Who thinks Burman is any good?

[OrediggerPoke]

Wrong. Facilities help attract recruits and coaches.

While I personally would much rather my money go to facilities than players, it is entirely clear that money attracts recruits and coaches. If everything else is equal, maybe nice dining facilities and locker rooms tip the scale. But recruits are going where they stand to make the most money plain and simple.

 

[LanderPoke]

Wrong. Facilities help attract recruits and coaches.

Isn’t it all for naught if we still suck? I believe coaching matters more than anything else , by far. We should be spending more on coaching salaries, imo. Of course that means nothing if you have an idiot like Burman hiring those coaches. And he is an idiot surrounded by idiots that accept mediocrity

 

[flyfishwyo]

While I personally would much rather my money go to facilities than players, it is entirely clear that money attracts recruits and coaches. If everything else is equal, maybe nice dining facilities and locker rooms tip the scale. But recruits are going where they stand to make the most money plain and simple.

I agree. Moving forward, I think it's time to shift spending away from facilities and extra staff and into NIL. But I don't regret having nice facilities now. Some of our competition won't ever catch up.

 

[flyfishwyo]

Isn’t it all for naught if we still suck? I believe coaching matters more than anything else , by far. We should be spending more on coaching salaries, imo. Of course that means nothing if you have an idiot like Burman hiring those coaches. And he is an idiot surrounded by idiots that accept mediocrity

So, quality facilities=suck? Also, does coaching salaries=winning? There's the black and white thinking I was talking about.

 

[LanderPoke]

So, quality facilities=suck? Also, does coaching salaries=winning? There's the black and white thinking I was talking about.

No, it indicates we are probably mis allocating resources. And yes, I believe higher coaching salaries and recruiting budgets are correlated with more winning.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Wrong. Facilities help attract recruits and coaches.

Winning attracts recruits and coaches.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I agree. Moving forward, I think it's time to shift spending away from facilities and extra staff and into NIL. But I don't regret having nice facilities now. Some of our competition won't ever catch up.

Being ahead of our future competition of the UTEP’s, SJSU’s and Nevada’s of the world…is being the world’s tallest midget really something worth boasting about?

When Burman started in his role, Utah, BYU and TCU were our competition. Have you seen their facilities?

I just don’t see a lot to be excited about where our athletic programs have ended up during Burman’s tenure. I’m not even sure it is worth the continued investment at this point.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

What conference situation did we miss out on? The new pac? We play most of those teams now and it's not roses. Who are you gong to miss playing? usu? suds? fresneck? usu? Maybe just me, but I honestly don't care. Now, if you're talking about missing out on big12, then yeah, we really botched it. Since bsu didn't get into the big12, I'm not sure there is a scenario where that would have been possible. Like bowl games, there aren't many great options.

Lack of winning culture (and yes obviously winning) is TB's failure and why we should have changed years ago.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

What conference situation did we miss out on? The new pac? We play most of those teams now and it's not roses. Who are you gong to miss playing? usu? suds? fresneck? usu? Maybe just me, but I honestly don't care. Now, if you're talking about missing out on big12, then yeah, we really botched it. Since bsu didn't get into the big12, I'm not sure there is a scenario where that would have been possible. Like bowl games, there aren't many great options.

Lack of winning culture (and yes obviously winning) is TB's failure and why we should have changed years ago.

The PAC, as dumb as it was to pay the exit fees for that, is miles better than than our new garbage conference. Lack of a winning culture is the direct reason those schools are no longer our conference peers.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

The PAC, as dumb as it was to pay the exit fees for that, is miles better than than our new garbage conference. Lack of a winning culture is the direct reason those schools are no longer our conference peers.

I just honestly don't think it will matter going forward. g6 is g6.

 

[flyfishwyo]

Winning attracts recruits and coaches.

No, it indicates we are probably mis allocating resources. And yes, I believe higher coaching salaries and recruiting budgets are correlated with more winning.

No doubt we're misallocating $. But the correct answer isn't 0% on facilities and 100% on coaching salaries/player recruiting.

 

[flyfishwyo]

Winning attracts recruits and coaches.

I disagree. It's way more complicated than that. It's some mixture of $, school, geography, the coaching staff, winning, and a bunch of other stuff like where the kid's girlfriend is.

 

[flyfishwyo]

Being ahead of our future competition of the UTEP’s, SJSU’s and Nevada’s of the world…is being the world’s tallest midget really something worth boasting about?

When Burman started in his role, Utah, BYU and TCU were our competition. Have you seen their facilities?

I just don’t see a lot to be excited about where our athletic programs have ended up during Burman’s tenure. I’m not even sure it is worth the continued investment at this point.

The old world of college football is dead. I hate it, but it is. So, being ahead of Nevada, UTEP, and SJSU is good. I'd like to see Tom gone now so we can walk into the new conference with a clean slate. I have no confidence he can win championships in the new league.

Utah, BYU, and TCU were already ahead of us when Burman got here. He didn't close the gap in facilities, and he didn't beat them.