Porter Gustin

[WestWYOPoke]

Yeah, word of mouth helps a lot.

Which is why I think landing Overstreet could be HUGE for us for the next year or two regardless of how he plays.
"Hey Bobby, come play at UW, you know we signed a Parade All-American last year, he loves it in Laramie. We go after only the best here."

 

[WyoExpat]

Honestly Beav, that scenario may not be a very good one, since DC NEVER developed the players himself. And if they could not immediately contribute, they were ignored MORE. For example, under DC, we had some incredibly TERRIBLE o-lines. Bohl came in, and with largely the same players, we saw them become considerably better in all aspects.

Doesn't matter, a Texas All-State Christensen team in the MWC would do a hell of a lot better than a Wyo shrine bowl team coached by Bohl in the MWC.

I know Bohl is the better developer.

But I also know that who you are getting to come play for you also matters.

Bohls shrine bowl team would be significantly better that 5th year than they were year 1, while DCs Texas All-Star team might only be slightly better than they were year 1, but DCs Texas All-Star team would still be better than Bohl's shrine bowl team.

DC's team would look promising the first couple of games, and then defensive coordinators would realize he doesn't make adjustments and would shut them down. And since the players are never developed once here, they would be outpaced by teams that are developed. We learned that the hard way against teams like freaking UTSA where our o-line was pushed back constantly.

Yet they would still be better than the Shrine Bowl team. Vince Lombardi and Nick Saban could try their hardest with no talent and still lose.

The problem here is the premise that Wyoming = "No talent." The issue in Wyoming is that there are not as many high-end talents. Wyoming does not typically go 25 deep with FBS potential. However, the mere fact that a player played in Wyoming does not automatically mean that he has no FBS potential.

 

[WyoExpat]

Did anyone watch him play today in the Army All American game. What a freak. Not a chance of him coming to Laramie. 0. Nada.

Shocker. A 5 star LB isn't even considering Wyo.

His dad was my classmate at U.W.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

The problem here is the premise that Wyoming = "No talent." The issue in Wyoming is that there are not as many high-end talents. Wyoming does not typically go 25 deep with FBS potential. However, the mere fact that a player played in Wyoming does not automatically mean that he has no FBS potential.

Beaver isn't wrong. Even on a per capita basis, WYO (and many northern states) don't produce near the talent southern states do. If you take the entire Shrine Bowl team, as Beaver suggested, the chance of having 1 with FBS talent is probably pretty good. The likelihood of having 2 isn't out of the realm of possibility. 3 or more? The odds drop precipitously.

If you take the Texas equivalent to the Shrine Bowl, odds are that every player has FBS potential.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

I was curious about the actual numbers on this. While I couldn't find an updated Texas All-Star game roster, and it appears that most of the top players don't participate in those games anyway, I looked at one of the All-State rosters.

This is the breakdown of schools committed to for the 2014 Texas 6A All-State football roster:

Missouri Science & Technology
Hardin Simmons
New Mexico State
Louisiana Tech
Air Force
Arizona
UCLA
Baylor
TCU
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
LSU
Texas - 2
Texas A&M - 4

Unknown - 6

Now that is only 1 of the state's 6 classes, albeit the highest class.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Found some interesting stuff researching this too. For example, Desoto High School had 15 players sign to play college football at some level, 6 of which were to FBS schools! That's just ONE high school.

Also found one player that supposedly used a coin toss to decide between Texas and Washington...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ses-coin-flip-to-choose-texas-over-washington

 

[LanderPoke]

Just look at the ESPN 300. Like 90% are from the south/Texas/California. That's where the best athletes are and it's not surprising when you consider the culture and demographics.