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Holy shit, JVK, you have no fucking idea of what you are talking about when it comes to Wyoming athletics. Seeing the endless circle of repetitive shit you post is painful to read.

No matter how many times people explain things, you still think you know better.
No matter what it's about! Attendance, empty seats, teams expectations, etc. Whatever it is, you have no fucking idea what it is.

My god, what if I started talking about Minnesota hoops and telling you that you don't know how things are and that you are a shitty fan because I started watching 25 games ago?

FFS man.
 
BeaverPoke said:
joshvanklomp said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
And last but not least, if shyatt wants the fans off his ass, win us a conference championship and get us to the NCAA. That's it. As a fan base we're tired of CBI garbage. We will never earn national or regional respect in the CBI or NIT. The goal every year has to be th NCAA
I don't think it's that common for teams to make a jump from the CBI right to the NCAA. Of course it's our goal, but sometimes you have to learn to crawl before you can sprint.

Dude, the last 3 years we SHOULD have been CBI, NIT, Big Dance, not CBI CBI CBI.
But no! Fuck it! 4 years in a row for the CBI should be the fucking goal!

Dude, you need to chill. You, yourself have used the off the court issues as the reason for 3 straight CBIs. And I'm in that vote. We can't control bad decision and bar fight. Kick off our best player. We can't control kids wanting to transfer. We can't control Nance going down with a torn ACL. And we couldn't control the Mono. Does it seem to happen to us, that every year there seems to be something? Yes. Can we control it. Nope. Do we build from it? Yes. Hence our recruiting has been better year after year. Does it suck that we haven't had an NCAA tourney appearance yet? Yes. Are we on our way? I think so.
We had four years of bad, we on four years of "mediocre"/ gradually getting better. We might need another year, but I think were about to hit years of good.
Does it seem like the bottom is falling out? Yeah, we're 2-4 in our last 6. Nance, though back, is not himself. Does that mean he finishes the season that way? I don't think so. Which is why I don't believe this season is over just yet.
 
Subcanis said:
Sucks.

Period.

Any faceless #ass can criticize any #player and #coach in real time. Those same coaches and players read them #immediately and can respond, #intheheatofthemoment.

Its not good. Fans are passionate, players are passionate. The only purpose it serves is to alienate fans from players (and vice versa) when emotions are running high.

Not saying the criticism isn't deserved or undeserved. Just pointing out how easy it is to address an individual on either side of the coin in this day versus, say, 10 years ago. We no longer have to write the editor of the local sports rag or send the HC a snail mail letter. We can just find them on the internet and leave a comment that doesn't require a name and return address to publish.

Your 100% right. The Internet is a huge cesspool and has been since its inception. It doesn't take much effort to buy your groceries and call a player a bad name at the same time. I guess the groceries part makes it a bit less of a cesspool.

On the other hand, it has helped a hell of of alot of people out and has given so many voices to so many people that weren't heard before. There is an endless amount of knowlege out there.

Granted, the Internet isn't Social media, and Social media isn't the internet - but the two are hand in hand.

We live at an awesome point in time where everyone can communicate freely - but nobody knows how to speak or to listen.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I read through everything. I am so fucking embarrassed man.

WTF are they thinking?

Why on earth does Shyatt let them use twitter during the season?

How is saying "Hankerson needs benched" a personal attack? It wasn't sent to Hank, or an insult, or trying to bring people down. It's not a sign of a bad fan. Can people as fans not express their fucking opinions?

Really disappointed in Nance for first responding. WTF man? You are so much better than this.

I hope they get their asses ripped today. Forget the loss. The way they acted off the court is a fucking embarrassment.
And Larry Nance is now the final voice on who can be fans or not? Fuck, you kidding me? How many people on here have been going to games since before Nance was even born???

And bravo Trey Washington, you fucking tool. Threatening someone because he said Hank needs benched. Who are you??? You're a fucking red-shirt sitting the bench.

Why are Wyo players so against their own fans? Why don't they know how to deal with criticism?
Is this just the new generation of kids? If you say something that isn't sucking their dicks you are a hater and not a fan?

FUCK man!

Thank about this for a moment - if you say "You cant us twitter/fb/whatever during the season" - that means two things.

1.) You can't write on your Twitter/Facebook/Wyonation/WTF ever account
2.) You can't read on your Twitter/Facebook/Wyonation/WTF ever account

The second is less inclusive - because you could technically not be logged in and still read those messages.

Then you may get the rebels - the guys that sign up with fake social media accounts - think "Narry Lance Rj" and "Giley Rabau".

What do you do? You can't restrict your players from calling whoever they want. You can't restrict them from writing an old fashioned postal message to someone. You sure can't restrict them from being on the internet.

All you can do is teach them to realize - years ago, people got nasty post cards, they got nasty letters, they got people knocking on the door pissed off. What you can do is not take it emotionally and forget about it. Not a damn telegraph, postcard, letter, email, IM, twitter, facebook, instagram, or whatever matters - unless you let it emotionally get to you.
 
There are a lot of teams across the country that coaches ban the use of social media until after games are over with. It can be done and yes I'm sure people still try to get around it but the fact is the people that care about their scholarship are not going to risk losing it to be social.
 
kansasCowboy said:
BeaverPoke said:
joshvanklomp said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
And last but not least, if shyatt wants the fans off his ass, win us a conference championship and get us to the NCAA. That's it. As a fan base we're tired of CBI garbage. We will never earn national or regional respect in the CBI or NIT. The goal every year has to be th NCAA
I don't think it's that common for teams to make a jump from the CBI right to the NCAA. Of course it's our goal, but sometimes you have to learn to crawl before you can sprint.

Dude, the last 3 years we SHOULD have been CBI, NIT, Big Dance, not CBI CBI CBI.
But no! Fuck it! 4 years in a row for the CBI should be the fucking goal!

Dude, you need to chill. You, yourself have used the off the court issues as the reason for 3 straight CBIs. And I'm in that vote. We can't control bad decision and bar fight. Kick off our best player. We can't control kids wanting to transfer. We can't control Nance going down with a torn ACL. And we couldn't control the Mono. Does it seem to happen to us, that every year there seems to be something? Yes. Can we control it. Nope. Do we build from it? Yes. Hence our recruiting has been better year after year. Does it suck that we haven't had an NCAA tourney appearance yet? Yes. Are we on our way? I think so.
We had four years of bad, we on four years of "mediocre"/ gradually getting better. We might need another year, but I think were about to hit years of good.
Does it seem like the bottom is falling out? Yeah, we're 2-4 in our last 6. Nance, though back, is not himself. Does that mean he finishes the season that way? I don't think so. Which is why I don't believe this season is over just yet.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me year after year after year, I get sick of the CBI. News flash... teams battle through adversity all the time and make it to the NIT and Big Dance. What does Wyoming do with adversity? Get on twitter and wine about it.
 
I'm tired of the CBI just as much as you Beav. But when your team dynamic shifts exponentially, you will struggle.
Do you want to put lack of depth on Shy? You can if you want, but he doesn't control a player wanting to transfer, or where they transfer to. You know as well as I do that they lack of depth occurred when the team he enheritted disbanded. That would cause a hiccup for ANY coach. He's had to build against lack of depth for four years, along with having players transfer, quit, get injured or just down right have to get kicked off the team.
You want to talk recruiting getting better every year. Then consider this, our starting point in Grabau, with as well as he does, and as well as he plays within himself and has bettered himself would be the "Jack Bentz" of any of the MWC's top schools. At UNLV, SDSU, probably even UNM or CSU, he'd never see a lick of playing time.
Now, don't get me wrong I like the kid, but he can't beat you off the dribble, he can't force bad shot, he's not a threat to steal the ball, he's one step too slow to stay in front of most athletic guards. And he cannot penetrate, if he could he'd be forcing fouls and our best free throw shooter would be going to the line as much as Adams.
Adams was the very nex year, and between the two guards, it's night and day. I jus read on here, someone stated that even UNLV fans wish they had him. Because he can do all those things.
Now, four years ago, we were more religated to getting a PG like Grabau. Four years later we're going and getting a guy like Conway, who I honestly believe will run circles around Grabau's overall numbers, exception, maybe Grabau's free throw shooting percentage, but not the overall attempts.
We are now bringing in players that other competition wanted. Liebs, Gorski, Barnes. These guys have GREAT upside to them. And the benefit, they will actually be coached up, not allowed to run rampant and out of control.
So when we're senior heavy and still predicted sixth, this could be a factor. On occasion we hit a diamond in the rough that becomes a teams star player. Unranked Nance, and unranked Adams. But it takes more than that. We are have since left the recruiting realm of the unranked possible diamonds in the rough, and we are now getting some credible recruits. But all our potential with exception. Of Adams is either a freshman or in high school still.
Have we identified depth as an issue year after year? Yes, time and again. Have we addressed those areas lacking in depth, absolutely. Are they young, with their own chances to show they can be just as good as Adams or Nance and not just a role player like Grabau of Herndon? Yeah.
Because of all this, I questioned how good this team could actually be from the start. 24-7 if we were on our "A" game. By 7-0 you were touting how this team should have no less than 26-28 wins and an NCAA appearance. You over excel where this program is and want things (like we all do) by dreaming too big. Then your bubble bursts!
I questioned the other two dynamics of the season, conf play and road games. I was still questioning this team by their two road losses in OOC play. You still had us blowing by everyone in conf play. We held our own and beat CSU at CSU, that's when I began to think that if nothing happened to us the bottom wouldn't drop out on us. I was okay with the SDSU losses, even okay with USU on the road. Then mono takes our star and sixth man, that is the equivent of UNLV not only losing Vaughn, but him and McCaw. Big difference. The mono, whether you would like to consider it an excuse or not, caused us to go on this 2-4 stint. Without the incident, we are probably 4-2 here at this juncture or better. The biggest or littlest things can affect a season. But one thing is for sure...

The season is not over. And the future is bright.
 
Nobody seems to like the idea of playing in the CBI. Is it because the Pokes weren't good enough to make the NCAA or NIT? Well maybe for some, but for me here's why: We get our ass kicked in the second round (or the first) by some low level no-name team and sent home with our tails between our legs.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Nobody seems to like the idea of playing in the CBI. Is it because the Pokes weren't good enough to make the NCAA or NIT? Well maybe for some, but for me here's why: We get our ass kicked in the second round (or the first) by some low level no-name team and sent home with our tails between our legs.
This. The last two years we accept these games and our players, at least to outward appearances, have no interest in being there and we get boat raced by teams that wouldn't win a game in MWC play. God it's frustrating
 
BeaverPoke said:
joshvanklomp said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
And last but not least, if shyatt wants the fans off his ass, win us a conference championship and get us to the NCAA. That's it. As a fan base we're tired of CBI garbage. We will never earn national or regional respect in the CBI or NIT. The goal every year has to be th NCAA
I don't think it's that common for teams to make a jump from the CBI right to the NCAA. Of course it's our goal, but sometimes you have to learn to crawl before you can sprint.

Dude, the last 3 years we SHOULD have been CBI, NIT, Big Dance, not CBI CBI CBI.
But no! Fuck it! 4 years in a row for the CBI should be the fucking goal!
Where did I say CBI should be the goal? Do they teach Reading Comprehension 101 at Beaver State? Maybe you should try taking a class, you might learn some things.

And people would take you a lot more seriously if you didn't have to curse in order to make a point. It makes you really sound immature.
 
joshvanklomp said:
BeaverPoke said:
joshvanklomp said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
And last but not least, if shyatt wants the fans off his ass, win us a conference championship and get us to the NCAA. That's it. As a fan base we're tired of CBI garbage. We will never earn national or regional respect in the CBI or NIT. The goal every year has to be th NCAA
I don't think it's that common for teams to make a jump from the CBI right to the NCAA. Of course it's our goal, but sometimes you have to learn to crawl before you can sprint.

Dude, the last 3 years we SHOULD have been CBI, NIT, Big Dance, not CBI CBI CBI.
But no! Fuck it! 4 years in a row for the CBI should be the fucking goal!
Where did I say CBI should be the goal? Do they teach Reading Comprehension 101 at Beaver State? Maybe you should try taking a class, you might learn some things.

And people would take you a lot more seriously if you didn't have to curse in order to make a point. It makes you really sound immature.

Wait wait wait. You are asking me about reading comprehension when you have caused several Wyonation posters to say "WTF did you even read the post?". People explain stuff to you and you ask the same question. You are the king of making endless circles of simple points.

Don't believe me? Go look through any of the threads about lower bowl attendance.

And I don't care if people take me seriously, especially if it is because I am cursing. Not a worry of mine.

Maybe people would take you serious on ANY level if you understood jack shit about Wyoming athletics.
 
MrTitleist said:
Don't you have to buy your way into the CBI? If so, that's the reason we shouldn't play in it.

Does Shyatt really refuse post-season play for Larry Nance in his senior year?
That may be the way he pisses off the Nance family and ensures ZERO chance at the younger Nance.

It's the Brett Smith-Cade Smith situation all over again hahaha. No point in worrying about a recruit 4 years from now.
 
MrTitleist said:
Don't you have to buy your way into the CBI? If so, that's the reason we shouldn't play in it.

In 2012, each host school had to give the CBI a ticket guarantee of $35,000 for first-round games, $50,000 for the quarterfinals and $75,000 per game for the semifinals and the best-of-three finals. I'm sure the costs are at least the same in 2015, so that would mean the Pokes would have to pony up $35,000 just to host the first game. The gate and concessions would offset some of the $35,000, but I don't see any value in paying to play in this tourney. Sorry, I just don't.
 
BeaverPoke said:
MrTitleist said:
Don't you have to buy your way into the CBI? If so, that's the reason we shouldn't play in it.

Does Shyatt really refuse post-season play for Larry Nance in his senior year?
That may be the way he pisses off the Nance family and ensures ZERO chance at the younger Nance.

The Nance's are probably a good reason why we SHOULDN'T go to the CBI. I guarantee Nance and his family don't give 2 shits about the CBI and would only see it as a pointless opportunity for him to get hurt before going pro.
 
"We live at an awesome point in time where everyone can communicate freely - but nobody knows how to speak or to listen." - WyoBrandX

Bingo, and for fans of the University of Wyoming add the ability to keep their emotions in check.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
"We live at an awesome point in time where everyone can communicate freely - but nobody knows how to speak or to listen." - WyoBrandX

Bingo, and for fans of the "insert any university fan base here" add the ability to keep their emotions in check.

:rofl:

Not sure why the dig on just UW fans specifically? UW is quite mild compared to most.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
"We live at an awesome point in time where everyone can communicate freely - but nobody knows how to speak or to listen." - WyoBrandX

Bingo, and for fans of the University of Wyoming add the ability to keep their emotions in check.


"Shut up!!! Loser pants! You don't know us!"

I agree.
 
CowboyNV said:
MrTitleist said:
Don't you have to buy your way into the CBI? If so, that's the reason we shouldn't play in it.

In 2012, each host school had to give the CBI a ticket guarantee of $35,000 for first-round games, $50,000 for the quarterfinals and $75,000 per game for the semifinals and the best-of-three finals. I'm sure the costs are at least the same in 2015, so that would mean the Pokes would have to pony up $35,000 just to host the first game. The gate and concessions would offset some of the $35,000, but I don't see any value in paying to play in this tourney. Sorry, I just don't.

Especially a tournament the players or fans don't care about.
 

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