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[kansasCowboy]

Am I your mother? Not so much, but when these convo's are turned in your favor, I generally get a lot of flack for disagreeing. And it seems you don't like it much when you get a little flack for your opinion. Like I said before, and this can apply to anyone on here, if you can dish it out, then you can take a little criticism yourself. I don't care about differing opinions, I know I differ from some on here. But if you won't disagree respectfully...then expect this kind of thread, cause I sure as he'll won't back down.

 

[seattlecowboy]

I think what people fail to realize is that Texas State is actually a pretty good team. They would probably challenge for the Mountain West title and in all honesty probably win it since they can play defense. Our conference sucks, have you not watched any of the other teams play? If we play well we will beat every single team in the conference, we just need to learn to get up for every game, and that comes from experience that a loss like this provides. We will still win 8 games this year and be right there in the end for the conference.

The MWC is bad this year, no argument from me, and Texas State is a good football team (better than us anyway), but you are simply wrong about their potential finish in the MWC.

Comparative scores can only tell us so much, but here is a quick one for you:

Texas State Vs. Southern Miss - W 22-15 (Note: TxSt was outgained significantly in this game)

Boise State Vs. Southern MIss - W 60-7


Now, does that mean that BSU is 67 points better than the Pokes? Probably not, but it's not a good sign in regards to our ability to compete with the top teams in the league.

In fact, isn't that the most distressing thing about our current status (last year and into this year)? The MWC has declined dramatically from the group that Joe Glenn faced and ended up with 5-7, 4-8 type seasons and yet he were are still going 4-8.

I'm not disagreeing with you by any means but the comparative score thing isn't really a good argument as I know you already know.

Here is another comparative score:

Nebraska 37
Wyoming 34

Nebraska 56
S. Miss 13

Texas St. 22
S. Miss 15


I think overall people are overreacting to this loss. I knew last week before the game it wasn't going to be a blowout like most on here were expecting. From a handicapping perspective if I wasn't a Wyoming fan I would have had a bet on Texas St. because of the whole situation.
Wyoming put a lot of emotion and energy in to the Air Force game the previous week and now they are having to go back on the road for a 2nd straight week all the way down to Texas. Perfect letdown spot for them.

Then you have a Texas St. team who is playing maybe their 2nd biggest game besides Texas Tech this year at home against the MWC Wyoming Cowboys.
They were ready and waiting. It was a perfect storm for Wyoming to get beat. They also put in a QB who was better than any of their previous qb's that played this year.

I think Wyoming will have a great game after the bye week against New Mexico and also play great against CSU. Then you might see another let down spot. I think where you will probably see it is after Wyoming plays Fresno at home and has to go up to Boise to play. I think Wyoming will get beat like a drum up at Boise the way it sets up.

On a side note I think Texas St. will get beat this week at La. Lafayette. So no one should be surprised and whining about it after they beat them and Wyoming didn't. Texas St. is in a tough spot this week going on the road after two big games for them. That's just the way college sports are and unless you have top 25 talent to overcome some of those mental and emotional lapses by college kids then you will get beat on certain weeks when it will surprise people.

By the way I'm not just speaking to you NowherePoke I am just talking in general to everyone lol. I know you know this stuff.

I think overall to many people are overreacting to this loss. Wyoming will probably go 8-4 or 7-5 this year in my opinion. I think that depends on whether or not they can win at San Jose St.

Also one last thing is that no way does Texas St. win the MWC this year if they were in the league. They are a decent team with a decent defense but they were just in the perfect spot to beat Wyoming. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[SDPokeFan]

I, too, was lulled into believing Wyoming had turned the corner this year. I thought the Cowboys would blast Texas St. Unfortunately, I saw the same thing I have seen out of Wyoming for the past umpteen seasons. Piss poor defense and a mind-numblingly baffling loss to an inferior opponent. We are what we are. A mediocre team that can lose to anybody. You people predicting we blast New Mexico should probably remind yourselves of the Texas St. game and the Cal-Poly game last year. There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team. I think I'd shit myself if they actually stopped the run in a game.

 

[CowboyNV]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

 

[kansasCowboy]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

All this was said just before the AFA game too. Remember? Nebraska ran all over us, so we all needed to be cautious about AFA. UNM is an option team just like AFA, you have to prepare for them differently.

 

[Wyovanian]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

All this was said just before the AFA game too. Remember? Nebraska ran all over us, so we all needed to be cautious about AFA. UNM is an option team just like AFA, you have to prepare for them differently.

AFA rushed for 346 yards against us.

 

[kansasCowboy]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

All this was said just before the AFA game too. Remember? Nebraska ran all over us, so we all needed to be cautious about AFA. UNM is an option team just like AFA, you have to prepare for them differently.

AFA rushed for 346 yards against us.

It's an option team! They will get their yards. But, how productive will they be with those yards? They had 23 points against us. I'd say our D did just fine against AFA. UNM ran all over us last year but only managed 23 points. Our D did just fine. Any option team will gain on the ground, you just can't let them control the pace of the game. And you are able to bend but you can't break. You can't give up the big runs.

 

[Wyovanian]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

All this was said just before the AFA game too. Remember? Nebraska ran all over us, so we all needed to be cautious about AFA. UNM is an option team just like AFA, you have to prepare for them differently.

AFA rushed for 346 yards against us.

It's an option team! They will get their yards. But, how productive will they be with those yards? They had 23 points against us. I'd say our D did just fine against AFA. UNM ran all over us last year but only managed 23 points. Our D did just fine. Any option team will gain on the ground, you just can't let them control the pace of the game. And you are able to bend but you can't break. You can't give up the big runs.

And we just held on just enough to win by one score. We were scoreless in the 2nd half until the 4th quarter while UNM ran all over us.

Both USU and BSU held AFA under 200 yards on the ground. The same option team we played.

You can keep your head in the sand all you want, but we still have run defense issues.

 

[kansasCowboy]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

All this was said just before the AFA game too. Remember? Nebraska ran all over us, so we all needed to be cautious about AFA. UNM is an option team just like AFA, you have to prepare for them differently.

AFA rushed for 346 yards against us.

It's an option team! They will get their yards. But, how productive will they be with those yards? They had 23 points against us. I'd say our D did just fine against AFA. UNM ran all over us last year but only managed 23 points. Our D did just fine. Any option team will gain on the ground, you just can't let them control the pace of the game. And you are able to bend but you can't break. You can't give up the big runs.

And we just held on just enough to win by one score. We were scoreless in the 2nd half until the 4th quarter while UNM ran all over us.

Both USU and BSU held AFA under 200 yards on the ground. The same option team we played.

You can keep your head in the sand all you want, but we still have run defense issues.

Look I'm not saying our D is great, but we contained and won right? UNM catching us last year was not a D problem, it was an offensive problem constantly going 4 and out in the second half wore down the D. I think this year it evens itself out.

 

[WyoBrandX]

New Mexico has a rushing attack that averages 324.5 yards per game. Texas State averaged 142 yards per game coming into the Wyoming game and they hung 256 yards of rushing on the Pokes. If Wyoming doesn't figure out how to tackle in the days prior to the UNM game, we could be in trouble. My advice, don't pencil a win in just yet Like SDPokeFan said, "There is no such thing as a guaranteed win for this team."

Look at Air Force's numbers
Allows 41.6 points per game #122
Scores 28.6 points per game #75
7th in the nation in rushing at 297 yards per game
Wyoming let them have 346 yards rushing and won 56-23

New Mexico:
Allows 40.3 points per game # 119
Scores 31.0 points per game # 64
3rd in the nation in rushing at 324.5 yards per game

Wyoming
Allows 23.8 points per game #53
Scores 37.6 points per game #34
53rd in the nation in rushing at 193.4 yards per game

Texas State
Allows 18.0 points per game #29
Scores 24.8 points per game #91
66th in the nation at 170.8 yards per game

The stats don't matter much. Its way to early. Even when they do matter, its why we play the game instead of winning it on paper. We have a great team. It will be a fun season. There is still alot of football to be played.

 

[dirtyseal]

Just read a lot of what you'll had to said and WOW! The reason why Wyoming lost to Texas State was that you'll were looking for that 2011 D1AA team that you blew out but what happen was the 2013 D1 team showed up with a BIG STICK! :rofl: News Flash: Texas State probably has no one on the team that played in 2011. Fran got rid of those D1AA players and upgraded with JUCO and D1 transfers. Texas State has 6 NFL quality guys on it's roster in 2013. So all this talk about a fluke (like a last sec FG but not 21 POINTS) or maybe it was a long trip?! C'mon man. :rofl: If you saw the game Wyoming O was shut down and the QB was under duress the entire second half... opcorn: The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...


FYI - The Cajuns have like no respect for Wyoming...

 

[Cornpoke]

The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again... \

All this "we beat them 9 out of 10 times is ridiculous talk. They flat out BEAT us. It looked like they had 12 players on defense. They dominated us on both sides of the line of scrimmage. We maybe beat them 2/10 times.

 

[Wyo2dal]

The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...

You're our of your mind that was rain and a 3.5 hour delay, You can take it or you can leave it that type of delay can kill any team but Texas State is not the better team.

 

[dirtyseal]

The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...

You're our of your mind that was rain and a 3.5 hour delay, You can take it or you can leave it that type of delay can kill any team but Texas State is not the better team.

Are you talking the same rain and 3.5 hour delay that Texas State had?! opcorn:

 

[YankPoke]

Just read a lot of what you'll had to said and WOW! The reason why Wyoming lost to Texas State was that you'll were looking for that 2011 D1AA team that you blew out but what happen was the 2013 D1 team showed up with a BIG STICK! :rofl: News Flash: Texas State probably has no one on the team that played in 2011. Fran got rid of those D1AA players and upgraded with JUCO and D1 transfers. Texas State has 6 NFL quality guys on it's roster in 2013. So all this talk about a fluke (like a last sec FG but not 21 POINTS) or maybe it was a long trip?! C'mon man. :rofl: If you saw the game Wyoming O was shut down and the QB was under duress the entire second half... opcorn: The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...


FYI - The Cajuns have like no respect for Wyoming...

I would agree that people are underestimating Texas State and they are actually a pretty good football team. I do think that Wyoming wins that game under different circumstances and the fact that it was the week after Air Force along with the 3.5 hour rain delay that can only help the home team. Also learn how to write in readable English and maybe people will be more likely to take you seriously.

 

[Wyo2dal]

The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...

You're our of your mind that was rain and a 3.5 hour delay, You can take it or you can leave it that type of delay can kill any team but Texas State is not the better team.

Are you talking the same rain and 3.5 hour delay that Texas State had?! opcorn:

Yes I am on that day Texas State got up for it, Wyoming didn't but one game one day doesn't mean shit and if you think it does I've got news for you you're in for some disappointing games.

Oh and 6 NFL Quality players sorry to disappoint but 2 at max.

I do get a kick out of the fact you are chest thumping over this game though it's quite comical to say the least.

 

[Wyovanian]

The fact is that Wyoming got beat by a better team and Texas State could do it again...

You're our of your mind that was rain and a 3.5 hour delay, You can take it or you can leave it that type of delay can kill any team but Texas State is not the better team.

Are you talking the same rain and 3.5 hour delay that Texas State had?! opcorn:

Yes I am on that day Texas State got up for it, Wyoming didn't but one game one day doesn't mean shit and if you think it does I've got news for you you're in for some disappointing games.

Oh and 6 NFL Quality players sorry to disappoint but 2 at max.

I do get a kick out of the fact you are chest thumping over this game though it's quite comical to say the least.

Seems to be a theme with us.

 

[dirtyseal]

Wyo2dal....I understand that you are still in a lot of pain and want to hold on the fact that if all the stars and the moon were lined up right that Wyoming would have won... opcorn: :rofl:

 

[dirtyseal]

Yankpoke.....You're pretty good at those excuses on LOSING....Is that better English for you?! opcorn:

 

[dirtyseal]

Wyo2dal....You're right its not 6 NFL's but 4. I got carried away and added 2 by the way they played in the game but then again it was not like we were playing an ESTABLISHED WINNING PROGRAM. Also I tried to do the "Chest bump thang" with the Cajuns and they laugh me off their forum! They said that Wyoming was ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS! Then the Cajuns ask me what winning team has Wyoming beat?! That's when I mentioned Idaho, Northern Colo and Air force. Wow...That was like throwing jet fuel on a fire! :rofl: That's when I realized that Wyoming only played 2 winning teams and LOST TO BOTH! opcorn: