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GTS - WYOMING vs. North Dakota
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siouxfan512
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As a UND fan - I'll go 24-21 UND
Realistic fan - I'll go 28-21 WYO (Our D should be strong, but offense has a lot to prove)
I posted this in a different thread, but it is probably more relevant here
Sounds like Wyoming is getting better, with two strong running backs and the FBS transfer QB. Sounds like a young defense based on what I have read, but I don't know much about Wyoming. UND's strength won't be its offense, but our defense should be sound, particularly our front seven. Corners need to prove themselves, and it sounds like we should be fairly strong at safety.
No idea what to expect out of our QB, as he has only played two games, and was a true freshman last season. Unfortunately, when we got a new coach last year, two of our top receivers transferred out and left us thin at the position. We had a walk on step up last season, and this year we added a FBS transfer from Arizona, who will hopefully add some speed and stretch the field.
RB will also be interesting, but unknow. We have 1 guy leftover from last season. 1 FBS transfer from Alabama-Birminham. 3 Freshman (Oliveira - a top recruit from Winnipeg (pretty built for a freshman), Santiago (undersized, but very fast - Speed compared to Weston Dressler for those who follow the Saskatchewan Roughriders (I know I saw some post on here referencing the Roughriders), and Iwarri Smith (Another speedster, but needs to put some muscle on. Had a walk on offer at Oregon, and I believe a B10 track offer as well.
Can't wait for Saturday!
Realistic fan - I'll go 28-21 WYO (Our D should be strong, but offense has a lot to prove)
I posted this in a different thread, but it is probably more relevant here
Sounds like Wyoming is getting better, with two strong running backs and the FBS transfer QB. Sounds like a young defense based on what I have read, but I don't know much about Wyoming. UND's strength won't be its offense, but our defense should be sound, particularly our front seven. Corners need to prove themselves, and it sounds like we should be fairly strong at safety.
No idea what to expect out of our QB, as he has only played two games, and was a true freshman last season. Unfortunately, when we got a new coach last year, two of our top receivers transferred out and left us thin at the position. We had a walk on step up last season, and this year we added a FBS transfer from Arizona, who will hopefully add some speed and stretch the field.
RB will also be interesting, but unknow. We have 1 guy leftover from last season. 1 FBS transfer from Alabama-Birminham. 3 Freshman (Oliveira - a top recruit from Winnipeg (pretty built for a freshman), Santiago (undersized, but very fast - Speed compared to Weston Dressler for those who follow the Saskatchewan Roughriders (I know I saw some post on here referencing the Roughriders), and Iwarri Smith (Another speedster, but needs to put some muscle on. Had a walk on offer at Oregon, and I believe a B10 track offer as well.
Can't wait for Saturday!
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Thisphxpoke said:
JohnnySunshine
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Does Wyoming have a better team on paper than last year?
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Can't tell...is this a clown question bro or a legitimate pondering?JohnnySunshine said:
I will go with the latter. Yes. On paper we should be improved this season.
BigHornPoke
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
This is the pump-up video prepared for Saturday's game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iACiyVHM00" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JohnnySunshine
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I'm a Bohl/NDSU fan and have watched you guys the last year. Really hoping he does well. The games I saw last year he did some really good things, it just looked like you guys had no depth whatsoever and your defensive backs did not quite fit the scheme Bohl wants to run. I thought Wyoming had some very good players along the front 7 that were on the first team, just no depth.
I haven't followed your offseason but will watch your games when they are on - I hope to see more depth all the way around, a little stronger unit on the oline that can hold their own throughout the course of the game, and a better TE/FB unit for what Bohl wants to do. The QB doesn't need to be great just needs to have pieces around him and I thought your QB last year did some good things although I'm not sure if he is back.
siouxfan512
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JohnnySunshine said:
I believe their QB from last year is gone. They now have an FBS transfer from Indiana (Coffman, I believe)
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Correct. He is an enormous upgrade. He's an actual QB. No know of Kirkegaard, he just didnt fit.siouxfan512 said:
siouxfan512
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Worked for us a few years back, we got a FBS transfer from North Carolina who came in and put up great numbers. Unfortunately we didn't have a great defense at the time.
Now the tables have turned, we have a solid D, but a young raw QB.
JimmyDimes
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Cam Coffman, the starter this year, is on the list for one of the best years ever for an Indiana QB. Last years starter, Colby Kirkgaard (who was a loyal Poke) is the only QB in Wyoming history to lose to an FCS team. He was 3rd string at the time we lost to Cal Poly, but still.
Bohl seems to think the team is improved even though we are thin at some positions.
Bohl seems to think the team is improved even though we are thin at some positions.
siouxfan512
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djm19 said:
Honestly, I don't know and I'm not the best to assess the O line. I know that most guys are returning, and hoping to pick up where they left of last season. I believe there were some struggles early, but they really gelled at the end of the season and our run game took off. We had 84 rushing yards against Missouri State last September and 297 against N. Arizona in November. These are thin stats, that don't carry a ton of weight (only 2 games) but the consensus was that the O-Line really started coming together at the end of the season.
lakesbison
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Bohl will run run and run again on Saturday & it should be effective, they lost their NG who transferred from u of Minnesota that was pretty dam good run stopper, but he got out of there quick after 1 year to Florida.
they will try & spread you out & throw the ball around, I suggest dime up on them & make them beat you on the ground with their non existant running game/o line.
if Wyoming doesn't win by 21, then my predication of Wyoming at 8-4 is toast.
they will try & spread you out & throw the ball around, I suggest dime up on them & make them beat you on the ground with their non existant running game/o line.
if Wyoming doesn't win by 21, then my predication of Wyoming at 8-4 is toast.
lakesbison
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they don't have a returning rb . their senior last year did all the heavy lifting, they are depending on a true freshman & converted linebacker with ZERO fullbacks.
last year Rush Off: Wyoming t77th (FBS) 153.2
UND 103rd (FCS) 116.4 (that was with a senior)
http://www.inforum.com/sports/3829370-running-back-rotation-mystery-und-football-team" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UND’s current depth chart reads true freshman John Santiago at No. 1 running back, followed by converted linebacker Kyle Norberg, a sophomore, at No. 2
UND will be a little unsettled at fullback, as well, against Wyoming. Expected starter Dustin Iverson has to sit the first two games of the season due to a suspension and potential backup Tyler Coyne suffered a season-ending leg injury early in camp.
They wont run on Wyoming, so feel free to load heavy in the secondary. :winky:
last year Rush Off: Wyoming t77th (FBS) 153.2
UND 103rd (FCS) 116.4 (that was with a senior)
http://www.inforum.com/sports/3829370-running-back-rotation-mystery-und-football-team" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UND’s current depth chart reads true freshman John Santiago at No. 1 running back, followed by converted linebacker Kyle Norberg, a sophomore, at No. 2
UND will be a little unsettled at fullback, as well, against Wyoming. Expected starter Dustin Iverson has to sit the first two games of the season due to a suspension and potential backup Tyler Coyne suffered a season-ending leg injury early in camp.
They wont run on Wyoming, so feel free to load heavy in the secondary. :winky:
siouxfan512
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lakesbison said:
They did lose Hinojosa at NG, but he actually was NOT the starter until after an injury. That being said, I really liked the guy, high energy player. Left UND to be closer to home for family reasons. Unfortunate, but completely understandable. Unfortunately, the next guy in line (Tank Harris) is out for suspension for a game or two (no idea why). So NG will be a question mark, but the rest of the D-line and LB core have no real question marks. LB core will be very strong with some depth.
I don't see us really trying to spread teams out, and we will be more of a run first team. My concern is if we will be able to get the passing game going with a relatively inexperience QB, but we do have some nice potential at WR. I also wouldn't say the run game is existent or non existent, more unproven. I think Bubba will scheme to run heavy all year, but we need to see if these young RBs will hold up. O-Line and RB turned a corner at the end of last season, and we will need to see if that can carry over to this year at all. Not a lot of turnover on the O Line.
On paper, this team has improved from last season, but the game isn't played on paper, so we will need to see if they can actually improve on the field.
siouxfan512
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lakesbison said:
That depth chart was listed that way due to injury. I believe all RBs are back from injury at this point.
They have a FBS transfer in Senior Ja'won Arrington (Alabama-Birmingham); Sophmore Kyle Norberg (Converted LB); True Freshman:
5 Oliveira, Brady RB 5-10 220 Fr. Winnipeg, Manitoba (Oak Park High School)
21 Gordon, Austin RB 5-9 190 Fr. Maple Grove, Minn. (Wayzata High School)
22 Santiago, John RB 5-9 170 Fr. St. Francis, Minn. (St. Francis High School)
25 Smith, Iwarri RB 6-1 195 Fr. Farmington Hills, Mich. (Harrison High School)
It would have been nice to have Nevermann, but that didn't happen :thumbdown:
There will be more of a running back by committee approach, but I think they will try run more than pass. Just my opinion; I could be way off.
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Geaux_sioux
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You have no clue what you're talking about. Hinojosa was a backup prior to the starter unjuring a knee. He was not the anchor of our defense at all. He had potential and long hair but not a lot in the way of production.lakesbison said:
Our starting TE is more of an H back and has seen plenty of time at FB and is more than servicable.