LanderPoke
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no. We'll be wherever CSU, NM, Nevada, and USU are. I also think UNLV Fresno and Boise will be with us too. Do the Montana schools and NDSU join us? We shall see.OrediggerPoke said:
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UW and conference realignment
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Itsux2beaewe
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LanderPoke said:
How much of this depends on if the other schools want us with them. It’s no secret if you read the Goat U message board, they don’t want us in their conference. They believe they are superior. Might be why I dislike Goat U so much. I see the same arrogance as BYU toward us. They definitely believe they are superior, even though………..Boot.
Itsux2beaewe
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ragtimejoe1 said:
Is the new Ms Commish doing anything to enhance/protect the MW conference. I hear nothing!
Itsux2beaewe
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PokesArePeopleToo said:
Interesting MW ADs pay. Burman is last.
https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/how-much-every-mountain-west-athletic-director-will-make-in-2022-23
ragtimejoe1
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Another thing to watch will be what the entire landscape will look like. I just saw a report that the "P2" schools will likely make 30 million MORE than schools in the other conferences. That's not sustainable (to keep pace) for the schools left in the other "P3". Realistically, a few key additions to the Power 2 and we might be looking at a completely new power structure modeled after the NFL.
The formation of the P2 label will have the same effect as the P5/G5 labels. Will the P2 separate entirely?
This is going to get interesting in the next 5-10 years.
The formation of the P2 label will have the same effect as the P5/G5 labels. Will the P2 separate entirely?
This is going to get interesting in the next 5-10 years.
flyfishwyo
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ragtimejoe1 said:
Cal and Stanford aren't staying in that group. They would go independent if they're left out. Without them it's like the MWC plus Oregon St and Washington State.
Guys, if you want it to make sense look at the athletic budgets and then subtract the money each gets from their conference TV deal. That'll give you a pretty good idea of where each school is right now.
The PAC is going to lose more schools and can't replace them with a school of similar value. There isn't anyone even close to their region who can bring value to a TV deal.
The four corners schools will leave for the Big 12 for slightly more money, and a bigger voice. Oregon and Washington are valuable. They're going to the B1G. It may take a while, but it'll happen. Cal and Stanford may go, too. If they don't they'll look to separate from the leftover PAC because there isn't enough money in that deal to make it worth their time. Good chance they could become independent. Maybe Stanford joins the B1G with Notre Dame.
Itsux2beaewe
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laxwyo said:
I can’t think any network is real interested in a contract until they have confidence of Oregon and Washingtons plans. I don’t see them staying.
flyfishwyo
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Itsux2beaewe said:
And then it's a free-for-all. Any school with TV value is going somewhere else.
flyfishwyo said:
It absolutely is a free-for-all. If you can make 3x or more what you are making now...why not? Even if it comes at the expense of traditional rivalries...who cares? If you are Washington...you can still schedule Washington State...but you will probably be at a decided advantage going forward if your program has double the resources (or more). Seems like if you can make the move, there is no reason not to, or at least the reason not to has nothing to do with money and is only about tradition or an outdated notion of amateurism in athletics.
This represents the stick that Wyoming is at the short end of. For our population, we have robust support. The problem is that peer institutions are in population centers that come with far higher built in market size. We me have about the same (roughly) fan base of UNLV or UNM today...but we don't have a population that will support much growth of that fan base. Wyoming is basically utilizing it's population as supporters of the University far more efficiently than most of the MW. The only way Wyoming could grow it's market is if it had gone the Boise State route and become nationally relevant and built a national following. That obviously did not happen.
DamThatRiver22
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OrediggerPoke said:
For what it's worth, I recall having this discussion with some fans of one of the Montana schools a while back, and they said they literally aren't in a financial position to make the jump, even if they wanted to.
ragtimejoe1
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WYO1016 said:
suds, Fresno, bsu, and csu will jump at almost any alternative to the MWC. Yeah, the PAC tv deal will be a lot less than it is now but won't be worse than the MWC's even if they only hold onto 4 or 5 teams.
Who knows how this plays out but those 4 and probably others will jump at a PAC invite even if only wsu and osu left. It's improvement by subtraction. Subtract small market, small value teams, and pick the best remaining G5 teams in 3 time zones to roll in under the pac name. Absorb most of the remaining money and take advantage of the PAC's playoff spot.
ragtimejoe1
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stymeman said:
I don't know what it will be called but I'm wondering if we'll be at d1, fbs, or whatever after 2025. My hunch is that this major realignment will take focus and center on access to the playoff. I'll bet a lot of teams get left out when the playoff/bcs is renegotiated.
cowpoke pride
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If CSU had any value in the Denver market, they would have been taken by the Big XII when they did their exhaustive expansion search and then decided to stay put. So what was said above is true, Wyoming is as valuable as CSU in the Denver market, with no value whatsoever.
OrediggerPoke
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cowpoke pride said:
CSU's lack of value in the Denver market is directly related to their relative lack of success in football and basketball over the past 20 years. The Denver market is full of CSU grads...just uninterested grads due to the athletic failures. If they were consistently going to bowl games, they would be gone.
ragtimejoe1
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Starting to wonder if Stanford, cal, Oregon, and Washington go big. 4 corner schools go b12.
Pac12 becomes wsu, osu, bsu, sdsu, Fresno, unlv, smu, + a few from usu, csu, rice, af or?
The pac12 imploding will not be good for us and I'm afraid that is getting more possible by the day.
Pac12 becomes wsu, osu, bsu, sdsu, Fresno, unlv, smu, + a few from usu, csu, rice, af or?
The pac12 imploding will not be good for us and I'm afraid that is getting more possible by the day.
McPeachy
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ragtimejoe1 said:
It is all a guessing game at this point. Best case scenario for WYO and our lazy-assed athletic department...(not gonna happen):
Utah
Oregon State
Washington State
Arizona State
Arizona
Airforce
CSewe
Fresno State
SDSU
Utard State
Boise State
Wyoming
New Mexico
UNLV
Nevada
SJSU
Hawaii - Go Independent you fools!
Utah - Go with little brother bWHYu to the BIGXX
