Itsux2beaewe
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I’d add CSewe, they would be high on my list.
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rocket city poke
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Yes, the other board had a nice post on all of it. I really think the PAC12 is hoping the ACC falls apart and they pick up Stanford and Cal at some point plus not pay the exit fees. However that looks if it means a reverse merger AFTER the lawsuit fails and after they argue that the members that left can vote for dissolution and a multitude of other things then they will just do a reverse merger of some sort, but before they do that they will litigate and look for every loophole
Itsux2beaewe
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Any news on UNLV?
OrediggerPoke
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I can’t imagine they make any decision until they get more information on how this all shakes out.
Itsux2beaewe
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The MW needs this guy on the legal team!
Vandal fan here. With all the realignment talk, I’m curious how Wyoming fans are feeling about it. When the WAC collapsed, Idaho had to make some tough moves, so I’m wondering if that’s on your radar with everything going on now. Do you see Wyoming staying solid in the Mountain West? Maybe jumping ship or even a drop to FCS? Also, any word about poaching FCS schools like the Montanas or Dakotas to fill out the conference? Would be interesting to see how that affects regional rivalries.
Tons of talk on our board about this stuff, curious about outside perspectives
Tons of talk on our board about this stuff, curious about outside perspectives
There’s a report out there that the Penile-12 has had the strategy of getting the MW dissolved by any means necessary.
Supposedly they’re trying to get nine members to leave the MW whether it’s via a P-12 invite or other conference invite.
Then the departing members would have incentive to vote for dissolution to avoid the exit fees for both the schools themselves and the P-12.
In the end, as always, it’s all about money.
OrediggerPoke
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The report is incorrect IMO. There are 7 remaining members and votes of any 2 not to dissolve should preserve the league.
And then what….? You still need another member assuming no one else bolts.
Hey All,
Montana Fan here. I'm glad Vandal posted when he did, as I've also had some thoughts but in a bit different direction....allow me a moment, as I understand the look down with fcs schools from fbs...
Here goes...
I could (fcs eyes) see a situation where wyo and a few mw schools could get "land locked" per say (like idaho did with sun belt). If unlv and af leave, that in my mind leaves wyo as a bit outlier as the then most northern school, away from other mw remaining schools.
I could never see wyo dropping down rather, what if the mw went after a 2 division approach. If it could court say, the dakotas, Montanas, idaho, you would instantly have an 8 team north.
If you could then keep nev, unm, sjsu, hawaii, then bring in sac st, uc davis, cal poly, nm st, it would seem to align and might create a pretty formidable conference. Yes some title 9 add to sports but most of the fcs schools I mentioned have that or could add a sport (I think of wrestling at montana).
It would then seem to create natural border war type rivalry, at least with a north division.
Anyway, just was curious on your thoughts.
A couple assumptions on my part. I'm assuming that und and sdu (no dak and so dak) have the fiscal capacity to make it. Both are also highly ranked in fcs currently.
The montana schools have the fan support, upgraded facilities as well. I don't think idaho st has the capacity for the financial move, as well as the other big sky schools. The only other possible and completely possible school that might be able to make a transition would be Northern AZ, (Weber??). My guess that's a reach. In my above scenario the big sky would remain with E Wash, Idaho st, N Colo, Weber (they might be able to go),N Az. Anyway, thanks for allowing me to just chime in.
Such a mess.... AND my scenario above would probably be a big order, off the menu. When I look at it, from fcs eyes, I think most of those schools could jump, and jump to make it competitive
Additional add: sac st and davis are very close schools. Don't know if that could work but both have money and are expanding. Perhaps replace one of them with another cal up comer?
Ps, the playoffs at the fcs level are so much fun. Glad they are expanding it in fbs.
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Kudos, Griz! There’s been a lot of talk on the Idaho board about all of this, and it feels like déjà vu for us Vandals. I don’t want to lose our regional and traditional rivalries to a conference shuffle. Those matchups are what make college football exciting.
I see Wyoming as an outlier as a northern school with a tiny media market. Are you concerned about getting hung out to dry?
With schools potentially leaving the Mountain West, Wyoming might end up isolated from other teams. This could make it harder for them to get good matchups and keep fans engaged, especially if they don’t have much media coverage.
In today’s college football world, where money and TV deals matter a lot, being in a small market could hurt Wyoming’s chances of staying competitive. What do you think they can do to handle these challenges and stay relevant?
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Midwest Cowboy
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All I can say is that of course most fans are worried about the longevity of UW and its position in FBS. The changes in college football are unsustainable. As a dad of three kids that are in high school or college, I don't see any real interest in college football in them or their peer group. They just don't care. My youngest loves the Cowboys because I do. He loves Laramie and the mountains. He might go to UW. My other is at Marquette and enjoys basketball but still doesn't live or die for the Warriors...err...Golden Eagles. To me, this is all unsustainable and change will happen...maybe a long time from now. The fun of college football is being destroyed. The stand out questions for me are (1) who would ever join the PAC 2 and step into a lawsuit and (2) are the backstabbing, immoral 5 really comfortable with their decision now? All to save the name of a brand who claimed its primary goal was preserving academic and athletic excellence? They are pathetic and the PAC 2 brand stands for corruption and vile arrogance. It represents the absolute worst of college sports. In my opinion, MW did take a moral high road (despite my criticism of Nevarez). I will look forward to PAC 2's demise. Welcome to the forum. Respect for the Griz, Bobcats and Vandals but don't want to go FCS for many reasons. There certainly does seem to be opportunity for the northern schools.
Great post. You make some good points about the current state of college football. The shifting interests of younger fans and the focus on branding over tradition can be concerning. As Vandals, we went through a lot emotionally with the demise of the WAC and the drop to FCS, but ultimately, we’re happy that the games are fun again. It was time to get off the money-go-round and focus on sustainability, engaging the fans, and winning football games. We’ve been bitter rivals of Wazzu and BSU since the beginning, and I could really get on my soapbox about that, but I’ll save it for another post. I really enjoyed your post, and your questions about the PAC-2 and the motivations behind conference realignments highlight the frustrations many feel. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I saw when boise and idaho did their thing. Yes, wyo only has one school. But, at the end of the day, it's all about expense. If you're an outlier, that's a travel expense. Is it worth it? That's for you fellas to decide. If it is, then you better start courting fcs schools to move up, or, your longevity perhaps ends up like Idaho, WHO is now making waves in fcs, again (we still own the brown stein, Vandal
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ragtimejoe1
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Too hard to say what the best move is until we see if we're dealing with 7, 6, 5, or fewer? Each of those will have a different scenario.
There's also a possibility we hold with 7 and call the pac's bluff. They can't come out of pocket 200 mill and get a bad TV contract.
There's a reason for no movement today. Things are now complicated. Clarity may come in a day, a week, a month, or ??
Really is a fool's errand to predict much. If the Magnificent 7 hold, there's a lot more options than if we're down to 2, 4, or?
I guess we'll see, lol
There's also a possibility we hold with 7 and call the pac's bluff. They can't come out of pocket 200 mill and get a bad TV contract.
There's a reason for no movement today. Things are now complicated. Clarity may come in a day, a week, a month, or ??
Really is a fool's errand to predict much. If the Magnificent 7 hold, there's a lot more options than if we're down to 2, 4, or?
I guess we'll see, lol
I saw when boise and idaho did their thing. Yes, wyo only has one school. But, at the end of the day, it's all about expense. If you're an outlier, that's a travel expense. Is it worth it? That's for you fellas to decide. If it is, then you better start courting fcs schools to move up, or, your longevity perhaps ends up like Idaho, WHO is now making waves in fcs, again (we still own the brown stein, Vandal
But you don’t hold the recordI saw when boise and idaho did their thing. Yes, wyo only has one school. But, at the end of the day, it's all about expense. If you're an outlier, that's a travel expense. Is it worth it? That's for you fellas to decide. If it is, then you better start courting fcs schools to move up, or, your longevity perhaps ends up like Idaho, WHO is now making waves in fcs, again (we still own the brown stein, Vandal
Oh, I can only imagine. For those reading, the montana schools are tied. Both would have to leave together.
All I can say is that the top fcs schools aren't needy. We do make money, and sell out. Montana for example, is at 19k+ season ticket sales. So, while I'm not trying to puke on your board, dont just dismiss fcs schools.
NDSU is another example. Idaho and Miss U as we call her. Wyo... will be VERY competitive, if we go up or you go down. It's still div 1 all.
True. But how does that last 10 tasteBut you don’t hold the record
