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Vaccine Requirements are Getting Out of Hand

The mindless Borg won't yield. Ridiculous and puts our country at risk by taking a political stance. No wonder recruiting is struggling.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/03/01/biden-official-natural-immunity-is-not-something-we-believe-in-for-covid-19/
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
The mindless Borg won't yield. Ridiculous and puts our country at risk by taking a political stance. No wonder recruiting is struggling.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/03/01/biden-official-natural-immunity-is-not-something-we-believe-in-for-covid-19/
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Pure anti-science malarky. Why do they want people to get vaccinated sooooo bad. It's disturbing.
 
LanderPoke said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
The mindless Borg won't yield. Ridiculous and puts our country at risk by taking a political stance. No wonder recruiting is struggling.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/03/01/biden-official-natural-immunity-is-not-something-we-believe-in-for-covid-19/
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Pure anti-science malarky. Why do they want people to get vaccinated sooooo bad. It's disturbing.
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Follow the money. Woody was right.
https://www.benzinga.com/general/biotech/23/03/31194439/how-much-did-us-government-spend-on-mrna-vaccine-technology-before-and-during-the-pandemic-the-nu?utm_campaign=partner_feed&utm_source=SmartNews&utm_medium=partner_feed&utm_content=site

Jumping prices to $150/dose :eek:

Amazing people are allowing this nonsense. Look at the mindless bots in this thread. Can't handle the fact they were duped into transferring billions to big pharma and politicians. Now they are setting the stage to keep the cash cow going. They can't mandate it so they have to jump prices.
 
Though he commissioned a bias study to bury the lab leak theory, even the liberal demigod, fauci, changed his tune to unknown origin https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-anderson-cooper-flat-out-asks-fauci-are-the-fbi-and-energy-dept-right-about-the-lab-leak/.

Boy, some people sure look like fools. In their defense, it must be hard to have been duped so badly while defending it so adamantly.
 
It's crazy how the leftist media will pump you full of BS. Another prime example is the Nord Stream Pipeline being destroyed by a "pro-/Ukraine" group and not the Biden Administration. I can't imagine being gullible enough to believe what the press tell us
https://twitter.com/VidmaxMedia/status/1631178899458605056?s=20
 
https://www.judicialwatch.org/coronavirus-mutants/

It will be interesting to see where this goes.

I can't believe vaccine pumpers and biden bots really believed that wet market bs.
 
NIH Statement:
"Importantly, because of NIH-funded research to understand coronaviruses, the U.S. was able to move swiftly to develop vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 and save lives."

Hmmm....all they needed was an outbreak. Man, that is coincidence.
 
Well, the cat is out of the bag. Harris-Biden admin pushed censorship even of satire let alone contradicting (to their narrative) facts surrounding covid.

Censorship of free speech. Placing candidates in elections circumventing the primary system. Hiding health status of a clearly old man suffering from dementia who was elected as president while others pulled strings to ruin the country. Truly unbelievable that you guys support and vote for this 💩.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Well, the cat is out of the bag. Harris-Biden admin pushed censorship even of satire let alone contradicting (to their narrative) facts surrounding covid.

Censorship of free speech. Placing candidates in elections circumventing the primary system. Hiding health status of a clearly old man suffering from dementia who was elected as president while others pulled strings to ruin the country. Truly unbelievable that you guys support and vote for this 💩.
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Hence why I voted for Trump in 2020. I aint THAT stupid.:rolleyes:
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Well, the cat is out of the bag. Harris-Biden admin pushed censorship even of satire let alone contradicting (to their narrative) facts surrounding covid.

Censorship of free speech. Placing candidates in elections circumventing the primary system. Hiding health status of a clearly old man suffering from dementia who was elected as president while others pulled strings to ruin the country. Truly unbelievable that you guys support and vote for this 💩.
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The surprise isn’t the censorship - the surprise is that the moron “Suck”erberg released the letter…..unsolicited. That’s weird…..
 
I just read the highlights. Based on those bullet points alone, it is very apparent this is a puff piece for Trump. Praising him for his travel restrictions and the creation of a vaccine, while simultaneously blaming the Biden administration for rushing vaccine approval (something that happened over a month before Biden even took office).

I try to look at medical information through as neutral a lens as possible. And I am sure there are plenty of things that both administrations did that could have been done differently. But anyone that reads the highlights and can't see that it is clearly skewed towards 1 party, needs to work on their reading comprehension skills.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
I just read the highlights. Based on those bullet points alone, it is very apparent this is a puff piece for Trump. Praising him for his travel restrictions and the creation of a vaccine, while simultaneously blaming the Biden administration for rushing vaccine approval (something that happened over a month before Biden even took office).

I try to look at medical information through as neutral a lens as possible. And I am sure there are plenty of things that both administrations did that could have been done differently. But anyone that reads the highlights and can't see that it is clearly skewed towards 1 party, needs to work on their reading comprehension skills.
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Fluff for Trump? It was 2 years and released after he was elected.

Everything out of DC has political angles. The origin theory is not just a right wing conspiracy; if I'm not mistaken, even the CDC, or at least the director is on board with that. The other is the social distancing another mitigation strategies that were obviously irrelevant while the closures were overly devastating. Neither is the slimy link between NIH, Fauci, and EcoHealth Alliance.

What it doesn't criticize enough was Trump's idea to absolve health companies of all liability for the vaccine or Trump's bright idea to pay people to stay home.

The COVID narrative is continuing to unravel year after year. In another decade's time, we'll look at it as one of the biggest debacles in US history largely driven by Democrats.
 
Even the liberal censorship of free speech has been revealed and is being addressed. Meta dropping fact checkers admitting it went too far largely due to political pressure.
 
This vaccine debate really boils down to personal health vs. public health.

Most of the time, vaccines are beneficial for both personal and public health. Take, for example, the Tdap vaccine - the risks of the vaccine itself are low (although not zero) while the risks of suffering from pertussis/tetanus/diptheria are high. It makes sense for almost every single person to get the Tdap vaccine. It has significant benefit to both the person and the public while carrying very low risk. As such, you hear very little arguing regarding the Tdap vaccine.

The trouble begins when you look at vaccines that are primarily beneficial for the public, but may not be particularly beneficial for given individuals. This is where the COVID vaccine falls. For the average healthy 30 year old, you can definitely argue that the benefits of the COVID vaccine are pretty minimal for this person and there are potential/real risks, especially with a vaccine we have limited data on. However, from a public health perspective, the more people who acquire a vaccine, and it's resulting immunity, the better it is for the general population.

This results in people arguing both sides of the isle.

Person 1: "I'm healthy and COVID poses very little risk to me, and it has been documented as causing cardiac issues. Therefore, I'm not taking it". = Personal Health Argument

Person 2: "Everyone, including younger healthy people, should get the vaccine because it will lessen the amount of COVID virus in the community, thereby protecting our older more vulnerable populations. Therefore, I'm getting the COVID vaccine". = Public Health Argument

Both of these people are right. They are just making an argument from different angles. Unfortunately, this realization does not help resolve the argument. But it should at least make each side realize that the opposite side is not composed of complete idiots as they might be prone to claim.
 
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