The University of Wyoming is a two ring circus.

[OrediggerPoke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

 

[HR_Poke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

 

[Cowboy Junky]

I like how I've asked Tracy about ten times what the plan is now, and what are the chances they we get a president that supports the athletics plan that was necessary in the mid 90's and is now 25 years over due?

Don't answer it. We all know that you don't have to have a plan moving forward. We know it's necessary, but no one knows how to accomplish it.

I guarantee you that the next president won't share Bob's vision for athletics.

Welcome to the conference basement.

It's good to see that Wyoming fans don't deserve titles and they don't even deserve the hope for titles in the future.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

 

[HR_Poke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

If they have cause to dismiss him the university has 0 liability in any monies owed him. The president has an ethics clause in his contract.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

If they have cause to dismiss him the university has 0 liability in any monies owed him. The president has an ethics clause in his contract.

That, however, doesn't mean law suits can't be filed and the thing can become an even bigger issue instead of just putting it behind and moving on. Don't be naive.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

I really disagree with using a settlement as a means to prove a fact. There is a reason that settlement negotiations are not admissible in a court of law.

The argument works both ways. Perhaps, Sternberg was willing to accept less so he doesn't have to endure a lengthy legal battle and so he can simply move on.

I would also appreciate if you would be willing to share your insight as to how Mr. Sternberg was unethical rather than the argument of it is "clear that he was seriously unethical because he accepted a lower settlement amount."

 

[HR_Poke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

I really disagree with using a settlement as a means to prove a fact. There is a reason that settlement negotiations are not admissible in a court of law.

The argument works both ways. Perhaps, Sternberg was willing to accept less so he doesn't have to endure a lengthy legal battle and so he can simply move on.

I would also appreciate if you would be willing to share your insight as to how Mr. Sternberg was unethical rather than the argument of it is "clear that he was seriously unethical because he accepted a lower settlement amount."

Quoted the wrong person. Sorry

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

I really disagree with using a settlement as a means to prove a fact. There is a reason that settlement negotiations are not admissible in a court of law.

The argument works both ways. Perhaps, Sternberg was willing to accept less so he doesn't have to endure a lengthy legal battle and so he can simply move on.

I would also appreciate if you would be willing to share your insight as to how Mr. Sternberg was unethical rather than the argument of it is "clear that he was seriously unethical because he accepted a lower settlement amount."

I agree that the argument works both ways, and by reaching a settlement both sides avoid the expense and hassle of a drawn out cour tcase. As for your last point, I am probably doing a bad job of looking back at what I posted but you will have to showed me where I said what you have in quotes. Sorry.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I have no reason to call you a punk.

ZOMG!! Thank you! Thank you! You've made my night.

Corrected the mistake. Don't want you to be accused of misquoting me.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

I really disagree with using a settlement as a means to prove a fact. There is a reason that settlement negotiations are not admissible in a court of law.

The argument works both ways. Perhaps, Sternberg was willing to accept less so he doesn't have to endure a lengthy legal battle and so he can simply move on.

I would also appreciate if you would be willing to share your insight as to how Mr. Sternberg was unethical rather than the argument of it is "clear that he was seriously unethical because he accepted a lower settlement amount."

I agree that the argument works both ways, and by reaching a settlement both sides avoid the expense and hassle of a drawn out cour tcase. As for your last point, I am probably doing a bad job of looking back at what I posted but you will have to showed me where I said what you have in quotes. Sorry.

You know full well I wasn't quoting you and the quotes were to lay out the settlement inference that you were making. I was simply asking for you to share what insight, knowledge or evidence that you may have in regards to Mr. Sternberg's potentially unethical actions. Frankly I don't know what led to the BOT's decision and would like to believe that they had good reason but am concerned as those reasons have nowhere been laid out.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

I don't see the University recovering from this black eye anytime soon. I sure hope the BOT is privy to some seriously unethical facts concerning Mr. Sternberg that none of us are aware of.

If there were they would be grounds for dismissal without the severance package. Which is not the case here

And if he was dimissed he should be receiving more than $1 million instead of accepting $325,000. Maybe it's cheaper and easier to just bring an end to the relationship than to get involved in a series of legal matters.

I really disagree with using a settlement as a means to prove a fact. There is a reason that settlement negotiations are not admissible in a court of law.

The argument works both ways. Perhaps, Sternberg was willing to accept less so he doesn't have to endure a lengthy legal battle and so he can simply move on.

I would also appreciate if you would be willing to share your insight as to how Mr. Sternberg was unethical rather than the argument of it is "clear that he was seriously unethical because he accepted a lower settlement amount."

I agree that the argument works both ways, and by reaching a settlement both sides avoid the expense and hassle of a drawn out cour tcase. As for your last point, I am probably doing a bad job of looking back at what I posted but you will have to showed me where I said what you have in quotes. Sorry.

You know full well I wasn't quoting you and the quotes were to lay out the settlement inference that you were making. I was simply asking for you to share what insight, knowledge or evidence that you may have in regards to Mr. Sternberg's potentially unethical actions. Frankly I don't know what led to the BOT's decision and would like to believe that they had good reason but am concerned as those reasons have nowhere been laid out.

You want to call me be glad to discuss anythng you want.
My inference was that taking the settlement was a better option than an extended battle and that is for both sides. It wasn't one side or the other. It's about cutting your losses.

 

[HR_Poke]

See here is the flaw in his logic. He doesnt want to post something but will tell you over the phone. When he knows full well it will just be repeated on this forum.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

See here is the flaw in his logic. He doesnt want to post something but will tell you over the phone. When he knows full well it will just be repeated on this forum.

You don't want to believe anything that is contrary to your make believe world so why would you even care?
If someone wants to have a serious conversation I'd be happy to have one, but just to post and create a furor because my feelings are different than yours is not of any value.

 

[HR_Poke]

See here is the flaw in his logic. He doesnt want to post something but will tell you over the phone. When he knows full well it will just be repeated on this forum.

You don't want to believe anything that is contrary to your make believe world so why would you even care?
If someone wants to have a serious conversation I'd be happy to have one, but just to post and create a furor because my feelings are different than yours is not of any value.

Has nothing to do with feelings. If sternberg did something unethical or illegal he should be fired and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Several have asked for more information regarding this and you refuse. What did he do that was so bad that he was asked to resign? We as alumni, donors a d tax payers deserve to know.

 

[TracyRingolsby]

See here is the flaw in his logic. He doesnt want to post something but will tell you over the phone. When he knows full well it will just be repeated on this forum.

You don't want to believe anything that is contrary to your make believe world so why would you even care?
If someone wants to have a serious conversation I'd be happy to have one, but just to post and create a furor because my feelings are different than yours is not of any value.

Has nothing to do with feelings. If sternberg did something unethical or illegal he should be fired and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Several have asked for more information regarding this and you refuse. What did he do that was so bad that he was asked to resign? We as alumni, donors a d tax payers deserve to know.

How can I offer you more information. You have already established I don't know anything. You have all the answers so give them to us.

 

[HR_Poke]

See here is the flaw in his logic. He doesnt want to post something but will tell you over the phone. When he knows full well it will just be repeated on this forum.

You don't want to believe anything that is contrary to your make believe world so why would you even care?
If someone wants to have a serious conversation I'd be happy to have one, but just to post and create a furor because my feelings are different than yours is not of any value.

Has nothing to do with feelings. If sternberg did something unethical or illegal he should be fired and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Several have asked for more information regarding this and you refuse. What did he do that was so bad that he was asked to resign? We as alumni, donors a d tax payers deserve to know.

How can I offer you more information. You have already established I don't know anything. You have all the answers so give them to us.

Deflection. Thats helpful.....

 

[PCB]

I'm with you Tracy. And what he (Sternburg) had to say about Rita Meyer is beyond the pale for anyone yet a Univeristy President. Good job there Sternburg. :thumbdown:

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

 

[HR_Poke]

I have no pre-conceived notion other than I don't believe that the dismissal was warranted based upon publicly known facts. That is why I simply asked you, Mr. Ringolsby, for the facts that you believe or know which may have warranted Mr. Sternberg's resignation/termination.

I really hope that the BOT had good reason for its action! Because, if not, we look really really bad as a University to any "outsider." Perhaps Professor Easton will still go forth with his case as to how the President acted unethically. However, considering the President is no longer here for rebuttal, I doubt Professor Easton would elect to do so.

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