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Spack interviewing

Its looking like Burman has no plan or idea what the fuck he is doing. He is incompetent, the Bor is incompetent, the university is incompetent, the leadership is incompetent. Wyoming doesnt want to win, have the desire or will to be successful. We are fuck as fans and nothing is gonna change any time soon. WE ARE FUCKED.
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I gotta hand it to you...you sure know how to extrapolate from a report that we're interviewing someone who isn't your first choice!
 
I dont need a report to know we are fucked. Its the University of Wyoming we are talking about. No support from the top and expect outstanding results from the bottom. Thats why are programs SUCK. Face the cold hard facts. Without support from above Jesus Christ himself would fail at UW like every other MWC coach has done at UW. Are all the coaches losers? No its because of our loser administration. THEY ARE LOSERS AND ARE FINE WITH IT........
 
Just saw on twitter per Bruce Feldman that Spack is not in Wyoming today interviewing, he is in Illinois for big recruiting weekend.
 
I'm having to squint pretty hard to see Spack as the right guy at this point in the program's history.
 
I will say if Spack has been in Laramie in the past 48 hours and interviewed with Burman what I heard was wrong or Burman was the like the Colts of 1983 when they left in the middle of the night for Indy. Did Burman sneak back in town in the middle of the night?
 
I'm having to squint pretty hard to see Spack as the right guy at this point in the program's history.
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I don't know a thing about the guy, other than what I see on Wikipedia. Why is he a bad pick?
 
J-Rod said:
If its Spack, then WTF? Why not just keep DC if this was the plan? Come on Burman.
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Remember Burman's comments about toughness and how the players were competing. We saw that toughness emerge at U.W. and continue on to Purdue. My concern is that, even at Purdue, the Tiller teams tried to get too much mileage out of undersized D-linemen and got into trouble with the big 3 of the Big Ten most years because of it.

As an aside, Tiller'd decision to replace his D-Coordinator and bring in Spack was an example of the type of thing that Joe Glenn needed to do. We have many conversations about JG's offensive coordinator and gameplan, but he left his main offensive guy at Montana as successor when JG came to Laramie. What we saw was not the assistant that helped him build his success.

The Spack example does remind me of Shoyer in that he was only in Laramie for a short time, but his presence on the staff coincided with sharply improved defense and the peak year of the team's success. We never saw how either of them recruited to Laramie.
 
PokePride.com said:
I will say if Spack has been in Laramie in the past 48 hours and interviewed with Burman what I heard was wrong or Burman was the like the Colts of 1983 when they left in the middle of the night for Indy. Did Burman sneak back in town in the middle of the night?
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Why don't you share what you heard? Otherwise quit making us read between the lines...
 
Count me in the side of the hire of Brock Spack as being one of acceptance that Wyoming can only be what they are, in other words "mediocre". If Brock Spack is the best that Wyoming can do then we need a different AD. I read the stuff about the MAC Championship game last night and how we should be looking at the game because of its connection to the search for the next HC at Wyoming and that frankly depressed me. Wyoming needs a dynamic hire, not a hire who has connections like Spack, because as someone else very accurately mentioned, if Brock Spack didn't have connections with Tiller we would not even be talking about him DUE to his record. I was excited about Tedford because he has been successful at the highest level as a coach, Spack's record while overall he has a winning record, this last season was very unremarkable and the scores that his defense gave up in some of the games reminds me of Wyoming's defense this last season and there is no way that I can get excited about that.

I have no doubt that Burman will talk up whatever candidate he announces as the next HC but if it is Brock Spack the only thing that I will get is indigestion. If Wyoming "settles" for a lesser hire then tries to talk him up it only goes to show how bad things truly are in Laramie. Right now, my impression of UW is that it is a bunch of good old boys that are discovering that things are failing within the athletic department and they are struck with the reality that their cheapness has doomed Wyoming to years of mediocrity and they don't care for the glare of their failure to be put upon them. The BOT really doesn't want to spend more on the athletic department as they are all talk and nothing else and at this point the BOT needs to put up or shut up. If we "settle" for a lesser candidate then that tells me the cheapness side has won and mediocrity will be the future of the department no matter how much they protest to the opposite.

But right now I am so "unexcited" it isn't funny....I hope that I see a real commitment to winning at Wyoming with this hire and not just a surrender and a lot of talk to cover it up.
 
Count me in the side of the hire of Brock Spack as being one of acceptance that Wyoming can only be what they are, in other words "mediocre". If Brock Spack is the best that Wyoming can do then we need a different AD. I read the stuff about the MAC Championship game last night and how we should be looking at the game because of its connection to the search for the next HC at Wyoming and that frankly depressed me. Wyoming needs a dynamic hire, not a hire who has connections like Spack, because as someone else very accurately mentioned, if Brock Spack didn't have connections with Tiller we would not even be talking about him DUE to his record. I was excited about Tedford because he has been successful at the highest level as a coach, Spack's record while overall he has a winning record, this last season was very unremarkable and the scores that his defense gave up in some of the games reminds me of Wyoming's defense this last season and there is no way that I can get excited about that.

I have no doubt that Burman will talk up whatever candidate he announces as the next HC but if it is Brock Spack the only thing that I will get is indigestion. If Wyoming "settles" for a lesser hire then tries to talk him up it only goes to show how bad things truly are in Laramie. Right now, my impression of UW is that it is a bunch of good old boys that are discovering that things are failing within the athletic department and they are struck with the reality that their cheapness has doomed Wyoming to years of mediocrity and they don't care for the glare of their failure to be put upon them. The BOT really doesn't want to spend more on the athletic department as they are all talk and nothing else and at this point the BOT needs to put up or shut up. If we "settle" for a lesser candidate then that tells me the cheapness side has won and mediocrity will be the future of the department no matter how much they protest to the opposite.

But right now I am so "unexcited" it isn't funny....I hope that I see a real commitment to winning at Wyoming with this hire and not just a surrender and a lot of talk to cover it up.
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I have no idea about Spack. Why would he be a bad pick?

And -- I know you know this -- Wyoming doesn't just get to go out and hire whomever they want. The phone lines have been burning, probably for two weeks, between Burman and agents, as we try to figure out who might want the job and whether we might want them. That probably turns out to be a fairly small pool.
 
Spack is a horrible choice. I thought Burman said he wanted a coach that would bring cowboy tough back to what it was. I dont consider an FCS coach whose team would give up mutiple 50 point games defensively and a losing record "cowboy tough". I think Burman needs to understand that Tiller is just helping out his friends. I want the best big name FBS head coach available. A big name coach will bring in bigger recruits and better assistants. We need the best available period. Someone who can unleash this hamstrung offense and develop a kick ass defense. Its got to be Tedford or Petrino. No FCS crap.
 
"I want the best big name FBS head coach available."

Problem is the best big name head coach would need to want to come to Laramie. It's a two way street, man.
 
I do not think it is about "connections" in a bad sense so much as it is an example of what we know about Coach Spack's impact to a program first-hand. He was a critical part of the single best year of Wyoming football since Paul Roach stepped down. If Lee Moon had not dropped the ball in 1996, we would have a much longer track record with Coach Spack, I believe.

As for the Board of Trustees, they may deserve criticism, but I do not think the football coach should be their top priority right now. There is too much that is more important to the institution that is going wrong right now. It might be their fault, but they also need to get it fixed--fast.
 
When you have incompetent leadership you can't fix anything fast let alone fix it at all. Thank god for them they have government jobs and tax payer money
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
"I want the best big name FBS head coach available."

Problem is the best big name head coach would need to want to come to Laramie. It's a two way street, man.
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Thats true. Let me rephrase that. " I want the Best big name FBS head coach available that is interested in turning a program like Wyoming around".
 
Cuttslam said:
When you have incompetent leadership you can't fix anything fast let alone fix it at all. Thank god for them they have government jobs and tax payer money
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Aint that the truth!
 
SnowyRange said:
Count me in the side of the hire of Brock Spack as being one of acceptance that Wyoming can only be what they are, in other words "mediocre". If Brock Spack is the best that Wyoming can do then we need a different AD. I read the stuff about the MAC Championship game last night and how we should be looking at the game because of its connection to the search for the next HC at Wyoming and that frankly depressed me. Wyoming needs a dynamic hire, not a hire who has connections like Spack, because as someone else very accurately mentioned, if Brock Spack didn't have connections with Tiller we would not even be talking about him DUE to his record. I was excited about Tedford because he has been successful at the highest level as a coach, Spack's record while overall he has a winning record, this last season was very unremarkable and the scores that his defense gave up in some of the games reminds me of Wyoming's defense this last season and there is no way that I can get excited about that.

I have no doubt that Burman will talk up whatever candidate he announces as the next HC but if it is Brock Spack the only thing that I will get is indigestion. If Wyoming "settles" for a lesser hire then tries to talk him up it only goes to show how bad things truly are in Laramie. Right now, my impression of UW is that it is a bunch of good old boys that are discovering that things are failing within the athletic department and they are struck with the reality that their cheapness has doomed Wyoming to years of mediocrity and they don't care for the glare of their failure to be put upon them. The BOT really doesn't want to spend more on the athletic department as they are all talk and nothing else and at this point the BOT needs to put up or shut up. If we "settle" for a lesser candidate then that tells me the cheapness side has won and mediocrity will be the future of the department no matter how much they protest to the opposite.

But right now I am so "unexcited" it isn't funny....I hope that I see a real commitment to winning at Wyoming with this hire and not just a surrender and a lot of talk to cover it up.
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I have no idea about Spack. Why would he be a bad pick?

And -- I know you know this -- Wyoming doesn't just get to go out and hire whomever they want. The phone lines have been burning, probably for two weeks, between Burman and agents, as we try to figure out who might want the job and whether we might want them. That probably turns out to be a fairly small pool.
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Why compete if things are as you say? To be fodder for other teams always, then count me out as far as one that is going to be a big supporter of constant losing. Why not Spack? Did you not look at his record, overall over 5 years he has a winning record, but this last year he had a losing record and his defense was giving up the same points as Wyoming's defense was...in the 50 point range, so how is that an improvement, especially since ISU's opponents are not as highly rated as Wyoming's opponents and yet they are giving tons of points up to inferior teams? I don't see how that is toughness. Brock Spack, if it were simply due to his record would not be considered for the Wyoming job, he is only being considered due to his connection to Wyoming and Tiller. I want a coach that is being considered due to his stellar record. I really do believe that Wyoming could come up with more money if only the BOT would allow it, but if we are going to cut budgets and no fund the program we shouldn't be in the MWC......I am tired of being a team that other teams build their records on, aren't you? If you accept losing that is your choice, for mine I don't. Either we make a decision to invest the necessary money and be competitive or move down to a lower division where we can be competitive. Year and years of never challenging for a championship and being mediocre has worn me down....it is time to be competitive or to move down.
 
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