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UW @ Iowa

seattlecowboy said:
Some of you guys sound ridiculous.

I am frustrated with the way we lost and the game should have been much closer than it was because of the muffed punt and the dropped TD pass but with that said.....

Wyoming will not play a team the rest of the year with a nearly as good offensive line and a one two punch at running back like that. Wyoming's defense did great in my opinion. So they should be able to pressure and shut down most of the opponents we play the rest of the year.

Also Wyoming will not play anyone the rest of the year that will have nearly as good of a front 7 as Iowa on defense so the offense will move the ball.

Iowa will have one of the best front 7's in college football this year.

Everyone needs to chill out.

Yeah it was frustrating but Wyoming has a great shot to win the rest of their games.
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What a crappy way to start off what was supposed to be a tremendous season. We didn't step one foot into the red zone the entire game and couldn't even get a garbage time score either. I knew that we were thin at skill positions (outside of quarterback) but I had no idea that we were going to be this thin. 3 points off of 4 turnovers? When was the last time we won an OOC road game anyway?
 
seattlecowboy said:
Some of you guys sound ridiculous.

I am frustrated with the way we lost and the game should have been much closer than it was because of the muffed punt and the dropped TD pass but with that said.....

Wyoming will not play a team the rest of the year with a nearly as good offensive line and a one two punch at running back like that. Wyoming's defense did great in my opinion. So they should be able to pressure and shut down most of the opponents we play the rest of the year.

Also Wyoming will not play anyone the rest of the year that will have nearly as good of a front 7 as Iowa on defense so the offense will move the ball.

Iowa will have one of the best front 7's in college football this year.

Everyone needs to chill out.

Yeah it was frustrating but Wyoming has a great shot to win the rest of their games.
I disagree if we see play calling like today. Too predictable. Keep in mind, we had the same issues last year. Poor poor performance from the coaching staff and OC, IMO.


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Poke-proud said:
seattlecowboy said:
Some of you guys sound ridiculous.

I am frustrated with the way we lost and the game should have been much closer than it was because of the muffed punt and the dropped TD pass but with that said.....

Wyoming will not play a team the rest of the year with a nearly as good offensive line and a one two punch at running back like that. Wyoming's defense did great in my opinion. So they should be able to pressure and shut down most of the opponents we play the rest of the year.

Also Wyoming will not play anyone the rest of the year that will have nearly as good of a front 7 as Iowa on defense so the offense will move the ball.

Iowa will have one of the best front 7's in college football this year.

Everyone needs to chill out.

Yeah it was frustrating but Wyoming has a great shot to win the rest of their games.
I disagree if we see play calling like today. Too predictable. Keep in mind, we had the same issues last year. Poor poor performance from the coaching staff and OC, IMO.


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You can disagree all you want. You could call the same game against almost every other team we play the rest of the year and most of those plays would work because no one the rest of the year will have anything close to that front 7. I do think the play calling can be better but we don't have the skill position players right now to do anything against a front 7 like that.

Not having Price and Fort today hurt the passing game.
 
So it is just one game. But it looks like we took a big step backward in the skill positions on offense. Our running backs are small and like to dance around instead of run over people. Nothing will be easy for Josh if we average less than 2 yards a carry.

Our receivers are small and slow. Apparently, we can't recruit another Herron or Gentry. I guess the only way we stretch the defense is when Josh scrambles and a receiver gets behind the defense in the ensuing confusion. Someone mentioned Joe Glenn's offense. This is what it looks like when d backs and safeties don't respect the receivers speed. If you can't make them pay, then the windows get awfully small.
 
seattlecowboy said:
Poke-proud said:
seattlecowboy said:
Some of you guys sound ridiculous.

I am frustrated with the way we lost and the game should have been much closer than it was because of the muffed punt and the dropped TD pass but with that said.....

Wyoming will not play a team the rest of the year with a nearly as good offensive line and a one two punch at running back like that. Wyoming's defense did great in my opinion. So they should be able to pressure and shut down most of the opponents we play the rest of the year.

Also Wyoming will not play anyone the rest of the year that will have nearly as good of a front 7 as Iowa on defense so the offense will move the ball.

Iowa will have one of the best front 7's in college football this year.

Everyone needs to chill out.

Yeah it was frustrating but Wyoming has a great shot to win the rest of their games.
I disagree if we see play calling like today. Too predictable. Keep in mind, we had the same issues last year. Poor poor performance from the coaching staff and OC, IMO.


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You can disagree all you want. You could call the same game against almost every other team we play the rest of the year and most of those plays would work because no one the rest of the year will have anything close to that front 7. I do think the play calling can be better but we don't have the skill position players right now to do anything against a front 7 like that.

Not having Price and Fort today hurt the passing game.
I agree they had a decent d-line, makes the argument even more relevant- really doesn't make sense to send Josh running up the middle, versus using his arm . Hell, has Vigen heard of a screen. I'd take my chances with a long ball versus Josh up the gut.


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Should also point out that Iowa's O-line wasn't all that amazing today because they were missing two of their starters. We'll definitely see O-lines on that level again, even if maybe their fully healthy line would be better than anything else we see.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
Should also point out that Iowa's O-line wasn't all that amazing today because they were missing two of their starters. We'll definitely see O-lines on that level again, even if maybe their fully healthy line would be better than anything else we see.
well we handled them no problem so I'm not worried at all.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
Should also point out that Iowa's O-line wasn't all that amazing today because they were missing two of their starters. We'll definitely see O-lines on that level again, even if maybe their fully healthy line would be better than anything else we see.

From what I saw, they were only missing one. Starting C was out, so they moved LG to C, LT to LG, and brought in the backup LT. I was at the game, so didn't catch any announcer explanation, but that was the lineup I saw.

I was pretty impressed with your defense, to be honest. I thought they'd go well over 200 rushing with some wrinkles to get Wadley to the edge. It didn't really happen.

You guys also had a pretty good turnout in the stands. Good luck the rest of the way.
 
BarryZuckerkorn said:
Asmodeanreborn said:
Should also point out that Iowa's O-line wasn't all that amazing today because they were missing two of their starters. We'll definitely see O-lines on that level again, even if maybe their fully healthy line would be better than anything else we see.

From what I saw, they were only missing one. Starting C was out, so they moved LG to C, LT to LG, and brought in the backup LT. I was at the game, so didn't catch any announcer explanation, but that was the lineup I saw.

I was pretty impressed with your defense, to be honest. I thought we'd go well over 200 with some wrinkles to get Wadley to the edge. It didn't really happen.

You guys also had a pretty good turnout in the stands. Good luck the rest of the way.

Oh, that part was just quoted to me by a couple of Iowa fans on Reddit - I also only knew about the C. That makes me happier about the D overall. You can't expect them to shut everything down, and they had plenty of takeaways. Really hope the D-line can stay healthy!

Your defensive game plan was pretty spot on, though. Give up things underneath and don't let Allen use his strength to beat you deep... not that I'm sure anybody would've held on to deep balls given the dropped TD on a perfect throw the one chance we got, but still!
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
BarryZuckerkorn said:
Asmodeanreborn said:
Should also point out that Iowa's O-line wasn't all that amazing today because they were missing two of their starters. We'll definitely see O-lines on that level again, even if maybe their fully healthy line would be better than anything else we see.

From what I saw, they were only missing one. Starting C was out, so they moved LG to C, LT to LG, and brought in the backup LT. I was at the game, so didn't catch any announcer explanation, but that was the lineup I saw.

I was pretty impressed with your defense, to be honest. I thought we'd go well over 200 with some wrinkles to get Wadley to the edge. It didn't really happen.

You guys also had a pretty good turnout in the stands. Good luck the rest of the way.

Oh, that part was just quoted to me by a couple of Iowa fans on Reddit - I also only knew about the C. That makes me happier about the D overall. You can't expect them to shut everything down, and they had plenty of takeaways. Really hope the D-line can stay healthy!

Your defensive game plan was pretty spot on, though. Give up things underneath and don't let Allen use his strength to beat you deep... not that I'm sure anybody would've held on to deep balls given the dropped TD on a perfect throw the one chance we got, but still!

Don't come play the Big 10 we have real men.
 
Everyone needs to take a deep breath. This was the first game of season. We won't face a defensive or offensive line like Iowa's the remainder of season. We did some good things and some bad. I'm personally not worried about our conference schedule. This wasn't CU's or OSU's front 7 on either side. We'll be absolutely fine this year. Yeah it sucks asshole losing, but we've got a shit load positives moving forward
 
I'm kind of tired of seeing everyone say "relax, that's the best O-line D-line" we'll see all year - when I watched one of the worst offensively play called games all year. The only ones that were worse, were the ones Vigen called last year. Wyo isn't alright knowing we're going to have the same offensive game plan next week and the week after and the week after that. "OK" that's all I have to say about that.


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SDPokeFan said:
I feel like a sucker. I bought into the Josh Allen hype big time.

It was on espn.com that all the pro scouts feel the same way. They say he won't be drafted until maybe round 5 now. He might even be an undrafted free agent. Plus, were stuck with him for 11 more games this year. This might be a good time for you to find another team and another message board to post your insightful observations to. I'd hate for you to feel like a sucker again.
 
This front 7 nonsense....we were able to run some outside the A gaps, but those runs didnt work all game and they kept getting called. The read option was thrown in just enough to make us look cute and that didnt work either. The problem was that these plays were called on 3rd down way too often and never worked . When we started the 2nd half running outside the a gaps and play action passing, we had success, albeit not sustained in any drive. Screw the amazing front 7 talk, they didnt blow us up and we held their run game in check enough to compete. The failure was the jr high play calling. Barely any throws downfield against their weak secondary, too many out routes and short curls, too many runs in a gaps and too much read option....that was garbage play calling. Nothing remotely attacked them. There was no identification of some offensive game plan to exploit anything. Iowa played solid and straight up, they did well, but we made it way too easy on them.
 
Wyoklaelk said:
This front 7 nonsense....we were able to run some outside the A gaps, but those runs didnt work all game and they kept getting called. The read option was thrown in just enough to make us look cute and that didnt work either. The problem was that these plays were called on 3rd down way too often and never worked . When we started the 2nd half running outside the a gaps and play action passing, we had success, albeit not sustained in any drive. Screw the amazing front 7 talk, they didnt blow us up and we held their run game in check enough to compete. The failure was the jr high play calling. Barely any throws downfield against their weak secondary, too many out routes and short curls, too many runs in a gaps and too much read option....that was garbage play calling. Nothing remotely attacked them. There was no identification of some offensive game plan to exploit anything. Iowa played solid and straight up, they did well, but we made it way too easy on them.

So explain to me then how their secondary was weak? Where was there evidence of this? Or are you just spewing non sense because you heard they were starting some new guys back there? I didn't see any evidence of a weak secondary.

I saw Wyoming receivers that couldn't get open and the couple of times they did they dropped the ball. So again how was their secondary weak?
 
seattlecowboy said:
Wyoklaelk said:
This front 7 nonsense....we were able to run some outside the A gaps, but those runs didnt work all game and they kept getting called. The read option was thrown in just enough to make us look cute and that didnt work either. The problem was that these plays were called on 3rd down way too often and never worked . When we started the 2nd half running outside the a gaps and play action passing, we had success, albeit not sustained in any drive. Screw the amazing front 7 talk, they didnt blow us up and we held their run game in check enough to compete. The failure was the jr high play calling. Barely any throws downfield against their weak secondary, too many out routes and short curls, too many runs in a gaps and too much read option....that was garbage play calling. Nothing remotely attacked them. There was no identification of some offensive game plan to exploit anything. Iowa played solid and straight up, they did well, but we made it way too easy on them.

So explain to me then how their secondary was weak? Where was there evidence of this? Or are you just spewing non sense because you heard they were starting some new guys back there? I didn't see any evidence of a weak secondary.

I saw Wyoming receivers that couldn't get open and the couple of times they did they dropped the ball. So again how was their secondary weak?

The play calling didnt exactly test their secondary....that being said, yes, i am spewing a fairly accepted idea that their secondary was their weakness, especially with a starter sitting out. As our strength is supposed to be our qb play, seems like a logical game plan would have tested what i am spewing. The passing game was a jike with all the 5 yd out routes and 3 yd curls. Receivers didnt help the qb, and vigen didnt put anyone in a position to exploit anything.
 

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