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Cockhill works at a bank in Montana now.
Wyokie said:
Probably not.. it's a long standing bank in Helena that his mother is the manager of. I doubt it's going anywhere.
Looks like my gut feeling was correct. If they really were neck and neck this far into camp, I agree with Glenn and Cole's decision to choose Dax. I really like Sween, and was in the same posiiton 2 years ago rooting for him to beat out Doss. The reason being it felt like we had seen Doss reach his ceiling, and unfortunetly we may have seen that with Sween. And the ceiling is not high enough.
After watching Dax in interviews on the Mtn, he seems a little "lax" in personality. Hetrick and Stutziem (Sp?) seemed like the jokers who would be destined for back up roles through out their careers, but Sween really seemed to act the part. Dax was more serious then the jokers, but seemed a little more cocky than Sween. Maybe thats what we need at the position at this point, who knows. Also, just like Sween and virtually every QB this team has had since the Bramlets, Crum has an odd release. The arc he puts on his throws seem a little better then Sweens, but I'm still not sure he has that "rocket" arm. People claimed Sween had it, but I sure never saw it. Every long ball he threw had to thrown as high as it would travel far.
All that said, In our first 3 games, Crum simply needs to manage. These are 3 games that based on the opponents and them being at the War, are easily winable with our Defense and running game. Crum simply needs to manage the offense and make a few throws here and there. But by week 4 W/ BYU, he needs to be that QB Sween never was. Here's to hoping...
After watching Dax in interviews on the Mtn, he seems a little "lax" in personality. Hetrick and Stutziem (Sp?) seemed like the jokers who would be destined for back up roles through out their careers, but Sween really seemed to act the part. Dax was more serious then the jokers, but seemed a little more cocky than Sween. Maybe thats what we need at the position at this point, who knows. Also, just like Sween and virtually every QB this team has had since the Bramlets, Crum has an odd release. The arc he puts on his throws seem a little better then Sweens, but I'm still not sure he has that "rocket" arm. People claimed Sween had it, but I sure never saw it. Every long ball he threw had to thrown as high as it would travel far.
All that said, In our first 3 games, Crum simply needs to manage. These are 3 games that based on the opponents and them being at the War, are easily winable with our Defense and running game. Crum simply needs to manage the offense and make a few throws here and there. But by week 4 W/ BYU, he needs to be that QB Sween never was. Here's to hoping...
Fullback41
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7 wins should be very do-able for this hungry team. I hate to look ahead because the most important game is the next one, but looking at the depth chart this team (which should be better in 2008 than 2007) should be even better in 2009 than 2008. We will have 9 returning starters on Defense and 8 returning starters on Offense. Just food for thought way down the road. STEP 1 BEAT OHIO BOBCATS.
Here is a Laramie Boomerang report on the scrimmage held on 8-20:
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University of Wyoming running back, Devin Moore looks to see if he broke the plane of the goal line during a scrimmage at War Memorial Stadium, Wednesday. Ben Woloszyn/Boomerang photographer
But not much
By Bob Hammond Boomerang Sports Editor
University of Wyoming running back Devin Moore figures to be one of the top running backs in the Mountain West Conference this season.
The fleet-footed Cowboy senior can juke, shake and bake, stop on a dime and change directions with the best of them.
But the game of football is not all about making people miss … it’s about getting the yardage needed to keep the sticks moving.
Since Wyoming’s new offense is going to feature a power running game this year and Moore is the centerpiece, sixth-year Cowboy coach Joe Glenn threw down the gauntlet in challenging Moore to become more effective running inside following the team’s second and final scrimmage of the preseason Wednesday afternoon in War Memorial Stadium.
Moore finished the session with 38 yards, including a long of 14, in 11 carries. He scored one of the two touchdowns in the 70-minute, 74-play scrimmage.
“We want to be more of a downhill-running football team than we have been,” Glenn said. “I have to see the tape, but when you block power, you have to put it up in there. You have to hit it up in there and it has to be a street fight. I mean we have to hit in there with elbows, ivory and mouthpiece fit on down with knees up high. We are going to go get four (yards). If we can’t do that, it’s going to be a long season.
“We just need to run tougher,” Glenn continued. “Devin is the guy and he knows that. He wants to hit a home run every time he gets up to the plate, and that’s just not going to happen. So, with that said, I want us to run downhill, and run hardnosed in there. That’s a play that our linemen are hanging their hats on. It is something we need to get better at. If we don’t run downhill and put it up in there, than I’m worried.”
The Wyoming running game produced only 51 net yards in 28 carries.
While the defense remained stout and season ready, the Cowboy offense showed some improvement over the previous week’s scrimmage, but still has a ways to go.
Wyoming’s four quarterbacks combined to complete 17 of 29 passes for 185 yards, including a 46-yard bomb from redshirt freshman Chris Stutzriem to sophomore wide receiver Travis Burkhalter.
“We don’t think of it as a monkey (off our backs) or anything like that,” Stutzriem said of his TD toss. “We have been going against these guys for about 30 practices now, and I know what (outside linebacker) Weston Johnson is doing before he does. It’s one of those things that they have seen us for so long, and we have seen them for so long, and they are a great defense.
“The O-line did a great job with protection on that play. I just stepped up, and it wasn’t really that open honestly, it was third-and-long, I was trying to make a play and it came out on our end of the ball,” Stutzriem added.
The offense did score a pair of touchdowns, which was two more than it got last week.
The 46-yard pass from Stutzriem to Burkhalter culminated a 70-yard, eight-play drive, while Moore’s two-yard run topped off a 50-yard drive in six plays.
The Cowboys had only one turnover (a 39-yard interception return by senior safety Michael Ray off a pass by Karsten Sween in which the receiver slipped down) as compared to four last week. It also gave up only sacks, two of which came off the edge, as compared to nine in the first scrimmage.
“It was better than last week, but we still have a ways to go,” UW offensive coordinator Bob Cole said. “Obviously, we would have liked to see the first unit struggle as much as it did early on. We also had a couple of mistakes that brought touchdowns back, but our guys have bought into what we are doing. They know we are a good football team. We just need to hang in there and we’ll be fine.”
“I didn’t like the penalties — guys jumping offsides and holding penalties that called back a touchdown and another that took back a 35-yard run. That’s devastating to your offense. You have to play within the rules of the game,” Glenn added.
“Those things hurt and at the start of the year when you are in a new offense, you can’t take a five-yard penalty. Instead of 3rd-and-4 it’s 3rd-and-9, and that’s a huge difference. We need to clean up those penalties.”
Although the defense continued to be dominant, senior inside linebacker Ward Dobbs said the play on his side of the ball wasn’t all that inspiring in the second scrimmage.”
“I think you can tell that we are all getting tired of playing against each other. We’re ready to move on to Ohio,” said Dobbs, who had five tackles, including two for losses said. “The intensity wasn’t there because we have been playing with each other so long. It’s time to move on with our game plan against Ohio. The best thing about today is we didn’t get anybody hurt.”
One of the more dominant defenders in yesterday’s scrimmage was redshirt freshman linebacker Brian Hendricks, who finished with 12 tackles.
The Cowboys now have a little more than a week to get ready for the season opener a week from Saturday against Ohio in War Memorial Stadium.
Bob Hammond’s e-mail address is [email protected]
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University of Wyoming running back, Devin Moore looks to see if he broke the plane of the goal line during a scrimmage at War Memorial Stadium, Wednesday. Ben Woloszyn/Boomerang photographer
But not much
By Bob Hammond Boomerang Sports Editor
University of Wyoming running back Devin Moore figures to be one of the top running backs in the Mountain West Conference this season.
The fleet-footed Cowboy senior can juke, shake and bake, stop on a dime and change directions with the best of them.
But the game of football is not all about making people miss … it’s about getting the yardage needed to keep the sticks moving.
Since Wyoming’s new offense is going to feature a power running game this year and Moore is the centerpiece, sixth-year Cowboy coach Joe Glenn threw down the gauntlet in challenging Moore to become more effective running inside following the team’s second and final scrimmage of the preseason Wednesday afternoon in War Memorial Stadium.
Moore finished the session with 38 yards, including a long of 14, in 11 carries. He scored one of the two touchdowns in the 70-minute, 74-play scrimmage.
“We want to be more of a downhill-running football team than we have been,” Glenn said. “I have to see the tape, but when you block power, you have to put it up in there. You have to hit it up in there and it has to be a street fight. I mean we have to hit in there with elbows, ivory and mouthpiece fit on down with knees up high. We are going to go get four (yards). If we can’t do that, it’s going to be a long season.
“We just need to run tougher,” Glenn continued. “Devin is the guy and he knows that. He wants to hit a home run every time he gets up to the plate, and that’s just not going to happen. So, with that said, I want us to run downhill, and run hardnosed in there. That’s a play that our linemen are hanging their hats on. It is something we need to get better at. If we don’t run downhill and put it up in there, than I’m worried.”
The Wyoming running game produced only 51 net yards in 28 carries.
While the defense remained stout and season ready, the Cowboy offense showed some improvement over the previous week’s scrimmage, but still has a ways to go.
Wyoming’s four quarterbacks combined to complete 17 of 29 passes for 185 yards, including a 46-yard bomb from redshirt freshman Chris Stutzriem to sophomore wide receiver Travis Burkhalter.
“We don’t think of it as a monkey (off our backs) or anything like that,” Stutzriem said of his TD toss. “We have been going against these guys for about 30 practices now, and I know what (outside linebacker) Weston Johnson is doing before he does. It’s one of those things that they have seen us for so long, and we have seen them for so long, and they are a great defense.
“The O-line did a great job with protection on that play. I just stepped up, and it wasn’t really that open honestly, it was third-and-long, I was trying to make a play and it came out on our end of the ball,” Stutzriem added.
The offense did score a pair of touchdowns, which was two more than it got last week.
The 46-yard pass from Stutzriem to Burkhalter culminated a 70-yard, eight-play drive, while Moore’s two-yard run topped off a 50-yard drive in six plays.
The Cowboys had only one turnover (a 39-yard interception return by senior safety Michael Ray off a pass by Karsten Sween in which the receiver slipped down) as compared to four last week. It also gave up only sacks, two of which came off the edge, as compared to nine in the first scrimmage.
“It was better than last week, but we still have a ways to go,” UW offensive coordinator Bob Cole said. “Obviously, we would have liked to see the first unit struggle as much as it did early on. We also had a couple of mistakes that brought touchdowns back, but our guys have bought into what we are doing. They know we are a good football team. We just need to hang in there and we’ll be fine.”
“I didn’t like the penalties — guys jumping offsides and holding penalties that called back a touchdown and another that took back a 35-yard run. That’s devastating to your offense. You have to play within the rules of the game,” Glenn added.
“Those things hurt and at the start of the year when you are in a new offense, you can’t take a five-yard penalty. Instead of 3rd-and-4 it’s 3rd-and-9, and that’s a huge difference. We need to clean up those penalties.”
Although the defense continued to be dominant, senior inside linebacker Ward Dobbs said the play on his side of the ball wasn’t all that inspiring in the second scrimmage.”
“I think you can tell that we are all getting tired of playing against each other. We’re ready to move on to Ohio,” said Dobbs, who had five tackles, including two for losses said. “The intensity wasn’t there because we have been playing with each other so long. It’s time to move on with our game plan against Ohio. The best thing about today is we didn’t get anybody hurt.”
One of the more dominant defenders in yesterday’s scrimmage was redshirt freshman linebacker Brian Hendricks, who finished with 12 tackles.
The Cowboys now have a little more than a week to get ready for the season opener a week from Saturday against Ohio in War Memorial Stadium.
Bob Hammond’s e-mail address is [email protected]
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Anyways... Its really difficult at this point to gauge the offense. By the numbers and drives they're getting, they look just plain terrible, but I think we may have the best defense this school has seen in a decade this year. Breske is a great cordinator, and has put strong defenses on the field every year he's been here, and now he finally has a talented and experienced d-line. That is by far the most important of the three parts of a defense. Claffey was a huge loss from last year at linebacker, but honestly Luke Chase and Prater will be easily replaced by our young talent.
Stinson and Medina will be by far the biggest losses for this squad. In fact, they may honestly be the only key losses we had, with the exception of maybe Betchart and Vinnedge. If the Gibson (or Gipson?) brothers can step up and play at the level Glenn claims they are capable of, this team could really take that next step. I think this team has more hype going into the season than last year's team, and maybe as much there was heading into the 2005 campaign.
Anyways... Its really difficult at this point to gauge the offense. By the numbers and drives they're getting, they look just plain terrible, but I think we may have the best defense this school has seen in a decade this year. Breske is a great cordinator, and has put strong defenses on the field every year he's been here, and now he finally has a talented and experienced d-line. That is by far the most important of the three parts of a defense. Claffey was a huge loss from last year at linebacker, but honestly Luke Chase and Prater will be easily replaced by our young talent.
Stinson and Medina will be by far the biggest losses for this squad. In fact, they may honestly be the only key losses we had, with the exception of maybe Betchart and Vinnedge. If the Gibson (or Gipson?) brothers can step up and play at the level Glenn claims they are capable of, this team could really take that next step. I think this team has more hype going into the season than last year's team, and maybe as much there was heading into the 2005 campaign.
Fullback41
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Agreed Claffey and Stinson were studs last year. I don't know how many times I asked my wife "did you see that?" then have to explain why it was such a good play. Claffey never got the credit I thought he deserved.
He dropped guys for losses 2 yrds deeper than he should have, and knocked down passes I didn't think anyone could get to. Only mistake I remember Stinson making was losing his receiver on SDSU winning TD (I assume it was his responsibility he was the closest to him but I'm not sure, I'm not the D Coor.) Medina was good but not great. Betchart was good but underutilized, seemed like 90% of the time we threw to him we got at least 7 yards.
So from what I have seen and read so far, the elder Gipson was supposed to start before he left school - so replacing the CBs may be even better. Weston Johnson looks like he can do the job filling in for Claffey. Just using our TEs more will make replacing Betchart easier.
That leaves Vinnedge, while not great, I think may be the biggest loss because I worry about our kicking and punting.
I hope we also lost last year's coverage teams - the worst in NCAA. Special teams seemed to be a strong point in the early Glenn years, I hope they return to that.
GO POKES beat Ohio. Look forward to watching from my new season ticket seats, not to mention the parking spot.
He dropped guys for losses 2 yrds deeper than he should have, and knocked down passes I didn't think anyone could get to. Only mistake I remember Stinson making was losing his receiver on SDSU winning TD (I assume it was his responsibility he was the closest to him but I'm not sure, I'm not the D Coor.) Medina was good but not great. Betchart was good but underutilized, seemed like 90% of the time we threw to him we got at least 7 yards.
So from what I have seen and read so far, the elder Gipson was supposed to start before he left school - so replacing the CBs may be even better. Weston Johnson looks like he can do the job filling in for Claffey. Just using our TEs more will make replacing Betchart easier.
That leaves Vinnedge, while not great, I think may be the biggest loss because I worry about our kicking and punting.
I hope we also lost last year's coverage teams - the worst in NCAA. Special teams seemed to be a strong point in the early Glenn years, I hope they return to that.
GO POKES beat Ohio. Look forward to watching from my new season ticket seats, not to mention the parking spot.
one-smooth-poke
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Adv8RU12 said:
OMG. This post was from back in August. How right it was. If only we had known in August.
Fullback41
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Yeah man, quit digging up these old posts. My optimism has me sounding retarded now. Do you notice Glenn's quote that if we can't get 4 yards everytime we need it we will be in trouble. He knew we were in trouble, anyone at the Spring game knew we were in trouble but we chalked it up to our D being so good. Sorry but our D is average, getting hammered by NM when we know they can only run the ball.
GO POKES, BEAT UTAH...
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