we can.'

I'm thankful for their donation, but you are right. It makes us look like crap. If they want to donate why don't they just request seats in the upper bowl?

If you paid for the most expensive seats, donation or not, would you request to sit in the worst seats in the house?

If it was just as a donation and I never had any intention going I wouldn't buy them I would just donate more money.

 

[joshvanklomp]

If it was just as a donation and I never had any intention going I wouldn't buy them I would just donate more money.

It's not a donation, though. It's a reservation. Hence the name 'reserved seating'.

 

[Wyo2dal]

If it was just as a donation and I never had any intention going I wouldn't buy them I would just donate more money.

It's not a donation, though. It's a reservation. Hence the name 'reserved seating'.

Yes I know exactly what it is, It's so deep pocket people can have their way when they want it. I'd be willing to bet those people would be in those seats had Wyoming beat SDSU and remained in the top 25. Because the majority of them aren't fans they just see the top 25.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

You're obviously not part of the problem. On the other hand... My parents are at midcourt, row 8. There are 2 seats next to us that have been empty. Every. Fucking. Game. We had friends in town one week and wanted to purchase those tickets so we could all sit together. No matter what, the ticket office couldn't let us sit there because the owner of these prime seats doesn't care. He thinks his donation means so much.

There should be a rule put in place that season ticket holders have to attend a minimum amount of games or transfer their tickets. If the seats go unused more than X number of times, they shouldn't be allowed to renew their tickets

I agree that something needs to help entice people to use their seats, how the hell would you even go about monitoring that? And who is going to tell the STH that their contribution is no longer appreciated and they are losing their seats? That seems like a can of worms...Not even worms...a can of pythons....

 

[cali2wyo]

Well, I can answer that. I haven't missed a home football or basketball game this season so I don't know why people buy them and don't attend every game. The older people around me tend to show up for the games, with the exception of the SDSU late night one.

You're obviously not part of the problem. On the other hand... My parents are at midcourt, row 8. There are 2 seats next to us that have been empty. Every. Fucking. Game. We had friends in town one week and wanted to purchase those tickets so we could all sit together. No matter what, the ticket office couldn't let us sit there because the owner of these prime seats doesn't care. He thinks his donation means so much.

There should be a rule put in place that season ticket holders have to attend a minimum amount of games or transfer their tickets. If the seats go unused more than X number of times, they shouldn't be allowed to renew their tickets

I agree that something needs to help entice people to use their seats, how the hell would you even go about monitoring that? And who is going to tell the STH that their contribution is no longer appreciated and they are losing their seats? That seems like a can of worms...Not even worms...a can of pythons....

I understand your hesitations, and I agree. Perhaps instead of punishing owners of unused seats, those who consistently use their seats can be rewarded. Upgraded parking, gift certificates, meet and greet with players, etc.

 

[LanderPoke]

But, why would you buy season tickets, and prime ones at that, if you are not going to go to the games.

Most of these probably aren't individual buyers, but more likely businesses. These businesses use these tickets for their employees and clients. It's not a 'come every game sort of purchase, but rather 'come when we can.'

I'm thankful for their donation, but you are right. It makes us look like crap. If they want to donate why don't they just request seats in the upper bowl?

If you paid for the most expensive seats, donation or not, would you request to sit in the worst seats in the house?

Still applies. These businesses should find people to go to the games or find another way to support the program.

That's just it. I don't know why they buy these expensive seats and not come. Probably to have them once a year, but it makes no sense. If the point is to support the program they should consider a different way

 

[wyopig]

This is all going to work itself out. This season, there was an opportunity to buy season ticket in a renovated building for a team that was supposed to be good. Lost of the corporate sponsors decided to buy as many tickets as allowed. When they realize that they spent $2500 on season tickets that they didn't use this year, they'll probably keep their donation (sponsorship) level the same, but only spend $1000 on season tickets. Our programs don't operate without these guys, so there's no two ways around it. If they want tickets, they get tickets - simply because they're donating $10,000 per year to the program.

Year by year, the biggest fans - the ones that buy season tickets every year and show up to games - are going to move closer and closer to the court. There was a big attraction to buying season tickets this year, but that number will probably drop after Larry Nance graduates.

Another thing that makes me laugh about this thread is all the communist posts about how the people with money are screwing over the rest of us. We have a program to cheer for in Laramie because of those assholes that donate a lot, keep the wheels turning, but unfortunately don't use their tickets.

Finally, I think that the ticket office is working on a deal where if you release your tickets back to the ticket office and they resell them, they'll give you a tax deduction.

 

[Wyo2dal]

This is all going to work itself out. This season, there was an opportunity to buy season ticket in a renovated building for a team that was supposed to be good. Lost of the corporate sponsors decided to buy as many tickets as allowed. When they realize that they spent $2500 on season tickets that they didn't use this year, they'll probably keep their donation (sponsorship) level the same, but only spend $1000 on season tickets. Our programs don't operate without these guys, so there's no two ways around it. If they want tickets, they get tickets - simply because they're donating $10,000 per year to the program.

Year by year, the biggest fans - the ones that buy season tickets every year and show up to games - are going to move closer and closer to the court. There was a big attraction to buying season tickets this year, but that number will probably drop after Larry Nance graduates.

Another thing that makes me laugh about this thread is all the communist posts about how the people with money are screwing over the rest of us. We have a program to cheer for in Laramie because of those assholes that donate a lot, keep the wheels turning, but unfortunately don't use their tickets.

Finally, I think that the ticket office is working on a deal where if you release your tickets back to the ticket office and they resell them, they'll give you a tax deduction.

I think you are reading into something that isn't actually there, No one said people with money were screwing anyone over. I just didn't sugar coat it when I said people with money get what they want. That is actually how the world works.

Hardcore fans are interested in seeing the seats full not hearing about someone who bought tickets and doesn't bother to show up. Deep down we all appreciate that they are there to help the program we just want to see a full arena on TV.

 

[Adv8RU12]

Unfilled prime seats in the lower bowl solution: Rule - If a seat is not filled by the owner by half-time, anyone can move into it. If, for some lame reason, the owner shows in the second half, the occupant shall kindly vacate it.