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Neyor Enters Transfer Portal

Hearing through some buddies that Neyor is headed to Nevada. Not sure if there is any truth to it or not, but if it is what the hell happened to push him there of all places…
 
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.
 
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Will it? Have you seen our recent scheduling!?!? (Akron, UTEP, the entire MAC, everyone but identifiable programs). Does the average fan distinguish between Western Michigan and Northern Iowa as far as opponent? Does the Potato Bowl have more appeal than a home FCS playoff game?

My answers - I bet about 5% of Wyoming fans could even identify that Northern Iowa and Western Michigan are in different divisions. I believe that Montana State’s upcoming game is a helluva lot more exciting for the fan base than our Kent State game and attendance will show it.

I know that this sounds virtually identical to SDPoke years ago and for which I blasted him. But - - Times have forever changed. NIL has completely changed the equation. Realistically, it is impossible for virtually the entire MWC to compete with programs the average fan can identify because Wyoming doesn’t have the market to offer the crazy NIL dollars floating around.

Give me a more regional game against Montana State or South Dakota State everyday over the Akron Zips. Be honest with yourself - - did you have any clue that the Zips mascot is a kangaroo?
 
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Oh - I was looking to get a ticket to the FCS championship game…the cheapest is $450 running up to $1500. Certainly no one cares about FCS. Remind me, what were tickets going for in the potato bowl and how difficult were potato bowl tickets to come by?

https://tix.axs.com/sWjeOgAAAACiIJpzAgAAAAAT%2Fv%2F%2F%2FwD%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FBG5jYWEA%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F8%3D/shop/search?utm_source=ncaaticket.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=FCS&utm_content=Home_Page_Carouse
 
I know most people are wishing these kids luck, but my family taught me to finish what I started. Different generation now, I guess.
 
J-Bone said:
I know most people are wishing these kids luck, but my family taught me to finish what I started. Different generation now, I guess.

My family did too. But they also taught me to make wise financial decisions. I can’t blame any player leaving for an ability to cash in on their talents. You’re just not going to get any big NIL money in a market like Wyoming. How many of us are going to turn down job opportunities that drastically increase our salaries?
 
OrediggerPoke said:
J-Bone said:
I know most people are wishing these kids luck, but my family taught me to finish what I started. Different generation now, I guess.

My family did too. But they also taught me to make wise financial decisions. I can’t blame any player leaving for an ability to cash in on their talents. You’re just not going to get any big NIL money in a market like Wyoming. How many of us are going to turn down job opportunities that drastically increase our salaries?

The problem is that NIL isn't players monetizing their popularity. It's a way for boosters to funnel money to the program. No way this can keep going forever. I'd be surprised if Neyor makes much more in NIL if he makes a move to another G5 program. If he jumps to an Autonomous 5 program then maybe.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
J-Bone said:
I know most people are wishing these kids luck, but my family taught me to finish what I started. Different generation now, I guess.

My family did too. But they also taught me to make wise financial decisions. I can’t blame any player leaving for an ability to cash in on their talents. You’re just not going to get any big NIL money in a market like Wyoming. How many of us are going to turn down job opportunities that drastically increase our salaries?

dp
 
I think FCS could happen some day. But a different FCS. Perhaps a better FCS, where maybe the top 8 go for the title, and the rest go for bowl games. The lesser folk will gain audience as everyone gets tired of rooting against Alabama every year.

I agree with some of you that since I attended UW in the late 80s, FCS should be a sin, and I would never go to a game again. But I was at the Vegas Bowl in 2004. I was at the Pit in 2002. And I love that we are in bowl games, I really do. But the excitement is not there any more. Competing for a tier 2 national championship, where players are payed less than 6 figures per year, may be where we could compete. Wyoming is not an economic power. The weather sucks. Some fans are great, and some suck. It is what it is.
 
flyfishwyo said:
OrediggerPoke said:
J-Bone said:
I know most people are wishing these kids luck, but my family taught me to finish what I started. Different generation now, I guess.

My family did too. But they also taught me to make wise financial decisions. I can’t blame any player leaving for an ability to cash in on their talents. You’re just not going to get any big NIL money in a market like Wyoming. How many of us are going to turn down job opportunities that drastically increase our salaries?

The problem is that NIL isn't players monetizing their popularity. It's a way for boosters to funnel money to the program. No way this can keep going forever. I'd be surprised if Neyor makes much more in NIL if he makes a move to another G5 program. If he jumps to an Autonomous 5 program then maybe.

Neyor will get paid. No doubt in my mind. He is a free agent right now and programs have free access to let him know what he could make should he choose certain schools.

This NIL is sustainable for the big programs because college football in some places brings in more total revenues than professional teams (when you look at merchandising, media dollars, etc…). In a place like Ohio for instance, Ohio State football is everything. The marketing power of premier athletes is insane. Top college athletes bring in instant name recognition and companies now have free and unfettered access to exploit the marketing potential. NIL is at the tip of the iceberg of what it is likely to become (not the other way around).
 
OrediggerPoke said:
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Will it? Have you seen our recent scheduling!?!? (Akron, UTEP, the entire MAC, everyone but identifiable programs). Does the average fan distinguish between Western Michigan and Northern Iowa as far as opponent? Does the Potato Bowl have more appeal than a home FCS playoff game?

My answers - I bet about 5% of Wyoming fans could even identify that Northern Iowa and Western Michigan are in different divisions. I believe that Montana State’s upcoming game is a helluva lot more exciting for the fan base than our Kent State game and attendance will show it.

I know that this sounds virtually identical to SDPoke years ago and for which I blasted him. But - - Times have forever changed. NIL has completely changed the equation. Realistically, it is impossible for virtually the entire MWC to compete with programs the average fan can identify because Wyoming doesn’t have the market to offer the crazy NIL dollars floating around.

Give me a more regional game against Montana State or South Dakota State everyday over the Akron Zips. Be honest with yourself - - did you have any clue that the Zips mascot is a kangaroo?

My mom went to Akron U.. My uncle went to Kent st.. So I'm somewhat familiar with the smaller midwest schools. Although Akron has 20k students. Your arguments are sound. But I can't wrap my head around it. I've never watched even 20 minutes of a FCS game. I would bet every casino and bar had our game on the other day. The prestige of even a minor bowl is better than an FCS game, imo. But the writing seems to be on the wall.
So, if we go FCS in football, do we also go in basketball? This transfer situation is going to be just as lethal for our BB team. We really missed Williams yesterday. We simply don't have a point guard. Will Ike stay? I think it will be an untenable situation when coaches and fans wonder if players are going to stay or not. You can't build a program that way. I really feel for Linder. He's recruited well. He 's a fine coach. And these rules will destroy what he 's trying to build.
 
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Will it? Have you seen our recent scheduling!?!? (Akron, UTEP, the entire MAC, everyone but identifiable programs). Does the average fan distinguish between Western Michigan and Northern Iowa as far as opponent? Does the Potato Bowl have more appeal than a home FCS playoff game?

My answers - I bet about 5% of Wyoming fans could even identify that Northern Iowa and Western Michigan are in different divisions. I believe that Montana State’s upcoming game is a helluva lot more exciting for the fan base than our Kent State game and attendance will show it.

I know that this sounds virtually identical to SDPoke years ago and for which I blasted him. But - - Times have forever changed. NIL has completely changed the equation. Realistically, it is impossible for virtually the entire MWC to compete with programs the average fan can identify because Wyoming doesn’t have the market to offer the crazy NIL dollars floating around.

Give me a more regional game against Montana State or South Dakota State everyday over the Akron Zips. Be honest with yourself - - did you have any clue that the Zips mascot is a kangaroo?

My mom went to Akron U.. My uncle went to Kent st.. So I'm somewhat familiar with the smaller midwest schools. Although Akron has 20k students. Your arguments are sound. But I can't wrap my head around it. I've never watched even 20 minutes of a FCS game. I would bet every casino and bar had our game on the other day. The prestige of even a minor bowl is better than an FCS game, imo. But the writing seems to be on the wall.
So, if we go FCS in football, do we also go in basketball? This transfer situation is going to be just as lethal for our BB team. We really missed Williams yesterday. We simply don't have a point guard. Will Ike stay? I think it will be an untenable situation when coaches and fans wonder if players are going to stay or not. You can't build a program that way. I really feel for Linder. He's recruited well. He 's a fine coach. And these rules will destroy what he 's trying to build.

There is no such thing as FCS in basketball. It is all division 1. Montana is in the same division as Wyoming in every sport but football.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Will it? Have you seen our recent scheduling!?!? (Akron, UTEP, the entire MAC, everyone but identifiable programs). Does the average fan distinguish between Western Michigan and Northern Iowa as far as opponent? Does the Potato Bowl have more appeal than a home FCS playoff game?

My answers - I bet about 5% of Wyoming fans could even identify that Northern Iowa and Western Michigan are in different divisions. I believe that Montana State’s upcoming game is a helluva lot more exciting for the fan base than our Kent State game and attendance will show it.

I know that this sounds virtually identical to SDPoke years ago and for which I blasted him. But - - Times have forever changed. NIL has completely changed the equation. Realistically, it is impossible for virtually the entire MWC to compete with programs the average fan can identify because Wyoming doesn’t have the market to offer the crazy NIL dollars floating around.

Give me a more regional game against Montana State or South Dakota State everyday over the Akron Zips. Be honest with yourself - - did you have any clue that the Zips mascot is a kangaroo?

My mom went to Akron U.. My uncle went to Kent st.. So I'm somewhat familiar with the smaller midwest schools. Although Akron has 20k students. Your arguments are sound. But I can't wrap my head around it. I've never watched even 20 minutes of a FCS game. I would bet every casino and bar had our game on the other day. The prestige of even a minor bowl is better than an FCS game, imo. But the writing seems to be on the wall.
So, if we go FCS in football, do we also go in basketball? This transfer situation is going to be just as lethal for our BB team. We really missed Williams yesterday. We simply don't have a point guard. Will Ike stay? I think it will be an untenable situation when coaches and fans wonder if players are going to stay or not. You can't build a program that way. I really feel for Linder. He's recruited well. He 's a fine coach. And these rules will destroy what he 's trying to build.

There is no such thing as FCS in basketball. It is all division 1. Montana is in the same division as Wyoming in every sport but football.

True...but his point holds. This stuff will kill basketball competitiveness just as fast as football competitiveness.
 
jtstu53 said:
Hearing through some buddies that Neyor is headed to Nevada. Not sure if there is any truth to it or not, but if it is what the hell happened to push him there of all places…

No. He has offers already from Baylor, USC, Tenn, etc.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
bladerunnr said:
OrediggerPoke said:
laxwyo said:
I actually think we should go to fcs now. In fact, most of the MWC should too

I never thought I’d agree with SDPoke but I agree with this. FCS schools will likely have more stability with players and we can look forward to playoffs and competing. Not a system where we are a minor league for teams in the same league.

No. Never. If we drop to FCS, fan interest will plummet. National FCS champion is like being the world's tallest midget. No one cares.

Oh - I was looking to get a ticket to the FCS championship game…the cheapest is $450 running up to $1500. Certainly no one cares about FCS. Remind me, what were tickets going for in the potato bowl and how difficult were potato bowl tickets to come by?

https://tix.axs.com/sWjeOgAAAACiIJpzAgAAAAAT%2Fv%2F%2F%2FwD%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FBG5jYWEA%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F8%3D/shop/search?utm_source=ncaaticket.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=FCS&utm_content=Home_Page_Carouse

That’s a ridiculous comparison though. Pokes were basically the 10th best team in the MWC, why would there be interest in that game?

If we could drop to FCS and be James Madison or NDSU that would be great, but more likely we would be Idaho.
 
Even as an FCS we can still schedule CSU and Oregon. Hell, maybe we’d beat CSU more than they beat CU.
 
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