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Mono might be a blessing in disguise.

Cowboy Junky said:
This damn illness did not defeat our team. I think it helped prepare our bench for a big run at the MWC tourney.

We might not even need to win the MWC tourney to make the dance. If we can string together some wins down the stretch we might win the league outright or we might get an at large.

Tonights win was huge. This team has a ton of heart.

Our chances of winning the league outright depend on SDSU dropping two games (2 if we win out, 3 if we lose 1) and them playing at The Pit in ABQ was a great chance for SDSU to drop one. But instead the Aztecs went out and blew New Mexico out at home. Fuck.

Not out of it, but it got a lot harder without NM helping us out tonight.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
This damn illness did not defeat our team. I think it helped prepare our bench for a big run at the MWC tourney.

We might not even need to win the MWC tourney to make the dance. If we can string together some wins down the stretch we might win the league outright or we might get an at large.

Tonights win was huge. This team has a ton of heart.

Don't kid yourself. We can win out and make MW title game and WILL NOT get an at large. It's simply not possible.

It's all on the Mw tournament now, but if they play like they played the 2nd half, anything is possible.
 
calpoke25 said:
Cowboy Junky said:
This damn illness did not defeat our team. I think it helped prepare our bench for a big run at the MWC tourney.

We might not even need to win the MWC tourney to make the dance. If we can string together some wins down the stretch we might win the league outright or we might get an at large.

Tonights win was huge. This team has a ton of heart.

Don't kid yourself. We can win out and make MW title game and WILL NOT get an at large. It's simply not possible.

It's all on the Mw tournament now, but if they play like they played the 2nd half, anything is possible.

You're probably right. Still, it's not impossible for us to win the MWC and it's not impossible for us to get an at large.

The blessing in disquise: the Cowboys had less than eight turnovers the last two games. That's exactly what we needed.
 
You guys are fucking nuts to think if we win out we won't get an at large. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. We probably won't win out or the conference so it's not much to argue about .
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
BeaverPoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
Hankerson shot himself out of the 0fer tonight. Cooke played great. Adams was a stud.

Our bench helped us come back from 14 on the road to Nevada without Nance.

We have depth.

McManamen is awesome off the bench. Herndon is awesome too. Those two along with Adams are making me really stoked about the rest of this season and next.
I am quite nervous for next season because I am looking at it through "Nance" colored glasses. What these last two games have shown is that yes, this team depends on Nance, but when we adjust our game, we adjust our reads, were pretty damn capable in spite of his absence. I am beginning to think that while we will certainly miss Larry, we will be ok. That last 5 minutes was explosive and really freaking fun to watch. Now the key is integrating Larry back into the fold and keep moving forward.

I think Herndon is going to really develop into a very good player at UW. Fluid and skilled for his size. Obviously gets pushed around a lot right now and misses some positioning, etc., but the pieces are there. By the time he is a Junior I think he will be a 13/8 type of guy.

Primary concern next year is who joins him in the frontcourt. A lot more options in the backcourt as Adams returns along with 4 separate players that have seen time for the Pokes (Gorski, McManamen, Lieberman, and Washington) and a JC transfer (Marshall). Not sure exactly how the rotation will shape up, but there is some experience there. The frontcourt will be very green. Only Herndon will have any type of significant playing experience.
 
laxwyo said:
You guys are fucking nuts to think if we win out we won't get an at large. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. We probably won't win out or the conference so it's not much to argue about .

We've been over this many times. The committee has never, ever given an at large bid to a team with a SOS of 180+, which is where we are going to be at. I think winning out would get us back in the topic of discussion but at large chances died a long, long time ago. We would have zero real quality wins and several bad losses. I hope we get to find out, because that means a a strong finish, but at large chances are gone. It's not fucking nuts to realize the committee would never give an at large to a team with our resume.
 
calpoke25 said:
laxwyo said:
You guys are fucking nuts to think if we win out we won't get an at large. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. We probably won't win out or the conference so it's not much to argue about .

We've been over this many times. The committee has never, ever given an at large bid to a team with a SOS of 180+, which is where we are going to be at. I think winning out would get us back in the topic of discussion but at large chances died a long, long time ago. We would have zero real quality wins and several bad losses. I hope we get to find out, because that means a a strong finish, but at large chances are gone. It's not fucking nuts to realize the committee would never give an at large to a team with our resume.

Committee has also never left out a MW team with 25 wins. And we have 3 quality wins. 2 against csu 1 against boise. Both are top 40 rpi
 
And there's never been a 25 W Mw team with this weak of a schedule. Look at teams they have left out the last few years, looks very much like a hypothetical Wyoming team that won out. They have sent a very clear message that SOS, particularly OOC SOS matters.
 
calpoke25 said:
And there's never been a 25 W Mw team with this weak of a schedule. Look at teams they have left out the last few years, looks very much like a hypothetical Wyoming team that won out. They have sent a very clear message that SOS, particularly OOC SOS matters.

Running the RPI wizard.

If we win our remaining four regular season games, then beat New Mexico, Colorado State, and lose to SDSU in the MWC championship, we get:

RPI: 38
SOS: 145

I think that gets us in.

WW
 
WilyWapiti said:
calpoke25 said:
And there's never been a 25 W Mw team with this weak of a schedule. Look at teams they have left out the last few years, looks very much like a hypothetical Wyoming team that won out. They have sent a very clear message that SOS, particularly OOC SOS matters.

Running the RPI wizard.

If we win our remaining four regular season games, then beat New Mexico, Colorado State, and lose to SDSU in the MWC championship, we get:

RPI: 38
SOS: 145

I think that gets us in.

WW


Was just gonna come here with the same post. I shouldn't spend so much time playing around on that site but I can't help it. I heard the guys on KFBC talking yesterday and they said talking to officals at UW they feel like if they won 4 of their last 5(now 3 of 4) and made it to the championship they would get in. Not sure I beleive that but taking another look at the RPI wizard if we did that(lost to either UNLV or UNM) and made the chamionship or won out but lost in the Semi's our RPI would be 49-52ish. with a SOS of 145ish. We would be on the bubble there but I don't think we would end up on the right side of it.
 
TSpoke said:
WilyWapiti said:
calpoke25 said:
And there's never been a 25 W Mw team with this weak of a schedule. Look at teams they have left out the last few years, looks very much like a hypothetical Wyoming team that won out. They have sent a very clear message that SOS, particularly OOC SOS matters.

Running the RPI wizard.

If we win our remaining four regular season games, then beat New Mexico, Colorado State, and lose to SDSU in the MWC championship, we get:

RPI: 38
SOS: 145

I think that gets us in.

WW


Was just gonna come here with the same post. I shouldn't spend so much time playing around on that site but I can't help it. I heard the guys on KFBC talking yesterday and they said talking to officals at UW they feel like if they won 4 of their last 5(now 3 of 4) and made it to the championship they would get in. Not sure I beleive that but taking another look at the RPI wizard if we did that(lost to either UNLV or UNM) and made the chamionship or won out but lost in the Semi's our RPI would be 49-52ish. with a SOS of 145ish. We would be on the bubble there but I don't think we would end up on the right side of it.

Obviously I am on record as thinking our chances are very slim. I think we need 16 total wins between the regular season and MWCT (IOW, winning out until the title game) to get in the conversation. At that point, we would certainly be in the conversation, but hardly a lock. It would depend on a number of other factors such as how many bid-stealers there are and maybe who we play in the MWCT. We really need another Top 50 type win, so a matchup against CSU as WW projects would be ideal. Also, if we are going to have a neutral court loss to finish the season in the MWCT it needs to be to SDSU and not to someone like USU/UNLV/FSU getting hot and winning it.

I just think we need too many things to go right at this point to earn an at-large. I still like our chances of winning the MWCT better than I like our chances of earning an at-large.

One thing that the win against Nevada did though is that really put us in solid position for the NIT. Obviously I hope we make the NCAA, but at least the NIT is progress and helps to cement this season as the best since 02-03, which it clearly is.
 
game at a time, that's all we can do, we can't control the other stuff, we are gonna make a strong push to win the whole tourney, gotta love it
 
NowherePoke said:
TSpoke said:
WilyWapiti said:
calpoke25 said:
And there's never been a 25 W Mw team with this weak of a schedule. Look at teams they have left out the last few years, looks very much like a hypothetical Wyoming team that won out. They have sent a very clear message that SOS, particularly OOC SOS matters.

Running the RPI wizard.

If we win our remaining four regular season games, then beat New Mexico, Colorado State, and lose to SDSU in the MWC championship, we get:

RPI: 38
SOS: 145

I think that gets us in.

WW


Was just gonna come here with the same post. I shouldn't spend so much time playing around on that site but I can't help it. I heard the guys on KFBC talking yesterday and they said talking to officals at UW they feel like if they won 4 of their last 5(now 3 of 4) and made it to the championship they would get in. Not sure I beleive that but taking another look at the RPI wizard if we did that(lost to either UNLV or UNM) and made the chamionship or won out but lost in the Semi's our RPI would be 49-52ish. with a SOS of 145ish. We would be on the bubble there but I don't think we would end up on the right side of it.

Obviously I am on record as thinking our chances are very slim. I think we need 16 total wins between the regular season and MWCT (IOW, winning out until the title game) to get in the conversation. At that point, we would certainly be in the conversation, but hardly a lock. It would depend on a number of other factors such as how many bid-stealers there are and maybe who we play in the MWCT. We really need another Top 50 type win, so a matchup against CSU as WW projects would be ideal. Also, if we are going to have a neutral court loss to finish the season in the MWCT it needs to be to SDSU and not to someone like USU/UNLV/FSU getting hot and winning it.

I just think we need too many things to go right at this point to earn an at-large. I still like our chances of winning the MWCT better than I like our chances of earning an at-large.

One thing that the win against Nevada did though is that really put us in solid position for the NIT. Obviously I hope we make the NCAA, but at least the NIT is progress and helps to cement this season as the best since 02-03, which it clearly is.

I agree with all of this. I enjoy looking at the numbers and seeing how things work out and finding ways for us to get in.Which I do think is possible but as you said we have to play good teams in the Tourney but we might as well win it all. Another thing that might go our way is the committee takes injuries into account so the AF loss might not count against us too much.
 
BeaverPoke said:
calpoke25 said:
laxwyo said:
You guys are fucking nuts to think if we win out we won't get an at large. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. We probably won't win out or the conference so it's not much to argue about .

We've been over this many times. The committee has never, ever given an at large bid to a team with a SOS of 180+, which is where we are going to be at. I think winning out would get us back in the topic of discussion but at large chances died a long, long time ago. We would have zero real quality wins and several bad losses. I hope we get to find out, because that means a a strong finish, but at large chances are gone. It's not fucking nuts to realize the committee would never give an at large to a team with our resume.

Committee has also never left out a MW team with 25 wins. And we have 3 quality wins. 2 against csu 1 against boise. Both are top 40 rpi

They wouldn't leave out a 25 win second place Wyoming and choose let's day CSU when the team you might choose was swept by the team you might leave out
 
Check this one out...this is why I think our at-large chances are toast.

2013-2014 season

Record: 23-10
RPI: 53
SOS: 135
Non-conference SOS: 303
Top 25 wins: 3
Losses to 100+ teams: 3

Who: SMU...they didn't get an at-large invite.

Granted they didn't have quite as many wins as we should end with, but they were also in a better conference than the MW is this year (Louisville, Cincinnati, UCONN).
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Check this one out...this is why I think our at-large chances are toast.

2013-2014 season

Record: 23-10
RPI: 53
SOS: 135
Non-conference SOS: 303
Top 25 wins: 3
Losses to 100+ teams: 3

Who: SMU...they didn't get an at-large invite.

Granted they didn't have quite as many wins as we should end with, but they were also in a better conference than the MW is this year (Louisville, Cincinnati, UCONN).
They lost in the first round of their conference tourney. You didn't mention that. That is a huge reason why they were left out.
 

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