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Why wyoming should go D1 AA

Danmully said:
As far as driving to games, We play two FCS teams a year anyways, and new Mexico and Unlv aren't much better. The other games we just get ass raped anyways, so i assume you dont attend very many games as is. As far as the fanbase evaporating, im sure there will be some backlash, but as someone else said the attendance at Montana football games is higher than Wyoming's. Anyways it doesnt matter either way to me. They are never going to drop down its just some food for thought.
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wyo usually does not play 2 fcs teams a year. This was a weird year due to BYU leaving late making it very difficult to schedule a home game given the short notice. btw SUU and UNC are both in the Big Sky. Montana is the exception to the rule. check the attendance of the other Big Sky teams. Some are under 8,000

New mexico has been a decent team historically. One bad coach though can kill any of us
 
billings said:
Danmully said:
wyo usually does not play 2 fcs teams a year sorry. This was a weird year due to BYU leaving late making it very difficult to schedule a home game given the short notice.

Montana is the exception to the rule. check the attendance of the other Big Sky teams. Some are under 8,000

New mexico has been a decent team historically. One bad coach though can kill any of us
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This I all know, I was just trying to make the point that Wyoming plays some unexciting opponets.
 
Danmully said:
billings said:
Danmully said:
wyo usually does not play 2 fcs teams a year sorry. This was a weird year due to BYU leaving late making it very difficult to schedule a home game given the short notice.

Montana is the exception to the rule. check the attendance of the other Big Sky teams. Some are under 8,000

New mexico has been a decent team historically. One bad coach though can kill any of us
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This I all know, I was just trying to make the point that Wyoming plays some unexciting opponets.
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agree on that but I see no point is making that worse
 
billings said:
total Playoff attendance is also a joke in the FCS other than 3-4 schools and the NCAA takes all the money to fund the playoffs. Montana barely breaks even with home playoff games.
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If it wasn't for teams like Montana, Montana State, North Dakota State, Appalachian State, and a small handful of others, FCS playoff attendances would be much less than 10000. I think Villanova last year (I think) drew in the neighborhood of 1500 to a playoff game. Yes, only two 0s on that. FCS playoffs have 4 weeks of playoffs, a "play-in" weekend where the lower seeds (8 teams) to get into the rest of the tournament. From there the 16 team playoff starts, bids win the right to host (teams like Montana, AppSt, etc always host 1st round since their bids always dwarf other teams) a regional type playoff. Then from there higher seed gets the game at home. Montana doesn't make squat off of playoff games, most goes to the NCAA to subsidize the playoffs, so usually 2-3 teams finance the whole playoff for everyone else. The NCAA hates it when Montana, AppSt, and NDSU don't make the playoffs or advance far because it's more financial burden on them.
 
yes we have sucked for the past decade in both revenue sports....

So you're going to tell me as a Wyoming fan, "Hey guys, we have sucked for the last 15 years, it's obvious we don't belong here at this level where we have always played for the 100 years of our existence (and had success). That's not right anymore. Instead, get ready for our new home schedule of Montana St., Idaho St., UNC, Weber St., and SUU. For road games we will now do body bag payouts at BYU and Utah. As well as the complete death of our BBall program."

How many Wyoming fans are going to say, "sign me up for season tickets?" You're telling me that's not a bigger risk to our program? If that happens we might as well knock off the upper east and west side of the stadium while we are at and destroy the AA to save on maintenance and move all sports to the UNIWYO Sports Complex.

It's a joke that this topic always gets dragged up after a big loss. Yes the BCS system is rigged, dirty and ugly. It sucks. If you prefer the supposed purity of FCS football (although how pure is that really if you have teams bidding for playoff home games, it sounds like the NIT) then go root for an FCS team. I don't want to root for an FCS team.
 
Well actually the split of Division 1 football occurred in 1978. So really we have only been D1 A for 33 years. Prior to that there was only D1, there was no subdivision. So for atleast half of the history of D1 A we have been pretty bad. Also during those last 100 years we have shared conferences with both Montana, Montana state and No Co. So maybe the Mistake was in 1978
 
Here is a site on why the split happened. Interesting stuff, alot of similiarity to what is going on today. Interesting stuff. Not 100 % on the accuracy but looks about right.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=25700
 
yes we have sucked for the past decade in both revenue sports....

So you're going to tell me as a Wyoming fan, "Hey guys, we have sucked for the last 15 years, it's obvious we don't belong here at this level where we have always played for the 100 years of our existence (and had success). That's not right anymore. Instead, get ready for our new home schedule of Montana St., Idaho St., UNC, Weber St., and SUU. For road games we will now do body bag payouts at BYU and Utah. As well as the complete death of our BBall program."

How many Wyoming fans are going to say, "sign me up for season tickets?" You're telling me that's not a bigger risk to our program? If that happens we might as well knock off the upper east and west side of the stadium while we are at and destroy the AA to save on maintenance and move all sports to the UNIWYO Sports Complex.

It's a joke that this topic always gets dragged up after a big loss. Yes the BCS system is rigged, dirty and ugly. It sucks. If you prefer the supposed purity of FCS football (although how pure is that really if you have teams bidding for playoff home games, it sounds like the NIT) then go root for an FCS team. I don't want to root for an FCS team.
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Yes I believe continued sucking is the biggest threat our athletic programs. Look what Heath did to the bball program. Look at what Vic did to our football program. The more years we suck the longer it takes to come back and the more damage is caused to the program ( we wonder why their are douche-bag students that were husker and boise st gear, it is because of the continued sucking). I don't think anyone can make a prediction on how much support would be lost from going down a division, and their are no doubts that certain fcs teams in or region get just as much (or more) fan support as we do.

For the record I don't believe we should go down a division. However I believe we need to re-evaluate how we are running our sports programs. Some type of change needs to be made to make our teams competive, and I don't claim to know the answers. Although I see how Boise built their program and they didn't do it by playing highly ranked teams before they were established as a perennial bowl team.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with discussing these type of topics.
 
I think there was a few blowouts this last weekend. I don't utah is thinking about coming back to the MW if they get blown out. It is still year 3 in a rebuilding phase and we've struck out on building the program as of late. This is a dumb idea.
 
WYCowboy said:
COS Cowboy said:
Danmully said:
Not to mention there is some inaccuracies in that we didnt win conference in 1996, and they compare attendance of bowl games against only the FCS championship game not the total playoffs of the FCS
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Agreed. I know I'll drop my season tickets and my CJC donations if they drop.
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Same here.
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+1
 
Danmully said:
As far as driving to games, We play two FCS teams a year anyways, and new Mexico and Unlv aren't much better. The other games we just get ass raped anyways, so i assume you dont attend very many games as is. As far as the fanbase evaporating, im sure there will be some backlash, but as someone else said the attendance at Montana football games is higher than Wyoming's. Anyways it doesnt matter either way to me. They are never going to drop down its just some food for thought.
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this post makes it sound like you've only been following pokes football since the middle of last season...
 
calpoke25 said:
Instead, get ready for our new home schedule of Montana St.(L), Idaho St. (W), UNC (W), Weber St. (toss-up), and SUU (L).
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At least Wyoming might go 3-2 during that stretch haha :lol:
 
Such a quitter's mentality. So typical of Wyoming. It's why I left. I couldn't take the defeatism anymore. If we drop, I'm done. No donations to CJC, no nothing.
 
WYCowboy said:
COS Cowboy said:
Danmully said:
Not to mention there is some inaccuracies in that we didnt win conference in 1996, and they compare attendance of bowl games against only the FCS championship game not the total playoffs of the FCS
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Agreed. I know I'll drop my season tickets and my CJC donations if they drop.
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Same here.
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Me too.
 
cheypoke said:
Brew_Poke said:
WYCowboy said:
COS Cowboy said:
Danmully said:
Not to mention there is some inaccuracies in that we didnt win conference in 1996, and they compare attendance of bowl games against only the FCS championship game not the total playoffs of the FCS
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Agreed. I know I'll drop my season tickets and my CJC donations if they drop.
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Same here.
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Me too.
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Ditto
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Me as well.
 
We haven't had a decent year since the late 90's. Its ok though, in the late 90's we were enjoying success on the field but refused to put any money into the programs. We certainly built alot of infrstructure in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's though.

We quit building, had up years, had down years, had some great success, quit investing into the programs, hired Koennig on and paid the price for being cheap.

Look at TCU - they have a slightly smaller college than us, but yet are enjoying some major changes in their athletics. New 100 million dollar stadium, new BCS conference, more applications for enrollment, very high paid coach (close to 3 million a year).

Actually, they had records that looked like ours much up until the time they hired on Franchione, and once Patterson took over, they really took off.

I don't think we need to drop a division. We just need some people that are willing to get the job done. Hopefully Christensen figures this out soon.
 
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