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Attempt to predict by looking back

I'm here too. It wasn't like there was a ton of value when they were in mwc. Adding osu and wsu doesn't move the needle. None of them beat out the Sun Belt for the 2nd g5 bid. If they're better than the Sun Belt, why no playoff?

As the split with p4 widens, differences between g6 narrow.
I’m thinking who comes out with the most $$ in these lawsuits is the winner. That is why the pee12 is doing everything they can to avoid giving up big money to the MWC that can be used as a recruiting NIL advantage.

It’s all predicated on better positioning to get a playoff spot and if successful those teams will get the chance to be included in the next reorganization at a higher level. The pee12 wanted Memphis, Tulane and BSU but had to settle for BSU and the average MWC member.

The traitors were sucked into the allure of a big media payday. Are any of them on a spending spree right now?
 
I'm here too. It wasn't like there was a ton of value when they were in mwc. Adding osu and wsu doesn't move the needle. None of them beat out the Sun Belt for the 2nd g5 bid. If they're better than the Sun Belt, why no playoff?

As the split with p4 widens, differences between g6 narrow.
Will a small difference in the media deal have any impact on competitive outcomes?
 
Jmu says no
It's a serious question, I'm not looking for outliers....If conference A has a media deal that is 10x conference B, I think we all understand that difference shows up on a lot of ways that make conference A non-competetitive with conference B. If they are equal...I would expect any competetive differences to be the product of other things. What if it's just 2x? or 1.2x....is there a point at which it doesn't matter?

My question is because football program spending is incredibly correlated with succesful outcomes...we love to point to outliers and act like that means it's "possible"....unfortunately, I believe reall winning in college athletics comes with a price tag that you might be able to postpone but if you want reall sustained success, you have to pony up. If the new PAC teams have bigger budgets than the new MWC teams...I assume that will mostly be due to whatever media money they end up making. If they have more $$ for programs/NIL whatever....I don't think it needs to be double...it just needs to be a little bit more and over time, theat advantage will accrue. At least that is my prediction. I hated the unequal payout that Boise St got from the MWC.... and I hate that UNLV and AFA got something similar....it creates an uneven platform from the beginning.
 
It's a serious question, I'm not looking for outliers....If conference A has a media deal that is 10x conference B, I think we all understand that difference shows up on a lot of ways that make conference A non-competetitive with conference B. If they are equal...I would expect any competetive differences to be the product of other things. What if it's just 2x? or 1.2x....is there a point at which it doesn't matter?

My question is because football program spending is incredibly correlated with succesful outcomes...we love to point to outliers and act like that means it's "possible"....unfortunately, I believe reall winning in college athletics comes with a price tag that you might be able to postpone but if you want reall sustained success, you have to pony up. If the new PAC teams have bigger budgets than the new MWC teams...I assume that will mostly be due to whatever media money they end up making. If they have more $$ for programs/NIL whatever....I don't think it needs to be double...it just needs to be a little bit more and over time, theat advantage will accrue. At least that is my prediction. I hated the unequal payout that Boise St got from the MWC.... and I hate that UNLV and AFA got something similar....it creates an uneven platform from the beginning.

There's already a large variation in spending within conference. They'll get a little more but relative to 50-60 nill budgets, not an insurmountable difference.
 
This is funny on many levels, because that is exactly what I do for a living.... However, I would also argue that the Snoop Dogg Gin & Juice Bowl is much closer to intramurals than the Division 1 FCS National Championship Tournament.
With every CFP expansion (16 is coming), the bowls get diminished even more. There will be more declined bowl invites in general. I agree that I'd rather have something to play for (even if it was against a MAC team) than playing in an empty stadium with a shadow of my team because of portal departures against a 6-6 MAC team. That being said, there is too much pride in the way involved with talking about stepping down to FCS.
 
Yes the 80s and 90s were ok, but the real run was in the 60s. A nationally prominent program. I will take the 80s and 90s, but that environment is long gone and now we are in a watered down conference that will soon add Tarleton State and UC-Davis as football members. The smartest thing we did back then was dump UTEP and now they are back.
I think Tarleton State is a program on the rise and would probably beat us now.
 
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