MWC Hoops

[stymeman]

all the faves won last night, maybe we'll see a different scenario on saturday to help shake things up even more, 4 more and can't wait for the Tourney to start, this is gonna be fun

 

[POKE FAN]

MWC Through Wednesday (2/18/15):

SDSU 11-3
WYO 10-4
BSU 9-4
CSU 9-5
USU 8-5
FSU 7-6
UNM 6-8
UNLV 5-8
AFA 5-9
Nev 4-9
SJSU 0-13

Brandenburg Standings:

MWC (+1 road win/-1 home loss):

SDSU +4
WYO +3
BSU +3
CSU +2
USU +2
FSU 0
UNM -1
UNLV -2
AFA -2
Nev -3
SJSU -6

 

[POKE FAN]

MWC RPI (2/19/15):

SDSU - 18
CSU - 26
BSU - 36
WYO - 79

 

[POKE FAN]

Current lines for Saturday (2/21/15):

Nev (+14.0) @ BSU
AFA (+13.0) @ CS-ewe
UNLV (+3.5) @ UNM
FSU (+7.0) @ USU
SDSU (-23.0) @ SJSU

Not much in the way of potential help for the Pokes this weekend.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Current lines for Saturday (2/21/15):

Nev (+14.0) @ BSU
AFA (+13.0) @ CS-ewe
UNLV (+3.5) @ UNM
FSU (+7.0) @ USU
SDSU (-23.0) @ SJSU

Not much in the way of potential help for the Pokes this weekend.

Not in terms of standings, but in terms of getting healthy, that is the biggest key for the Pokes this weekend.

 

[wyopig]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

 

[POKE FAN]

 

[seattlecowboy]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

 

[BeaverPoke]

Lunardi has Boise in first 4 out.

 

[POKE FAN]

MWC RPI (2/22/15):

SDSU 24
CSU 26
BSU 40
WYO 77

* SDSU dropped from 18 to 24 with its 18-point win over SJSU

 

[POKE FAN]

Current MWC Standings (2/21/15):

SDSU 12-3
WYO 10-4
BSU 10-4
CSU 10-5
USU 9-5
FSU 7-7
UNLV 6-8
UNM 6-9
AFA 5-10
Nev 4-10
SJSU 0-14

 

[TSpoke]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

Yeah thanks for looking that up. I hadn't checked it yet but thought because we only played BSU one time that we may be at a disadvantage. Looks like that is the case. I think BSU will lose to SDSU anyways but whether we end up 2 or 3 doesn't matter really as we will have to play Boise St. in the semi's either way. What it will effect though is if we play either Fresno St. or UNLV in the first game.

 

[POKE FAN]

Overall Standings:

 

[BeaverPoke]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

Yeah thanks for looking that up. I hadn't checked it yet but thought because we only played BSU one time that we may be at a disadvantage. Looks like that is the case. I think BSU will lose to SDSU anyways but whether we end up 2 or 3 doesn't matter really as we will have to play Boise St. in the semi's either way. What it will effect though is if we play either Fresno St. or UNLV in the first game.

Playing Boise once isnt the disadvantage, losing to SDSU twice is.

And we own head to head vs Boise so if SDSU wins outright and us and Boise are tied we get the 2. If its a 3 way tie Boise gets the 1, sdsu the 2, wyo the 3. Meaning we wouldnt play Boise til finals but would play sdsu in semis.

 

[TSpoke]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

Yeah thanks for looking that up. I hadn't checked it yet but thought because we only played BSU one time that we may be at a disadvantage. Looks like that is the case. I think BSU will lose to SDSU anyways but whether we end up 2 or 3 doesn't matter really as we will have to play Boise St. in the semi's either way. What it will effect though is if we play either Fresno St. or UNLV in the first game.

Agreed there isn't much difference between 2 and 3 seed. It also depends on where the lower teams end up on what our matchup would be. Actually I guess there is one fairly big difference. With the 2 seed we would be playing a team that played the day befroe while the 3 seed plays the 6th seed bot hin their first game. So I think I would rather play a team that has played a game the day before but on the other hand they have already gotten used to the floor and won a game on it.

 

[wyopig]

Anything can happen down the stretch - including SDSU losing twice - but in the likeliest of scenarios, I think that SDSU will finish outright first, we will finish outright 2nd, and Boise will finish outright 3rd. CSU and Utah State will tie for the 4/5 spot, which will mean that they'll play each other two games in a row.

I still want UNLV to drop a lot of games down the stretch. I'm actually upset that they beat New Mexico at the Pit the other day. I don't care how shitty either team is...playing either one of them will be a nightmare in the first round of the tournament.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

Yeah thanks for looking that up. I hadn't checked it yet but thought because we only played BSU one time that we may be at a disadvantage. Looks like that is the case. I think BSU will lose to SDSU anyways but whether we end up 2 or 3 doesn't matter really as we will have to play Boise St. in the semi's either way. What it will effect though is if we play either Fresno St. or UNLV in the first game.

Playing Boise once isnt the disadvantage, losing to SDSU twice is.

And we own head to head vs Boise so if SDSU wins outright and us and Boise are tied we get the 2. If its a 3 way tie Boise gets the 1, sdsu the 2, wyo the 3. Meaning we wouldnt play Boise til finals but would play sdsu in semis.

Right but in my scenario we would play Boise no matter if we were the 2 or 3 because in my scenario I have SDSU beating BSU in San Diego. I don't think BSU will beat them there. I think SDSU wins the title outright.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Somebody is gonna lose a weird one down the stretch.

I have to say, though, I'm rooting for Wyoming, CSU, and Boise to win out. Not only will all those wins improve our RPI, but we would finish in, at least, a 3-way tie for the MWC Championship and would secure the #2 seed. If that happened, CSU would have a secure seat in the RPI Top 25, and Boise may sneak their way up there as well. It would be nice to boast a 3-3 (or better after the MWC Tournament) record against RPI Top 25 teams going into Selection Sunday.

I am not sure that we would get the #2 seed in that scenario. We may end up with the #1 seed.

They would look at head to head games first and since Boise would have beat SDSU twice and SDSU would have beat us twice and we would have beat Boise the only time we played them I think it would go to the next tie breaker which would be how did those teams do against the next highest team and that would be CSU. We are the only team to beat CSU both times so that would mean we win the tie breaker and get the #1 seed that is if CSU finishes in that spot . (Utah St. still has a chance at this spot)

Unless of course since us playing Boise only one time hurts us compared to SDSU and BSU playing each other twice. Not sure how they figure that part of it when one team that finishes tied at the top only plays one of the other teams one time .

I adressed this in another thread but will comment here as well. I think we would end up with the 3rd seed in htis situation. Looking at the MWC tournament website they have the seeding po;icy and it says if a 3way or more tie it fist looks at the combined recordes of everyone that is tied. BSU would be 2-1, sdsu would be 2-2 and we would be 1-2 so I would think that means BSU would get the first seed as they have a better winning percentage. After that it goes to H2H with the remain teams and we got swept by SDSU so we would be in the 3rd seed.

Yeah thanks for looking that up. I hadn't checked it yet but thought because we only played BSU one time that we may be at a disadvantage. Looks like that is the case. I think BSU will lose to SDSU anyways but whether we end up 2 or 3 doesn't matter really as we will have to play Boise St. in the semi's either way. What it will effect though is if we play either Fresno St. or UNLV in the first game.

Agreed there isn't much difference between 2 and 3 seed. It also depends on where the lower teams end up on what our matchup would be. Actually I guess there is one fairly big difference. With the 2 seed we would be playing a team that played the day befroe while the 3 seed plays the 6th seed bot hin their first game. So I think I would rather play a team that has played a game the day before but on the other hand they have already gotten used to the floor and won a game on it.

Yeah I don't think it matters who plays who this year as every team will probably have their hands full the first game. SDSU as the #1 seed could end up having to play UNLV on their home floor possibly in their first game so i don't think any team this year will be feeling like they are safe the first game out of the chute. More parity in this conference this year than any I can remember for awhile.

 

[POKE FAN]

Would love to see this scenario play out:

Boise goes into SD and edges SDSU on Saturday. Marks and Webb go off from three (could happen). Note: Boise controlled and dominated the first meeting. Still reeling, the Aztecs limp into Vegas and get upset by highly erratic UNLV. Aztecs are, again, miserable on the offensive end.

WYO gets Nance back. Pokes win both home games against FSU and USU. They find a way to get past highly inconsistent UNLV and UNM on the road. Can they do this with a healthy and productive Nance?

Pokes tie Boise for regular season conference title and get the #1 seed by virtue of the head-to-head win. :thumb: