Colson Coon and Luke Talich

[307bball]

First off, why is there a discussion of Wyoming high school players on the Univerisity of Wyoming Football board? This board is for Wyoming football, not those that played HS in Wyoming - there is another board for that.

And more importantly:

This is a sports message board (for entertainment). It is not the gospel, it has no teeth, it is a vent / discussion / idea gathering of people with a like-minded love for the Wyoming Cowboys. Parents, Athletes, Friends of Athletes, and on and on, should avoid coming here (or any message board) IMO. It takes a thick skin. It can be trite, rude, and downright insulting, but again, it is a message board. Reader beware.

Ah yes...now the gatekeeping.

By your own logic....if a discussion about Wyoming recruits veers into a "where are they now" type of thread, feel free to skip over it. There is no clear line of boundary when that happens.

More importantly...this thing that has happened where discourse that would be completely out of bounds in any other setting is seen as acceptable or even encouraged online needs to die somehow.

 

[307bball]

TLDR. Brevity is the soul of wit

I'm all for brevity. I'll assume you have the intention of communicating so I'll just paste the last part here:

There is no way that the mindset implied by your comments is in any way positive. You say you don't give a sh!t about them...if that were actually true you would have never wrote a post to begin with. Action = investment. Saying, in effect, "F those guys", is ridiculous on the basis you are doing it.

The rest was pointed to your comment about "loving" UW. The upshot?...I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[LanderPoke]

I'm all for brevity. I'll assume you have the intention of communicating so I'll just paste the last part here:

There is no way that the mindset implied by your comments is in any way positive. You say you don't give a sh!t about them...if that were actually true you would have never wrote a post to begin with. Action = investment. Saying, in effect, "F those guys", is ridiculous on the basis you are doing it.

The rest was pointed to your comment about "loving" UW. The upshot?...I wouldn't recommend it.

Ok, Spock

 

[McPeachy]

Ah yes...now the gatekeeping.

By your own logic....if a discussion about Wyoming recruits veers into a "where are they now" type of thread, feel free to skip over it. There is no clear line of boundary when that happens.

More importantly...this thing that has happened where discourse that would be completely out of bounds in any other setting is seen as acceptable or even encouraged online needs to die somehow.

Whatever, but I don't need parenting, thanks.

I have no dog in this fight, and very frankly do not give one runny shit about Wyoming HS athletes not at / suiting up for the University of Wyoming, sorry to disappoint you (and anyone else here).

Again, to help you read between the lines, I am here for the University of Wyoming sports, not high school sports or former athletes - and rarely other sports (hence the HS sports board, and other boards for topics like this). Frankly, some posters here seem to really live and die by what somebody says on this board, which I find pure lunacy. This board is usually fun banter, with some interesting dialogue, and at times breaking news. This topic should be moved to the other board, period.

 

[LanderPoke]

First off, why is there a discussion of Wyoming high school players on the Univerisity of Wyoming Football board? This board is for Wyoming football, not those that played HS in Wyoming - there is another board for that.

And more importantly:

This is a sports message board (for entertainment). It is not the gospel, it has no teeth, it is a vent / discussion / idea gathering of people with a like-minded love for the Wyoming Cowboys. Parents, Athletes, Friends of Athletes, and on and on, should avoid coming here (or any message board) IMO. It takes a thick skin. It can be trite, rude, and downright insulting, but again, it is a message board. Reader beware.

For real. All the Talich fan boys should go post on a notre dame board.

307 loves anyone who makes the logical and sensible choice to not attend UW or transfer from UW.

 

[307bball]

Ok, Spock

hmm.....well..It's as I thought. You are the keyboard commando that Riddo characterized you as.

 

[LanderPoke]

hmm.....well..It's as I thought. You are the keyboard commando that Riddo characterized you as.

I’m not going to lie. I’ve made a habit of not reading almost everything you post. Since I literally didn’t read what you wrote, I’ll have to go back. Hold on

 

[307bball]

I’m not going to lie. I’ve made a habit of not reading almost everything you post. Since I literally didn’t read what you wrote, I’ll have to go back. Hold on

I didn't write anything profound and if you don't want to read anything longer than 5 sentences that is your prerogative. I have enjoyed trading epistles with Ragtime and a few others .... to each their own.

 

[307bball]

Whatever, but I don't need parenting, thanks.

I have no dog in this fight, and very frankly do not give one runny shit about Wyoming HS athletes not at / suiting up for the University of Wyoming, sorry to disappoint you (and anyone else here).

Again, to help you read between the lines, I am here for the University of Wyoming sports, not high school sports or former athletes - and rarely other sports (hence the HS sports board, and other boards for topics like this). Frankly, some posters here seem to really live and die by what somebody says on this board, which I find pure lunacy. This board is usually fun banter, with some interesting dialogue, and at times breaking news. This topic should be moved to the other board, period.

Not disappointed (at least not in you). The amount of topics discussed on here that are tenuously related to Cowboy football is huge. It's interesting that this is the one that get's people riled up. I think that @ragtimejoe1 is on to something with is earlier observation:

I find it interesting that there is animosity or indifference towards WYO born athletes for not attending UW vs UW not creating an environment to capture local talent.

When top Wyoming prep athletes go else where, it says something about UW athletics that some here don't want to look directly at. I thing that is completely inbounds for this board.

It's confusing when people make the effort to post about how little they care about something. If you don't care, there is no action. There are a lot of discussions on this board that people let go by without comment all the time. I appreciate that you seem to stop short of of Lander's stance of "eff those guys"....but if you don't care....show it.

 

[LanderPoke]

I didn't write anything profound and if you don't want to read anything longer than 5 sentences that is your prerogative. I have enjoyed trading epistles with Ragtime and a few others .... to each their own.

I would like to resd what you post, but you are so damn long winded. So here’s a long winded post for you.

Anyway, I’m not the one posting about kids NOT at UW. People take time to come on here and post about garbage time TDs to rub it in our faces that a kid is doing relatively well somewhere not UW. IMO that’s stupid for a number of reasons and since this is an opinion message board I am going to say so. Sue me. Next time I will properly show my not caring by ignoring.

Yea, I initially do get irritated that Wyoming kids go elsewhere. I am of the mindset that you should be the change that you want to see. If you’d like to see an elevated UW you should be sending your kids here to go to school, especially those talented kids that can make a difference. But, something like that would never compute in your robot mind.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I don’t agree with gate keeping topics as somehow being Wyoming football related and somehow not (unless it’s obvious - we don’t need topics here on Dino Costa’s newest name change).

But the fact of the matter is that the Talich family has and continues to have a profound relationship to Wyoming football. I grew up as a Wyoming kid watching them on the field and they are a big part of why I became a fan (along with many other former Cowboy greats). They have a current family member on the team. With the transfer portal and what seems as a never ending number of extra years eligibility, you never know what the future holds.

But I don’t think telling a player that he’s worthless and just a garbage time player because he went to play somewhere else is an effective strategy for convincing a player to consider Wyoming (or an effective/appropriate strategy for anything really).

 

[LanderPoke]

I don’t agree with gate keeping topics as somehow being Wyoming football related and somehow not (unless it’s obvious - we don’t need topics here on Dino Costa’s newest name change).

But the fact of the matter is that the Talich family has and continues to have a profound relationship to Wyoming football. I grew up as a Wyoming kid watching them on the field and they are a big part of why I became a fan (along with many other former Cowboy greats). They have a current family member on the team. With the transfer portal and what seems as a never ending number of extra years eligibility, you never know what the future holds.

But I don’t think telling a player that he’s worthless and just a garbage time player because he went to play somewhere else is an effective strategy for convincing a player to consider Wyoming (or an effective/appropriate strategy for anything really).

He literally is currently a special teams/garbage time player. No one called anyone “worthless”. I even said he’d probably be all conference if he were here, which seems to me, at least, to be a tremendous waste of talent. Additionally, he’d probably be getting on the NFL radar because he’d have made a million tackles. But, he gets to play for his dream school, ND. Good for him. Yay. And we all gotta support him!

 

[307bball]

I would like to resd what you post, but you are so damn long winded. So here’s a long winded post for you.

Anyway, I’m not the one posting about kids NOT at UW. People take time to come on here and post about garbage time TDs to rub it in our faces that a kid is doing relatively well somewhere not UW. IMO that’s stupid for a number of reasons and since this is an opinion message board I am going to say so. Sue me. Next time I will properly show my not caring by ignoring.

Yea, I initially do get irritated that Wyoming kids go elsewhere. I am of the mindset that you should be the change that you want to see. If you’d like to see an elevated UW you should be sending your kids here to go to school, especially those talented kids that can make a difference. But, something like that would never compute in your robot mind.

I'll let @OrediggerPoke represent himself but I don't detect any desire to "rub it in our faces". Somebody You made a Rudy reference and he just posted a link that sort of aligns with that. Is the mere knowledge of a Wyoming kid being successful in athletics elsewhere an insult to us?

To your last statement about encouraging/advising your kids...I have no problem with encouraging that. It's when it strays into a quasi-moral judgmental screed when people choose different than somebody thinks they should.

 

[307bball]

He literally is currently a special teams/garbage time player. No one called anyone “worthless”. I even said he’d probably be all conference if he were here, which seems to me, at least, to be a tremendous waste of talent. Additionally, he’d probably be getting on the NFL radar because he’d have made a million tackles. But, he gets to play for his dream school, ND. Good for him. Yay. And we all gotta support him!

Is the NFL/visibility thing true anymore? I don't think the NFL is missing NFL talent. Maybe if there is an NFL guy backing up a Heisman candidate...but that seems rare.

Is it true that the third guy on the depth chart in the B10 and SEC level programs is all-conference level at the G5 level? If so, that really says something that we are all missing. Why are these athletes choosing to go where they go?

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I'll let @OrediggerPoke represent himself but I don't detect any desire to "rub it in our faces". Somebody made a Rudy reference and he just posted a link that sort of aligns with that. Is the mere knowledge of a Wyoming kid being successful in athletics elsewhere an insult to us?

To your last statement about encouraging/advising your kids...I have no problem with encouraging that. It's when it strays into a quasi-moral judgmental screed when people choose different than somebody thinks they should.

Yes - it was LanderPoke himself that made the ‘Rudy’ reference roughly a year and a half ago.

It was amazing to me watching the highlight just how much similarity there was with the movie. A kid follows his dream and walks on to Notre Dame, proves the doubters wrong by working his way to a scholarship, then makes a big play late in a decided game and is mobbed by his teammates. Seriously - how cool is that!?!? It’s freaking awesome for anyone whoever watched that movie! But when you read the real story of ‘Rudy,’ it actually seems like Talich’s true story may actually fit the movie plot better. Is it time for Hollywood to make a Rudy 2?

EDIT -Oh - and to add even more similarity, the family and brother traveled to the game and witnessed Rudy’s big play in the movie. Being a Wyoming bye week, it sounds like the Talich family and brother traveled to the game and witnessed the big play.

 

[LanderPoke]

Is the NFL/visibility thing true anymore? I don't think the NFL is missing NFL talent. Maybe if there is an NFL guy backing up a Heisman candidate...but that seems rare.

Is it true that the third guy on the depth chart in the B10 and SEC level programs is all-conference level at the G5 level? If so, that really says something that we are all missing. Why are these athletes choosing to go where they go?

Of course it helps to get noticed by actually playing. Are you listening to yourself?

 

[LanderPoke]

Yes - it was LanderPoke himself that made the ‘Rudy’ reference roughly a year and a half ago.

It was amazing to me watching the highlight just how much similarity there was with the movie. A kid follows his dream and walks on to Notre Dame, proves the doubters wrong by working his way to a scholarship, then makes a big play late in a decided game and is mobbed by his teammates. Seriously - how cool is that!?!? It’s freaking awesome for anyone whoever watched that movie! But when you read the real story of ‘Rudy,’ it actually seems like Talich’s true story may actually fit the movie plot better. Is it time for Hollywood to make a Rudy 2?

EDIT -Oh - and to add even more similarity, the family and brother traveled to the game and witnessed Rudy’s big play in the movie. Being a Wyoming bye week, it sounds like the Talich family and brother traveled to the game and witnessed the big play.

Being called “Rudy” is a backhanded compliment at best. Can Talich work himself out of a Rudy-like role? Time will tell and we all here in Wyoming will be rooting like crazy for him!!

 

[307bball]

Of course it helps to get noticed by actually playing. Are you listening to yourself?

I think you are misunderstanding me...I'm asking if there are truly NFL guys buried in depth charts. If you are NFL caliber and not playing in college...even at a power house, that would surprise me.

 

[LanderPoke]

I better watch myself. Lizzo, errrr riddo, is going to come from Cody to beat me up. I’m done with this inane conversation. Beat the sheep!

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I better watch myself. Lizzo, errrr riddo, is going to come from Cody to beat me up. I’m done with this inane conversation. Beat the sheep!

Ok that made me laugh

I’m actually not embarrassed to say that I kind of like Lizzo’s music.