P12 - MWC

[PAPoke]

I would be good with stepping down a tier provided we have a consistently winning team. Think of NDSU or Montana State but with a basketball team like those with Dembo. Leckner, Bailey, Davis Adams etc. .

I'm having a hard time with this parallel right now. NDSU went 21-11 with a loss in the 1st round of their conference tournament. Montana State went 15-18 and lost in the 2nd round of their conference tournament. We can, and have done better than that, while supporting football.

Maybe I'm a contrarian, but even if we eliminated football in favor of basketball, I'm not confident that we'd be able to recruit (read: pay) the right players (and coaches) to make a splash.

In the last 5 years, could we have paid/recruited players away from schools like Creighton, Iowa State, and Iowa? I don't think so.

 

[Cowboy20]

Yes, those numbers do include an 8th football member.

It's not an extravagantly high number, but it is at least 40% higher than what the MWC is likely to get. It also is enough to allow the PAC to offset any poaching penalties they have to pay the MWC over a relatively short period of time.

It's all kind of a wash for the next 5-10 years...but the PAC will be in a much better position than the MWC if we start to look out 10+ years.

The pac will not exist in 5-10 years. Once Boise finally finds their pot of luck at the end of a rainbow, there’s nobody left with a brand that anyone outside of the western region cares about nationally. Sorry Wazzu and OSU, you aren’t that. Regardless of a million or two differences between us and them, we’re all just group of 6 conferences fighting for one spot to compete in a playoff. No different from how we’ve already been grappling with that spot with the AAC. The advantage for the new MWC might be similar to the AAC’s recent success. The champion is usually pretty separated from the pack and runs the table. Win a couple of out of conference games against P4 teams, and you’re in the driver’s seat.
Again, winning cures a lot. Last year was hopefully an anomaly and won’t happen again.

 

[LanderPoke]

The pac will not exist in 5-10 years. Once Boise finally finds their pot of luck at the end of a rainbow, there’s nobody left with a brand that anyone outside of the western region cares about nationally. Sorry Wazzu and OSU, you aren’t that. Regardless of a million or two differences between us and them, we’re all just group of 6 conferences fighting for one spot to compete in a playoff. No different from how we’ve already been grappling with that spot with the AAC. The advantage for the new MWC might be similar to the AAC’s recent success. The champion is usually pretty separated from the pack and runs the table. Win a couple of out of conference games against P4 teams, and you’re in the driver’s seat.
Again, winning cures a lot. Last year was hopefully an anomaly and won’t happen again.

Yup. . There is no difference between us and them once Boise leaves

 

[Wyokie]

The pac will not exist in 5-10 years. Once Boise finally finds their pot of luck at the end of a rainbow, there’s nobody left with a brand that anyone outside of the western region cares about nationally. Sorry Wazzu and OSU, you aren’t that. Regardless of a million or two differences between us and them, we’re all just group of 6 conferences fighting for one spot to compete in a playoff. No different from how we’ve already been grappling with that spot with the AAC. The advantage for the new MWC might be similar to the AAC’s recent success. The champion is usually pretty separated from the pack and runs the table. Win a couple of out of conference games against P4 teams, and you’re in the driver’s seat.
Again, winning cures a lot. Last year was hopefully an anomaly and won’t happen again.

Hence, my belief we'll see the Benedict 5 back on our conference schedules except for the Smurfs and probably Oregon State. BTW, should I end up being right, I do think Gonzaga either ends up back in the West Coast Conference or does something really stupid and joins the Big East.

 

[Brew_Poke]

We talk a lot about Boise State (me included) as an example of a small market school that built upon a string of successes allowing them to build a national brand and "move up" as much as is possible in the college football world that exists today.

Do we know, or have any educated guesses, as to how they did it? Did they have unusually high support for the football/athletic program in the administrative department? Did they pay their coaches top of the league salaries? Was the state of Idaho helping fund the Boise State athletics department at a high level? Did they figure out a formula to find an unusually high amount of talented athletes that were being overlooked?

Now NFL team between Denver and Seattle gave them more than just college football fans. When they won a lot, tons of locals jumped on the bandwagon.