Wyoming opens +3 vs. Hawaii

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

All this said, it's a good chance to see what Ryan Cummings can do (True Freshmen OT). He's not lacking in size at 6'5 295lbs, and his highlights show a very aggressive blocker that just attacks defenders, so I'm interested to see what he can do in this game.

Has he seen the field at all this season so far?

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

Nope...pulling his RS for this game. He's a name, though, that the coaches have mentioned quite a bit, considering he hasn't played.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I don't think the issue is thinking that UH is GOOD. We know they have played well at times. The biggest concerns is not knowing how good we are. We beat some teams that are playing well now (AF, in particular)...but we got them early in the season before they hit full stride, and had ugly games. We more than likely had a hand in causing them to have an off game, but our dismantling in Oregon and Michigan didn't leave me with a slightest inclination as to how good we really are. I think the next two games will give us that....I hope.

Thats not really fair to say...Who's to say if we played them again tomorrow we wouldn't win again in the same manner. Maybe we are better than thought....How many wins do we need before our fan base gets on board....Were 3-2. Two losses to top 8 teams isn't bad...There are very few teams in the country that would play Oregon and MSU and come away with wins. There are top 50 teams that wouldnt with either game.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Nope...pulling his RS for this game. He's a name, though, that the coaches have mentioned quite a bit, considering he hasn't played.

Damn thats risky. Hopefully the kid can play.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

I don't think the issue is thinking that UH is GOOD. We know they have played well at times. The biggest concerns is not knowing how good we are. We beat some teams that are playing well now (AF, in particular)...but we got them early in the season before they hit full stride, and had ugly games. We more than likely had a hand in causing them to have an off game, but our dismantling in Oregon and Michigan didn't leave me with a slightest inclination as to how good we really are. I think the next two games will give us that....I hope.

Thats not really fair to say...Who's to say if we played them again tomorrow we wouldn't win again in the same manner. Maybe we are better than thought....How many wins do we need before our fan base gets on board....Were 3-2. Two losses to top 8 teams isn't bad...There are very few teams in the country that would play Oregon and MSU and come away with wins. There are top 50 teams that wouldnt with either game.

You obviously read my post, as you highlighted a sentence, but I think you missed the next sentence...We will also never know who would win if we played them again. Things don't happen like that.

It's not that we lost...but were totally dismantled. Because of that, I just don't know how good we are. Please don't get me wrong. I love where we are at. I think we are tougher than I expected coming into the season. I think we're playing well, for the most part. I just don't know how good we are yet. We play a different style of ball now than what we have gotten used to seeing. I think that plays into folks not really knowing. And because of that, I can't say (without wearing my B&G glasses) that Wyo will win any particular game. I certainly hope we do! But until I see a couple more games, I can't say one way or the other. We just may be better than we all think, which I hope to be true. But we could also be worse than we think, and get exposed. No one really knows yet. Only time will tell.

BUT, I am on board with what the team is doing and will support the young men on the team, whether they win out or lose every game from here.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

Nope...pulling his RS for this game. He's a name, though, that the coaches have mentioned quite a bit, considering he hasn't played.

Damn thats risky. Hopefully the kid can play.

Let's hope. I mean, they are putting him in, rather than Battencourt, who showed up a semester early and got a jump on conditioning and training with the team.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I don't think the issue is thinking that UH is GOOD. We know they have played well at times. The biggest concerns is not knowing how good we are. We beat some teams that are playing well now (AF, in particular)...but we got them early in the season before they hit full stride, and had ugly games. We more than likely had a hand in causing them to have an off game, but our dismantling in Oregon and Michigan didn't leave me with a slightest inclination as to how good we really are. I think the next two games will give us that....I hope.

Thats not really fair to say...Who's to say if we played them again tomorrow we wouldn't win again in the same manner. Maybe we are better than thought....How many wins do we need before our fan base gets on board....Were 3-2. Two losses to top 8 teams isn't bad...There are very few teams in the country that would play Oregon and MSU and come away with wins. There are top 50 teams that wouldnt with either game.

It's not that we lost...but were totally dismantled. Because of that, I just don't know how good we are. Please don't get me wrong. I love where we are at. I think we are tougher than I expected coming into the season. I think we're playing well, for the most part. I just don't know how good we are yet. We play a different style of ball now than what we have gotten used to seeing. I think that plays into folks not really knowing. And because of that, I can't say (without wearing my B&G glasses) that Wyo will win any particular game. I certainly hope we do! But until I see a couple more games, I can't say one way or the other.

Thats fair to say I suppose.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Nope...pulling his RS for this game. He's a name, though, that the coaches have mentioned quite a bit, considering he hasn't played.

Damn thats risky. Hopefully the kid can play.

Well the coaching staff have really liked what they've seen from him thus far. And with the team already paper thin at o-line, they pretty much had to take a true freshmen, and it seems like he was the most ready. At least he'll have a lot of experience for down the road, and he is not lacking in size, which can be a problem for freshmen linemen, so here's to wishing him a great game!

 

[WYCowboy]

Nope...pulling his RS for this game. He's a name, though, that the coaches have mentioned quite a bit, considering he hasn't played.

Damn thats risky. Hopefully the kid can play.

Well the coaching staff have really liked what they've seen from him thus far. And with the team already paper thin at o-line, they pretty much had to take a true freshmen, and it seems like he was the most ready. At least he'll have a lot of experience for down the road, and he is not lacking in size, which can be a problem for freshmen linemen, so here's to wishing him a great game!

The coaching staff didn't have much choice about playing a freshman, and I believe they are in a much better position of knowing the player's abilities than we are.

 

[djm19]

Simple terms:

Our wins HAVE NOT been pretty. That is not debatable. I am more behind this team than anyone else, financially included. I have seen improvements, but our three wins HAVE NOT BEEN PRETTY. Therefore, I can still be behind the team, yet still have opinion on where I feel the team is skill wise.

Not doom and gloom at all. I think our future is promising. But to sit here and crown us as a team that can look past a poor Hawaii team is very naïve.

 

[joshvanklomp]

It's not that we lost...but were totally dismantled.

MSU was totally dismantled by Oregon too in the second half of their game. Good teams do that to other teams.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Simple terms:

Our wins HAVE NOT been pretty. That is not debatable. I am more behind this team than anyone else, financially included. I have seen improvements, but our three wins HAVE NOT BEEN PRETTY. Therefore, I can still be behind the team, yet still have opinion on where I feel the team is skill wise.

Not doom and gloom at all. I think our future is promising. But to sit here and crown us as a team that can look past a poor Hawaii team is very naïve.

I for one never said look past Hawaii but I am also not going to sit here and say that because we've won three ugly games (and beat by two top 8 teams) that we are in for a loss on the islands. Hawaii has done nothing to show me that we are out matched. They are not better than any of the teams we've played so far. Our skill level is high enough to beat them and I am expecting a victory saturday night.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Simple terms:

Our wins HAVE NOT been pretty. That is not debatable. I am more behind this team than anyone else, financially included. I have seen improvements, but our three wins HAVE NOT BEEN PRETTY. Therefore, I can still be behind the team, yet still have opinion on where I feel the team is skill wise.

Not doom and gloom at all. I think our future is promising. But to sit here and crown us as a team that can look past a poor Hawaii team is very naïve.

The coaching staff did say at the beginning of the season that we would be playing games like this.

 

[JimmyDimes]

Simple terms:

Our wins HAVE NOT been pretty. That is not debatable. I am more behind this team than anyone else, financially included. I have seen improvements, but our three wins HAVE NOT BEEN PRETTY. Therefore, I can still be behind the team, yet still have opinion on where I feel the team is skill wise.

Not doom and gloom at all. I think our future is promising. But to sit here and crown us as a team that can look past a poor Hawaii team is very naïve.

The coaching staff did say at the beginning of the season that we would be playing games like this.

I think we've heard the same from a few NDSU fans. Bohl's teams will often win in ugly fashion.

 

[djm19]

As mentioned, I could see the Pokes finally getting a complete game together and rolling Hawaii if focused. This is a must win for the Cowboys if they want to get to a bowl game.

Thus far, this record is exactly what many fans expected. Furthermore, after Sunday, many of us are EXPECTING this team to be 4-2. I would just like to see a blowout win for once. Like Air Force 2013 kind.

 

[J-Rod]

Color me surprised that the spread is getting larger. Norm Chow's team's have a special ability at losing games, even ones it clearly feels like they should win (Washington for example). Wyoming's best player will be Norm Chow, he'll screw this up...I guarantee it. I can't see him beating a coach like Bohl at anything.

 

[djm19]

I love J-Rod's undeviating and relentless disdain for Hawaii's QB. Ha ha

 

[J-Rod]

I love J-Rod's undeviating and relentless disdain for Hawaii's QB. Ha ha

lol I have seen Woolsey play, and watched Norm coach. 5 wins in 3 years is all the info I need.

 

[WYO_Fan_inPA]

I respect your opinion, JD.

I'm concerned the offense is ranked in the 90 range. Seems like we're having a tough time scoring points this season. Thus I do not believe 17-20 points is going to win this game. Offense is going to have to move the ball and put up 3 or 7 more frequently than what we've observed. I have a feeling UH's offense is going to bring it.

Going back to the line, as J-Rod pointed out, 3 points are usually for "home field". Take away the 3 points, and Vegas is calling it a push. Do you think UH and UW are two evenly matched teams? I'm not so sure. WYO has been tested by playing two teams ranked in the top ten (at the time of the games). Hawai'i hasn't played a difficult opponent since, I'd say, week 2. Even though we were blown out on both occasions, the kids got to know what it takes to compete at a high level. Overall, I'd say we have a slight edge, and are a slightly superior team. But I guess we'll have to see on the field.

With Iosefa out and Woolsey under center, the 'Bows don't have much to "bring". That being said, their D is for real and the way Kirk's playing and the situation with our o-line, it could be ugly, offensively.

In short, I think both offenses are going to struggle and just don't see this game going over 40 total. Should be a 12-9, or 17-10 kind of game. Looking at potential determining factors- we probably have the better QB, but I don't think he'll get much opportunity to prove it. I think the big difference might be on the sidelines- Chow is not in the same league as Bohl, IMO...

Which reiterates that scoring 17-20 points per game is not and will not secure a win.

If UW will struggle to move the ball and score, there will be added pressure on defense to hold the fort down. That might work for 2-3 quarters. I don't see it holding if the offense keeps going three-and-out and forces the D to be on the field for 40+ minutes.

Even though the offense is struggling I think they've got to find a way to get a spark and move the ball. UH is not a Power Five school. We can compete against those. I think it comes down to execution. Not putting ourselves into precarious situations - 3rd & long, poor starting field position, turnovers, etc. - is going to be a key.

 

[joshvanklomp]

If UW will struggle to move the ball and score, there will be added pressure on defense to hold the fort down. That might work for 2-3 quarters. I don't see it holding if the offense keeps going three-and-out and forces the D to be on the field for 40+ minutes.

That hasn't happened yet, and I don't ever see it happening. Not even close. The longest the defense has been on the field is for 35:31, last week.