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Plans to sell naming rights of the AA and War? Thoughts?

ragtimejoe1 said:
I don't know many that thought TCU or Utah would have been worse off for joining a power conference. Definitely byu and independence but church money kept them relevant until the big 12 invite.

It's been 3 decades or so since we were competitive against that trio. Soon, incoming Freshman have no concept of ever really playing them much. To be bogged down in worrying about the level these play it is, well, up to personal opinion I guess. Foolish to me, but that's just me. I want UW to maximize our potential and be competitive with what's available to us. We haven't done that in 30+ years.

Bsu? Let's see how all this shakes out in fbs. I think it's clear there will be at least 2 levels or maybe 3. We'll be in the bottom level of whatever transpires in that split. Who will be with us? Anyone's guess. Do we fold the football program because the opponents aren't enticing or do we try like hell to win the hand we're dealt?
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What they will do and what I want to have happen are two different things. My Wyoming fan-dom was born in the late 80s and that is the standard I have and want for UW. Want to go down to some FCS equivalent? That is fine...I'll take my fan support elsewhere. I'm not excited about the prospect of hammering on NMSU, Idaho and others like that (particularly since it's just as likely we will be the one getting hammered). No amount of talk about the level that is "available" to us will help that. That's loser talk.

For a group with an average age as high as I think it is, there is a lot of recency bias here. Doesn't anybody remember what it was like to have a legitimately great team?

Question for you Ragtime...do you have any feelings about how much better than us the BYU football program is?
 
rocket city poke said:
UW is late to the game on this, just like UW was late to the game on the NIL, UW is always behind everybody else. I am not sure there is any revenue source that UW has had a "novel approach" on -- unless you count being first in the budget bill at the legislature. Other than that UW is not much on innovation with regards to revenue streams.
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Being conservative nets conservative results.
 
Douglaspoke said:
"My Wyoming fan-dom was born in the late 80s "

My fandon is from the 60s and Wyoming was a national power....Even when Fred Akers came in 1975 he knew he was walking into a former powerhouse school and in 1976 had us back in the top 20!
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you and My dad...he used to tell me stories about listening to games on a little radio at hunting camp.
 
307bball said:
What they will do and what I want to have happen are two different things. My Wyoming fan-dom was born in the late 80s and that is the standard I have and want for UW. Want to go down to some FCS equivalent? That is fine...I'll take my fan support elsewhere. I'm not excited about the prospect of hammering on NMSU, Idaho and others like that (particularly since it's just as likely we will be the one getting hammered). No amount of talk about the level that is "available" to us will help that. That's loser talk.

For a group with an average age as high as I think it is, there is a lot of recency bias here. Doesn't anybody remember what it was like to have a legitimately great team?

Question for you Ragtime...do you have any feelings about how much better than us the BYU football program is?
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Not really. Wealthy church. Wealthy school. Factors that helped attendance, money, etc

Level available to us is loser talk? Not really. We aren't an Ivy League either. Doesn't mean the degree is piss poor. The goal is be the best you can be in the system or situation you're in. Maximize and improve as much as you can.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Not really. Wealthy church. Wealthy school. Factors that helped attendance, money, etc

Level available to us is loser talk? Not really. We aren't an Ivy League either. Doesn't mean the degree is piss poor. The goal is be the best you can be in the system or situation you're in. Maximize and improve as much as you can.
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Well....this gets to a temperamental difference between you and I (I think). I probably worded the question wrong though. It really galls me that we suck in comparison to them specifically. All the external factors that you point out are true and they don't make me feel any better.

The whole "level available to us" is a cope. Wyoming athletics used to be something. There was something to feel good about and take pride in. There is something in winning and excelling at an FCS like level that is worth having pride in...no doubt...but until the generation that remembers Wyoming having actual excellence dies out, watered down bowl appearances and CBI championships will always be compared to something better and be found wanting.

I think I've just hit my limit with this stuff. I've finally come to realize that Wyoming will never be within sniffing distance of what it used to be. The thing that kills me is I don't even get to blame Burman or the BoT or whoever...it was decided by forces bigger than all of those people. I get it....I'm having a tantrum right now about this. I looooove Wyoming athletics...but this ain't it.
 
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got some superfans out there that would lay down the cashola for naming rights. How does this sound? - Toby Bonner-War Memorial Stadium? A nickname for the stadium would be "the smirk"
 
Well, Taco John’s is out. They moved their headquarters to Minneapolis. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t they only talking about naming rights for just the AA?
 
One of the energy companies that operates in Wyoming should be heavily considered. A good business person would be soliciting offers from them and using this as leverage to drive up the price. That would require boots on the ground and making a concerted effort to get the best deal. I don’t see this happening.
 
Bear Claw said:
One of the energy companies that operates in Wyoming should be heavily considered. A good business person would be soliciting offers from them and using this as leverage to drive up the price. That would require boots on the ground and making a concerted effort to get the best deal. I don’t see this happening.
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How about that new nuclear plant opening in Kemmerer? Terra power stadium - funded by Bill Gates. I hear he has money.
 
Isn't the entire point of buying naming rights to a stadium to get your name mentioned on every schedule and every broadcast involving the stadium that you have bought the naming rights to? Why would the price be higher for a Taco Johns (I know they are not based in Wyoming anymore) or an energy company that does business in Wyoming?

If it's a commodity that many entities want, the value will rise...if not, then whatever singular entity that expresses interest ends up getting it at a low price. We are all spitting into the wind making up numbers here but ultimately, the price will be tied to eyeballs....less eyeballs=less money.

I'm starting to feel like everything related to UW athletics discussion on this board is some kind of diabolical Rorschach test where-in the observer asks some innocuous question or makes a banal observation and everybody on this board sees what they want to in it.
 
307bball said:
We are all spitting into the wind making up numbers here but ultimately, the price will be tied to eyeballs....less eyeballs=less money.
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It isn’t just ‘eyeballs’ that determines the marketing value. It is audience and intangibles too. Just because you have a business, having your name on a college football broadcast may or may not create additional revenue just by virtue of what your business is. College football very definitively has a certain audience.


Intangibles can be ‘additional media marketing’ that occurs purely from the original marketing and media attention. Remember ‘the world needs more cowboys’ and all the free marketing we got because of the uproar as to whether it was sexist and following media coverage? In the intangibles category - an OnlyFans type partner - likely creates quite a bit of additional value.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
It isn’t just ‘eyeballs’ that determines the marketing value. It is audience and intangibles too. Just because you have a business, having your name on a college football broadcast may or may not create additional revenue just by virtue of what your business is. College football very definitively has a certain audience.


Intangibles can be ‘additional media marketing’ that occurs purely from the original marketing and media attention. Remember ‘the world needs more cowboys’ and all the free marketing we got because of the uproar as to whether it was sexist and following media coverage? In the intangibles category - an OnlyFans type partner - likely creates quite a bit of additional value.
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I get what you are saying..but let's imagine a world where it is really valuable to some energy company to buy the naming rights...but nobody else wants them. Why would they overpay? If they can get the rights for X...why pay 2X?
 
307bball said:
I get what you are saying..but let's imagine a world where it is really valuable to some energy company to buy the naming rights...but nobody else wants them. Why would they overpay? If they can get the rights for X...why pay 2X?
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Because no college is making a deal with OnlyFans unless the number is higher. Same can be said for a renewable energy developer in a state like Wyoming where there is political risk to tie your name to that company.

On that topic - NextEra Energy makes sense. They are the largest renewable developer in the country. They have several projects in Wyoming that are facing political backlash. Have them overpay for the rights and let them build the political goodwill they need for their projects to move forward.
 
BTW - this is how many deals are actually struck in the energy industry. ‘You grease my wheels, I’ll grease your wheels.’ Meaning - pay the money for the naming rights and we can probably get Bill and Joe on board in the legislature for the helpful energy development legislation or the county commission might be more welcoming of the project, etc…
 
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