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SDSU @ 25Wyoming

CowboyNV said:
Wyoming simply did not match the intensity level of SDSU. The kids were busy reading the nice comments in the press/Internet and forgot that top 25 rating means shit if you can't back it up.
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I highly doubt that is what happened. That sounds like "fans" that were getting all fuzzy with warm comments only to feel stepped on after a tough loss. We competed and lost to a legit opponent. Had this been a 17 point loss to South Dakota at home (first game of the year during Schroyer era), that would our team not backing shit up.
We played we competed, we got beat. It happens. Ask Duke, or Kansa, with their two blowout losses this year? And yet our worst loss is a 13 point road loss to a legit SMU team. I'd say we're still okay, unless we go on a massive losing streak. And if that happens then you can complain.
So we lost to who is probably one of the best teams in the league. Oh No! Let's dust ourselves off (even the fans that fell flat on tier face after this one) and start cheering for another winning streak. One loss to SDSU may take us out of the top 25 this week, but it doesn't kill our chances at finishing in the top 25.
 
LanderPoke said:
WestWYOPoke said:
Oh bullshit, the refs aren't that bad, we are playing like shit. That offensive call against Adams was spot on, I called it before the ref did.
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Mr. Knight disagrees with you. That was a weak-ass call on Adams there. and they did not give him an and 1.
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That call was one of the easiest calls made all night. Obvious push-off. Will be called 100% of the time. Bob Knight should never be considered a voice of reason, haha.

I agree with the And1, but even that was close. I can see why they called it on the ground.

Bottom line, blaming the refs is absurd. Grab a damn rebound from time to time, pass the ball in before 5 seconds, and hold on to the ball when you have wide open dunks and things are a little different.

Definitely not the end of the world. Losing a tough game in basketball is not the same as losing a tough game in football.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
LanderPoke said:
WestWYOPoke said:
Oh bullshit, the refs aren't that bad, we are playing like shit. That offensive call against Adams was spot on, I called it before the ref did.
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Mr. Knight disagrees with you. That was a weak-ass call on Adams there. and they did not give him an and 1.
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Definitely not the end of the world. Losing a tough game in basketball is not the same as losing a tough game in football.
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It is when your SOS gives you no margin to work with. Any home loss, even to one of the two best teams in our schedule, pretty much ends our at-large hopes (unless we win in SD, which is highly unlikely).

This loss doesn't make the Pokes a bad team, but it does make them a NIT team. That is the disappointment.
 
Had to record the game and just got done watching it. Damn that is a rough loss. We totally did get outplayed by a solid team. Waaayyyyyyyyyyy to careless with the ball on a ton of offensive possessions. San diego OWNED the paint too. Combo that up with them shooting hotter then usual from 3's and ft's. Pretty much a recipe for disaster. Why didn't we try to feed Nance more down low early?

Ugggghhhhh it stings to lose our momentum to a rival and to get cracked at the dome of doom tonight. Crowd was pretty good. Loved how silent it got for "silent splash" Grabau at the line lol. I thought Herndon had a pretty rock solid game for himself. He's looking like he can get a little better each game which is what we need. Still 0 bench points :thumbdown: That's just not gonna work. We need at least one 3 out of Herndon and McManamen in games like this if not every game.

San Diego St looks good. We're really gonna need to regroup and get wins against the other teams. We can beat SDSU but we're gonna have to play a hell of a lot better then that. We can play better then that though and will.
 
Us being unable to get boards against SDSU isn't anything new. Remember this is a team in the past that has absolutely murdered us on the boards before. I have nightmares of them just throwing the ball off the backboard then another one of them just goes gets it does the same, then again, and again until they score. Are those nightmares or real life classics burned into my brain? These dudes always play above the rim and I'm still jealous of that. Always will be. Fuckers....please send us one of your post players.

Signed
A Wyoming Fan

P.S.
We actually did better on the glass this year against these guys then usual. When are we going to have 3 post players that eat up boards and get some easy put backs?
 
Amazing how quick some people are to turn on this team. It was only one loss, and the Pokes are still atop the Mountain West (just not by themselves anymore).

This season is far from over, and it would be a shame to see people jumping off the bandwagon so quickly.
 
I don't get all this sky is falling stuff about how we aren't a tourney team and whatever. BS right now. Conference season is not even half over. WYO just lost to a pretty darn good team.

I do know one thing for sure: the number of times I noticed our offense with five guys outside the arc at any given time is crazy. We have one of the best interior players around and we aren't focused on pounding it in to him. I KNOW they know better than I do, but I just can't wrap my head around this offense at times.
 
NDPokes said:
I don't get all this sky is falling stuff about how we aren't a tourney team and whatever. BS right now. Conference season is not even half over. WYO just lost to a pretty darn good team.

I do know one thing for sure: the number of times I noticed our offense with five guys outside the arc at any given time is crazy. We have one of the best interior players around and we aren't focused on pounding it in to him. I KNOW they know better than I do, but I just can't wrap my head around this offense at times.
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As was already stated in this thread, our SOS gives us literally zero margin for error, losing a game at home, even to SDSU is a back breaker in terms of at large hopes. Yes, if Wyo goes on the road and is able to say win 6 of its final 7 road games then this loss won't be as bad, but the team I watched last night (and for most of our road games this season) isn't going on the road and winning games in places like the Pit, Vejas or other locations.
 
Our at-large hopes were pretty far-fetched to begin with. We should have known from the beginning that our fate lies with the tournament
 
Cosmic Cowboy said:
Had to record the game and just got done watching it. Damn that is a rough loss. We totally did get outplayed by a solid team. Waaayyyyyyyyyyy to careless with the ball on a ton of offensive possessions. San diego OWNED the paint too. Combo that up with them shooting hotter then usual from 3's and ft's. Pretty much a recipe for disaster. Why didn't we try to feed Nance more down low early?
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There was a reason they shot better from 3 than usual, it wasn't happenstance. We had poor rotation & didn't contest them. Especially during that stretch that put them up by 10.
 
I still feel good about his team, after the decade Wyoming bball has been through I'm not too upset about sitting at three losses right now.
That said, I do feel like we were exposed. There's no way we're a top 25 team. Barely top 50 and same with the rest of the MWC. We might pick up a win at home against a ranked opponent one out of three games but this is a team that could go far in the NIT, and that's it. Still huge progress from a few years ago, but we're not there yet. 2 good players and 1 maybe 2 really good players does not make a "great" team no matter how outstanding the coaching.
 
1 game doesn't define our season by far, but there was some cause for a bit of concern, our team has a tendency of standing around way too much, the lack of picks and screens trying to get someone open for an easier shot has me concerned. Larry is awesome but he can't do it alone, especially once other teams learn that as well. Riley and Josh need to go to the hole more and if nothing else get some of these bigs in foul trouble, we do seem to win better if we get to the line. Hankerson and McManamen need to be factors and take the easier 2, not always a 3. Herndon's getting there but hope he's learning on the fly and DC, man oh man, you can't come out 2 monster dunks and then disappear, keep your head in the whole game and do the little things to help others be productive. We have to start taking more 2 point shots as well if they are there....blah...blah...blah
Sure I'm a bit disappointed but overall it's only 1 game and we really need to learn from this as we had our opporunity last night as well, but it's when we look like a team that we get our best results. I do get tired of watching our team stand around and Larry watch, yes he's awesome but he needs help too.
It's only 1 game and it's still early but we truly need to come together know we can win on the road and get one for the first time in Fresno as they aren't a slouch neither. WE got this just need to tweak a few things, make adjustments and learn from this and try some different things to have a better result.....Cmon Pokes and Pokes fans the sky's not falling....yet...lol
 
This one truly got away from us by us being one dimensional, we gotta get our 1st in Fresno saturday and show those prima donnas they don't belong.
 
Not sure what game some of the posters were watching.... Nance takes a few early outside shots with the shot clock running out and doesn't draw iron. Grabau misses a few and then is afraid to shoot. Adams had a poor shooting game.

This wasn't Boise st. They have real shot blockers and real defenders. We can't just force it inside and expect to draw fouls and get great looks. More often than not, were going to be eating leather. Against a team like this, we have to make a few outside shots and make them come play us. Otherwise, Nance is not going to have any room to maneuver inside. Nance himself is a poor outside shooter so he can't draw the defense out. It's real simple: shoot better.
 
The biggest thing I saw last night, Larry cannot do it by himself. He played a great game but little help around him. Grabau and Adams need to hit some perimeter shots to open up the offense. Larry will see a lot more double teams until we can bury some jumpers away from him. Cooke needs to show up more than the first 3 minutes of the game. After his first two dunks, he flat out disappeared along with his hands. Catch the damn ball!
Our bench is right at horrible or at least lacking any confidence. Herndon and McManamen hardly looked at the basket. These guys need to shoot the ball when they are open. Too much playing scared last night.
Riley and Hank should keep to the perimeter when we play anyone the size of SDSU. How many times are they going to drive and get their shot put right back into their face?! Neither has the hops to penetrate and score.
I would like to see us use some full court pressure during the game instead of only the last 2 minutes when the game is out of reach. Pressing might change the pace and momentum, seemed to be fairly effective when we did use it.
Got to win on Saturday or we will be looking at the CBI again.
 
The thing that killed us last night more than anything was exactly what we thought would burn us eventually: turnovers. We had a TON of unforced turnovers last night. The ones that stood out the worst were Larry's 5 second calls. For one of the better players in the country those were extremely bone headed mistakes.
 
I don't think it's necessarily time to panic. I know we didn't have our best game out there but don't get too high after a win or too low after a loss. We still lead them in the standings, just need to take care of business this weekend.
 
Someone else mentioned that there are too many times all five players are outside the arc on offense. I've noticed that also, especially during the past two games. I hate to admit it, but there are times this year's team is starting to look like a Benny Dees coached team. People standing around outside the arc with no one cutting down low or setting picks.

I want to give Shyatt the benefit of the doubt, because I have seen times where the ball gets reversed around the perimeter for 20-30 seconds and someone cuts backdoor and his tired defender loses him and we get an easy dunk underneath. I just haven't been seeing that result as much lately. I have to wonder if its because we're playing better competition now, or teams have seen it on film and are now defending it better. Maybe a little bit of both.
 
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