The University of Wyoming is a two ring circus.

[wyokoke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

+1. And I would just LOVE Tracy to show some hard proof for his accusations. He may be right, who knows but if he is acting like he knows the whole story, why not share?

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

 

[WYCowboy]

I'm with you Tracy. And what he (Sternburg) had to say about Rita Meyer is beyond the pale for anyone yet a Univeristy President. Good job there Sternburg. :thumbdown:

Enlighten us please.

 

[HR_Poke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just no some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

Please expand on what you know. My shorts are plenty unbunched. I just want unbiased information on the wrong doings of the president. You claim he spent 4 million off budget. What did he spend it on?

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I'm with you Tracy. And what he (Sternburg) had to say about Rita Meyer is beyond the pale for anyone yet a Univeristy President. Good job there Sternburg. :thumbdown:

Ah heck, it was only when he introduced her for the distinguished alumni award at the banquet the night before homecoming. And when asked about it he quickly explained it wasn't his fault he said it. No it was the fault of the speechwriter. After all, he said, he diidn't even know what the word meant.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just no some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

Please expand on what you know. My shorts are plenty unbunched. I just want unbiased information on the wrong doings of the president. You claim he spent 4 million off budget. What did he spend it on?

We have established I know nothing and you have the expert insight so you tell me.

 

[WYCowboy]

I'm with you Tracy. And what he (Sternburg) had to say about Rita Meyer is beyond the pale for anyone yet a Univeristy President. Good job there Sternburg. :thumbdown:

Enlighten us please.

Come on now, you brought it up. I know Rita Meyer pretty well and I would like to hear what Mr. Sternburg had to say about her.

 

[HR_Poke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just no some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

Please expand on what you know. My shorts are plenty unbunched. I just want unbiased information on the wrong doings of the president. You claim he spent 4 million off budget. What did he spend it on?

We have established I know nothing and you have the expert insight so you tell me.

Continued deflection. Incredibly helpful.

 

[Wyovanian]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

The problem, Mr. Ringolsby, is you chose certain forums for expression, then,when challenged, fell back on no-value-in-elaboration. Well, if you don't (or won't) elaborate to support your assertions, what was your intent?

 

[HR_Poke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

The problem, Mr. Ringolsby, is you chose certain forums for expression, then,when challenged, fell back on no-value-in-elaboration. Well, if you don't (or won't) elaborate to support your assertions, what was your intent?

Bingo!

 

[MrTitleist]

Who's Rita Meyer? What did Sternberg say? Tracy briefly mentioned this to me over Twitter, but I'm curious now... Seems that a few people heard it and weren't thrilled with what Sternberg said.

I'm not current on my UW alumni list, soooooo...

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

The problem, Mr. Ringolsby, is you chose certain forums for expression, then,when challenged, fell back on no-value-in-elaboration. Well, if you don't (or won't) elaborate to support your assertions, what was your intent?

Bingo!

Correcting pronoun used earlier:

Facts are elusive for you, aren't they? I came on this forum to question accusations another posted made about me. I had not been on this forum for some time until tonight when he mentioned my name and I came on to ask about his claims. Memory loss? I mentioned a few issues in an ensuing discussion and with his all-knowing knowledge he determined they were lies so why you would want me to pass along any more information that would obviously be accurate is beyond me.

 

[djm19]

Tracy, you've perked my interest. Please share details re: Rita

 

[TracyRingolsby]

Tracy, you've perked my interest. Please share details re: Rita

I didn't bring it up.

 

[Wyovanian]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

The problem, Mr. Ringolsby, is you chose certain forums for expression, then,when challenged, fell back on no-value-in-elaboration. Well, if you don't (or won't) elaborate to support your assertions, what was your intent?

Bingo!

Correcting pronoun used earlier:

Facts are elusive for you, aren't they? I came on this forum to question accusations another posted made about me. I had not been on this forum for some time until tonight when he mentioned my name and I came on to ask about his claims. Memory loss? I mentioned a few issues in an ensuing discussion and with his all-knowing knowledge he determined they were lies so why you would want me to pass along any more information that would obviously be accurate is beyond me.

I think some accurate and timely information would pierce the fog surrounding this rather surprising line of events. You claim to have such, yet offer it, de facto, off the record.

What is it you're so reluctant to share here?

 

[HR_Poke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

I'd be happy to talk to you, and discuss whatever you want. Call collect if that's a concern. But other than to have HRPoke get his shorts wadded up there's no value in getting into a lengthy debate or discussion on here. Also I cannot claim to know the reasons for the decision that was reached. I just know some issues that I am aware of. Assume BOT will know those but probably much more. I not only don't know anyone on the BOT but I don't think I have ever spoken to anyone on the BOT. I don't see BOT making a move like this friviously. Those men are intelligent enough to know this doesn't look good, but I give them credit if they felt a move needed to be made they made it instead of being afraid of taking heat.

The problem, Mr. Ringolsby, is you chose certain forums for expression, then,when challenged, fell back on no-value-in-elaboration. Well, if you don't (or won't) elaborate to support your assertions, what was your intent?

Bingo!

Correcting pronoun used earlier:

Facts are elusive for you, aren't they? I came on this forum to question accusations another posted made about me. I had not been on this forum for some time until tonight when he mentioned my name and I came on to ask about his claims. Memory loss? I mentioned a few issues in an ensuing discussion and with his all-knowing knowledge he determined they were lies so why you would want me to pass along any more information that would obviously be accurate is beyond me.

Im curious why you think deflecting and being passive aggressive is going to get you anywhere. If you were really concerned about not continuing the discussion you would stop posting. But clearly you whish to swoop in drop the claim that you are in the know on something then pass on presenting this knowledge. Do you really need this feeling of self importance derived from anonymous mesage board posters?

 

[calpoke25]

I do not like how this went down one bit. To do this to a new President is going to be a black eye that UW will take a long time to recover from. It's disheartening to see the good ole boys win again.

However, I also don't think it's fair to assume that Pres Sternburg is a saint in the whole matter. I have family that works on campus and have heard quite a few negative things about the Pres and the way he, and moreover his family conduct business. My family isn't high on the food chain, not good ol boys, just people who have made their living working for UW in low level admin positions.

Just an example of one thing I know, a few weeks back the Prez's wife couldn't figure out how to put the license plate on her private car, so they called up UW services to do it for them. I have also heard quite a few stories about the President's house he is renting and "work" UW has done on it for him.

Obviously some could be tall-tales, but others would make you cringe a little bit, even if they are only 50% true. These kind of stories don't come out of thin air. I'll at least let the whole story come out before I pass judgement on it. I really hope the BOT had some legitimate reasons to do this, because if they don't and it's just the good ol boys picking partners, we really are f#$#ed.

 

[Wyovanian]

I do not like how this went down one bit. To do this to a new President is going to be a black eye that UW will take a long time to recover from. It's disheartening to see the good ole boys win again.

However, I also don't think it's fair to assume that Pres Sternburg is a saint in the whole matter. I have family that works on campus and have heard quite a few negative things about the Pres and the way he, and moreover his family conduct business. My family isn't high on the food chain, not good ol boys, just people who have made their living working for UW in low level admin positions.

Just an example of one thing I know, a few weeks back the Prez's wife couldn't figure out how to put the license plate on her private car, so they called up UW services to do it for them. I have also heard quite a few stories about the President's house he is renting and "work" UW has done on it for him.

Obviously some could be tall-tales, but others would make you cringe a little bit, even if they are only 50% true. These kind of stories don't come out of thin air. I'll at least let the whole story come out before I pass judgement on it. I really hope the BOT had some legitimate reasons to do this, because if they don't and it's just the good ol boys picking partners, we really are f#$#ed.

Everybody loves sausage, but no one wants to know a thing about how it's made.

 

[DocHolliday]

Not only a sad day for The University Of Wyoming and the entire state -- but an awfully pathetic and embarrassing spectacle as well.

This to me is a clear case of 'new blood' coming onto the scene, rattling some cages, creating some discomfort where 'comfort' had become the norm (for apparently the last 25 years)...and in the end, the status quo stomped their feet and held their breath long enough for Mr Sternberg to say; 'I'm out of here'.

I was fortunate to meet Mr. Sternberg briefly this past Saturday evening at The War.

After a brief on field ceremony that he took part in, I was able to shake his hand as he came off the field, and I told him to not let the bastards get him down, that we all had his back, and we loved his vision for creating a winning and consistent sports program in Laramie.

This news today is dispiriting yes ---> but the additional bad news and negativity that I will expect to come onto the scene soon enough --- is going to make today's (yesterday's) event seem like someone's birthday party when all the dust settles and the smoke clears.

Bring the 'Good-Enoughers' back onto the scene!

Watch out, Mike Vorel, a non staus quo reporter who has brought about much needed objectivity and clarity into his reporting with the CST since he's been here...they might run you out of town next, Mike!

My advice to Vorel is to quickly readjust his stance...make sure you begin cheerleading with your stories like the delusional Scott Nulph does in the WTE ('Wyoming is an average football team') or be prepared to be blackballed right out of town.

Here was a man in Sternberg who arrives onto the scene and wants Wyoming to be the best -- and if not the best, then to die trying.

Gee, what a novel concept...the room had become really complacent the last quarter of a century, lets see if we might all be able to raise our games and become something substantial?

Nah!!!

Why do that, the Good-Enoughers said...we're awfully cozy here in Laramie with the way things have been. How DARE YOU come in here and attempt to ruin out comfy-cozy existence!!!

In all I read and viewed it appeared he (Sternberg) wanted the very best for Wyoming not only in Athletics, but in all things across the campus.

Let this be a warning to anyone else...that if you come to the Cowboy State with anything considered to be innovative from an idea standpoint, that you keep those feelings to yourself...or else.

I've also found that most of the media here operate with the same Stepford Wives mentality that the status quo operators in Laramie employ...the media too, in my opinion, is guilty of falling into a marching line of not expecting too much from Wyoming football and basketball.

While in Fort Collins the ambition apparently has no ceiling, here in the Cowboy State, mediocrity is clearly acceptable.

Sorry that Mr. Sternberg hurt one too many feelings.

Sorry that Mr. Sternberg was far-far too ambitious.

Sorry that Mr. Sternberg wanted Wyoming to be the very best - or to die in the process of trying.

Unlike the status quo operators, Mr. Sternberg apparently knew who he was.

Rather I think, he knew who he was not?

He wasn't someone who felt that the same old same old was good enough.

If this was going to be the prevailing mentality...then obviously Mr. Sternberg refused to drop his own personal and professional standards to fit in with the merry band of clueless dopes who reside in the town of Mediocre, USA.

In other words, Laramie, Wyoming.

Oh yeah...before I close this out.

Go Pokes?

 

[TSpoke]

There may be more to the story about the "resignation" and maybe Sternberg deserved to go. But since the BOT didn't tell any of us what is going on then I have no choice then to just go by the publically available information. That information leads me to beleive that Sternberg was a forward thinker trying to move the University forward. He pissed of the old guard, good ol' boys, whatever you want to call them, that are comfortable. So they got rid of him. Thats what I am forced to beleive unless more info comes out.

There are 2 options here and neither one is good. 1. Just as I said above. Stenberg pissed of the good ol' boy club and the BOT caved to pressure and we are going to get a new president that brings everything back to the status quo. Probably even someone in house. Since they are from here and only people from Wyoming know anything about how to run things in wyoming.
2. Stenberg deserved to get fired. Which brings up the question. How did he get hired? and now we are going to let the same bunch of clowns that hired someone that shouldn't have been hired hire the next guy. Sounds like a winning plan. Did anyone else see at the press conference(I saw it in a tweet) when asked about how or why he was hired in the first place the BOT answered we aren't looking back we are looking forward. Well no shit you don't want to look back when looking back makes you look bad.

I am truely saddened by all this and no longer have any faith in the leadership at UW. I have to voice my displeasure in the only way I can,by no longer donating any money to the university and no longer buying season tickets. It won't be a lot that they are missing but I've increased my donations every year since I've been out of school (<10 years). That doesn't mean I am claiming to never support UW again. They can earn my support back but they no longer get the benifit of the doubt from me. Which is a sad thing to admit.