Fire the o coordinator . He freaking sucks

[WYOFLETCH]

At Wyoming, unless you are winning conference championships or performing a Koenning level collapse, fans will sort of see what they want to see in the coaches. Do you like high flying offense? You probably don't like coaches like Bohl ... Maybe you like toughness and culture?...then you probably do like coaches like Bohl. Now, is one of those things inherently more important to winning? I don't think you get championships without both...but I think if you focus on one to the detriment of the other (as PorkerPoke implies), then the record Bohl achieved is probably the ceiling. The better question is: Do you have to choose?...I honestly thing that Wyoming and schools like Wyoming do have to choose. They are resource starved and have to decide what to focus on. For my money, I favor the Bohl approach. Football programs that have success that lasts more than one season have an identity and a toughness to them that is easy to lose and hard to build/maintain.

The reality is C. Bohl type Coach is no longer the ceiling as the new era requires deep pockets. The President & AD have to get the OIL & GAS Sponsorships yesterday. The only way the get a quality national search and outside hire that can win is with more money.... That is why they hired Jay Sawvel. The problem is they tried to get an outside OC to shut the fans up and did not have the money except for who they got.

Going to be a few interesting years on the High Plains!

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Not to get down on the players but a qb and pass protection would help. Anderson could have spiked every ball and had a higher qb rating against Utah (not kidding)

 

[307bball]

The reality is C. Bohl type Coach is no longer the ceiling as the new era requires deep pockets. The President & AD have to get the OIL & GAS Sponsorships yesterday. The only way the get a quality national search and outside hire that can win is with more money.... That is why they hired Jay Sawvel. The problem is they tried to get an outside OC to shut the fans up and did not have the money except for who they got.

Going to be a few interesting years on the High Plains!

Well... If it's just pay to win, I'm not holding my breath for good results any time soon.

 

[WyomingAgJ]

Why does it feel like the only 2 options mentioned for offense is the Bohl offense and the spread offense? Fans seem to think it is the run run incomplete pass punt offense of Bohl with the hope to wear down the team in the 4th quarter or otherwise the only difference would be the Mike Leach pass every down spread offense. There are offensive schemes in between the 2. Bohl absolutely could have adjusted his scheme to fit his players without going to a spread offense, he just didn't.

 

[PorkerPoke]

Bohl absolutely could have adjusted his scheme to fit his players without going to a spread offense, he just didn't.

Totally agree! He did it at NDSU. He was able to do it in 2016 with good WR’s and a QB that was a better bet to complete a pass while being a threat to run. He just never seemed to pursue a QB with more than one skill and any defense that was stronger kept the box loaded while effectively playing man coverage. The best pass play was a 3 yard pass to the sideline which was not effective on 3rd and 6 plays.

 

[Bryoming]

Two words: Power spread

 

[307bball]

Totally agree! He did it at NDSU. He was able to do it in 2016 with good WR’s and a QB that was a better bet to complete a pass while being a threat to run. He just never seemed to pursue a QB with more than one skill and any defense that was stronger kept the box loaded while effectively playing man coverage. The best pass play was a 3 yard pass to the sideline which was not effective on 3rd and 6 plays.

That Bohl's teams at Wyoming struggled to be upper half in offensive production is not really debatable. What is debatable is why. One reason talent level and one reason is strategy or scheme. Let's talk about the talent side of this. You already have pointed out that the 2016 version of Bohl-ball was not totally offensively challenged due to the higher talent level at the skill positions. You seem to think that Bohl did not prioritize recruiting talented players, particularly at QB, after 2016. That feels like a big leap. I won't argue that he never got any noteworthy talent to speak of after having Allen, but I can't get on board that there was some intention behind that.

I think the years before and after Allen under many coaches shows us that great QB's (and players in general) are really hard to find.....and to the extent that you are sure they are great, it's extremely unlikely they will choose to come to UW. To me, that leaves us right back at what Bohl was actually pretty good at...creating talent. That was mostly seen on the defensive side of the ball and on the offensive line. That particular talent is probably harder (somewhat) to identify in high schoolers than a great WR or QB. That means that the obvious WR and QB talent is being sucked up by bigger fish than UW while Bohl and other Wyoming coaches are left trying to build up those players through development (which is what happened for Allen btw). Doesn't mean that you can't do it...but it does heavily imply that having great WR and QB talent at a school like Wyoming is nowhere close to a given no matter how much you focus on it.

Now ... as far as strategy/scheme is concerned... Bohl definitely was going for a style of smashmouth ball control that meant that the passing game was not focused on much. A bit outdated...but not entirely unsuccessful.