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Things just got interesting in Cheyenne

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Hope you all can read the article.

Cheyenne South will NOT have a varsity football team in 2027.

Wonder how that'll effect the 4A silo scheduling in football next year.
 
I would think either A) allow each school one out-of-conference game (i.e. school from Colorado, Nebraska, Utah, etc), or B) move up a school from 3A (Star Valley??).
I'm guessing we'll see Star Valley or Cody move up, Big Horn move to 3A, and South come back as a 2A school.
 
I am at a loss as to how playing only sub-varsity football for a year is going to change things in the short or long term for South football. 1 year doesn't solve the numbers problem that exists at South. If I'm a freshman or sophomore at South, I'd be concerned that 1 year of sub-varsity football might turn into 2 years (and maybe even 3).
 
I am at a loss as to how playing only sub-varsity football for a year is going to change things in the short or long term for South football. 1 year doesn't solve the numbers problem that exists at South. If I'm a freshman or sophomore at South, I'd be concerned that 1 year of sub-varsity football might turn into 2 years (and maybe even 3).

Is that what is causing all this, numbers? Is it enrollment? Culture for sports? Helluva stadium to build for what has come to light.
 
I think this is a much bigger issue than Cheyenne South, and frankly, none of it is particularly surprising to me.

I officiated high school sports when I lived in Wyoming, and while I primarily officiate NCAA basketball and football these days, I'm still pretty connected to the prep scene. Having lived in Wyoming, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and now Georgia, I've watched this become an increasingly common problem across the country.

School choice, open enrollment, recruiting (both formal and informal), private schools, and now NIL have fundamentally changed the landscape of high school athletics. The days of simply playing for your neighborhood school are increasingly behind us, particularly in larger communities where families have options. Kids want to win, parents want exposure, and coaches want talent. I'm not necessarily blaming any of them for making those decisions, but the consequences are pretty predictable.

Look at Millard South in Nebraska. They have two Nebraska football commits who transferred from out of state to play their senior seasons together. Think about that for a second. We're talking about a public high school attracting established Division I prospects from across state lines. I'm not suggesting anything improper happened, but it's a pretty remarkable illustration of where high school athletics are headed.

And it's not just football. You see similar dynamics in basketball, where AAU connections, relationships between coaches, and the promise of exposure can influence where kids end up playing.

The unfortunate reality is that this creates a cycle that's incredibly difficult for struggling programs to escape. Successful programs attract talent, which produces more success, which attracts more talent. Meanwhile, schools without that established culture struggle to retain athletes, become less competitive, and eventually reach a point where they're struggling to field teams altogether.

What's particularly interesting is that national high school sports participation is actually at record levels. So it's not necessarily that kids have stopped playing sports. It's that opportunities and talent are becoming increasingly concentrated.

I'm certainly not suggesting Cheyenne South's problems are exclusively attributable to recruiting or school choice. Demographics, enrollment boundaries, resources, coaching, and institutional culture all deserve consideration. And I wouldn't accuse East or Central of improperly recruiting without evidence, though it wouldn't shock me.

But when a program has lost 64 consecutive games, it's hard to imagine that taking a year off from varsity competition solves the underlying problem.

At some point, I think we have to acknowledge that America has created an environment where high school athletics increasingly resemble college athletics, yet we still expect every public school to compete on a relatively level playing field.

That ship sailed a long time ago. Cheyenne South is hardly the first example, and I suspect it won't be the last.
 
Is that what is causing all this, numbers? Is it enrollment? Culture for sports? Helluva stadium to build for what has come to light.
Numbers is a big thing but certainly not the only thing. South typically dresses around 30 kids for varsity football. Central and East each dress more than double that. South had 8 girls on the swim team this year. Central is sending 17 to the state meet this weekend. This year was much better but in recent years South has had less than 10 kids on the cross country team. Do less kids in the South triad go out for sports? Maybe. Do some kids/parents look for ways to attend/play elsewhere to avoid getting blasted every single game/match? Yes, some. Culture definitely plays a role also. "We're just South," is a prevailing sentiment amongst many of the kids after a bad loss. In year 16 of not being particularly competitive in anything (outscored in football 531-12 on the season in 2026, JV girls basketball lost to East 42-0 last season), I don't know how it couldn't.
 
I think this is a much bigger issue than Cheyenne South, and frankly, none of it is particularly surprising to me.

I officiated high school sports when I lived in Wyoming, and while I primarily officiate NCAA basketball and football these days, I'm still pretty connected to the prep scene. Having lived in Wyoming, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and now Georgia, I've watched this become an increasingly common problem across the country.

School choice, open enrollment, recruiting (both formal and informal), private schools, and now NIL have fundamentally changed the landscape of high school athletics. The days of simply playing for your neighborhood school are increasingly behind us, particularly in larger communities where families have options. Kids want to win, parents want exposure, and coaches want talent. I'm not necessarily blaming any of them for making those decisions, but the consequences are pretty predictable.

Look at Millard South in Nebraska. They have two Nebraska football commits who transferred from out of state to play their senior seasons together. Think about that for a second. We're talking about a public high school attracting established Division I prospects from across state lines. I'm not suggesting anything improper happened, but it's a pretty remarkable illustration of where high school athletics are headed.

And it's not just football. You see similar dynamics in basketball, where AAU connections, relationships between coaches, and the promise of exposure can influence where kids end up playing.

The unfortunate reality is that this creates a cycle that's incredibly difficult for struggling programs to escape. Successful programs attract talent, which produces more success, which attracts more talent. Meanwhile, schools without that established culture struggle to retain athletes, become less competitive, and eventually reach a point where they're struggling to field teams altogether.

What's particularly interesting is that national high school sports participation is actually at record levels. So it's not necessarily that kids have stopped playing sports. It's that opportunities and talent are becoming increasingly concentrated.

I'm certainly not suggesting Cheyenne South's problems are exclusively attributable to recruiting or school choice. Demographics, enrollment boundaries, resources, coaching, and institutional culture all deserve consideration. And I wouldn't accuse East or Central of improperly recruiting without evidence, though it wouldn't shock me.

But when a program has lost 64 consecutive games, it's hard to imagine that taking a year off from varsity competition solves the underlying problem.

At some point, I think we have to acknowledge that America has created an environment where high school athletics increasingly resemble college athletics, yet we still expect every public school to compete on a relatively level playing field.

That ship sailed a long time ago. Cheyenne South is hardly the first example, and I suspect it won't be the last.
I currently officiate high school sports in Wyoming and can corroborate what you're saying here. To add to it, the biggest issue South has is triad waivers in Cheyenne. It's specifically hurting South, and only making things better for East and Central. The biggest thing the district can do to fix this is put in hard boundaries. No waivers for any reason. Period. Either send your kids to the high school in the triad or send them to private school/home school. If they want to play sports they play for the team in their triad.
 
I currently officiate high school sports in Wyoming and can corroborate what you're saying here. To add to it, the biggest issue South has is triad waivers in Cheyenne. It's specifically hurting South, and only making things better for East and Central. The biggest thing the district can do to fix this is put in hard boundaries. No waivers for any reason. Period. Either send your kids to the high school in the triad or send them to private school/home school. If they want to play sports they play for the team in their triad.
I have nothing to add to the rest of this, but I just want to give a shout-out to the WHSSA refs. I was just a JV ref at the time, before my officiating career took off. Thanks for what you do for those kids. There's not enough of us blowing the whistle to support our kids!
 
I’ll blame east and central. They are unscrupulous is their recruiting of south athletes.

South triad has the athletes to be competitive, but everyone wants to play for a winner, or something. I hate that attitude of “I’m going to stack the deck and beat everyone else easily”. Coward stuff.
 
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