zappinpoke said:Former @wyo_football QB Brett Smith is finalizing a contract. We'll know where he's going soon. #gowyo
Suck it
Your calling him a idiot. LOL Thats funny.Wyo2dal said:bladerunnr said:Yea, I'll eat crow on that one. I still say he's as good as Manziel under the same circumstances.
Manziel is quicker, faster, has a stronger arm, is more accurate, has better awareness in the pocket, and makes better decisions. If Manziel was on Wyoming last year, we win 9 games easy.
Also, let's not compare Smith to Warren Moon or Tom Brady. Those guys won Rose bowls and played in real conferences. Lot's of teams put up big numbers on Hawaii and Air force. I'm sorry you can't see that. But posters like you probably think we will be competitive with Oregon and Michigan state. How delusional.
You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it wasn't even collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy.
Andy Dalton played in the spread, Scam Newton played in the spread, and I'm pretty sure several others have and are doing pretty well too.spindoctor02 said:zappinpoke said:Former @wyo_football QB Brett Smith is finalizing a contract. We'll know where he's going soon. #gowyo
Suck it
I wouldn't be telling anyone to "suck it" quite yet. Teams need QBs to run their rookie minicamps. Signing a FA deal after the draft in no way guarantees him a spot on a 53 man NFL roster come September.
I'll believe it when I see it, but Spread QBs just don't translate to the NFL game. It's the same reason I'm glad I'm not a Browns fan right now. Enjoy Tebow v2.0 Browns fans...enjoy it.
Wyo2dal said:You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it wasn't even collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy.
It didn't help he was running for his life against bad teams (still made good plays), but against teams with solid defenses, he would get the ball and would have a defender in his face almost immediatly after that.calpoke25 said:Wyo2dal said:You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it wasn't even collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy.
Like him or not but Manziel had his biggest games against heavyweights of the SEC, like Alabama. Brett Smith's biggest games came against the likes of a bad Air Force and Hawaii. Brett did rise to the occasion against Nebraska, but let's be objective about this.
calpoke25 said:Wyo2dal said:You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it was collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy heavyweights/quote]
Like him or not but Manziel had his biggest games against heavyweights of the SEC, like Alabama. Brett Smith's biggest games came against the likes of a bad Air Force and Hawaii. Brett did rise to the occasion against Nebraska, but let's be objective about this.
fromolwyoming said:It didn't help he was running for his life against bad teams (still made good plays), but against teams with solid defenses, he would get the ball and would have a defender in his face almost immediatly after that.calpoke25 said:Wyo2dal said:You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it wasn't even collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy.
Like him or not but Manziel had his biggest games against heavyweights of the SEC, like Alabama. Brett Smith's biggest games came against the likes of a bad Air Force and Hawaii. Brett did rise to the occasion against Nebraska, but let's be objective about this.
So a shorter, slower, and more pompous QB that benefitted from a ton of talent on the o-line and in the recieving corps (Lets not forget a HC that actually adjusts) is better than a QB who is taller, faster, and more humble that almost always had to create plays on his own due to lousy protection from his o-line and a head coach who did not know the meaning of "adjustments"? Okay then.theman12 said:fromolwyoming said:It didn't help he was running for his life against bad teams (still made good plays), but against teams with solid defenses, he would get the ball and would have a defender in his face almost immediatly after that.calpoke25 said:Wyo2dal said:You're an idiot Manziel would run out of the pocket when it wasn't even collapsing on him GTFO here with your idiocy.
Like him or not but Manziel had his biggest games against heavyweights of the SEC, like Alabama. Brett Smith's biggest games came against the likes of a bad Air Force and Hawaii. Brett did rise to the occasion against Nebraska, but let's be objective about this.
On a scale of talent brett is a 9 out of 10 and Johnny football is a 18. There is no question who I'd pick and for those who would pick brett. Let's just say I'm glad you aren't NFL scouts.
fromolwyoming said:So a shorter, slower, and more pompous QB that benefitted from a ton of talent on the o-line and in the recieving corps (Lets not forget a HC that actually adjusts) is better than a QB who is taller, faster, and more humble that almost always had to create plays on his own due to lousy protection from his o-line and a head coach who did not know the meaning of "adjustments"? Okay then.
And Manziel benefieted from a ton of talent on the line and in the recieving corps. He also had a coach who could develop players and make adjustments. You expect Smith to block for himself when the o-line lets an undersized linebacker through? Or make halftime adjustments when what they are running isn't working? Put Manziel in Brett's place, we in maybe 2 or 3 games. Put Brett in Manziel's place, I doubt you see any offensive drop off, and if anything, maybe some improvement since he would have a reliable o-line for once.theman12 said:No a playmaker that plays faster than his 40, and makes amazing plays in the sec on the regular is better than a good QB that couldn't even do the things he did in the MWC. OKAY THEN
So you really think Brett is better than Manziel? I guess you know more than 32 NFL scouts, and every NFL analyst alive.fromolwyoming said:And Manziel benefieted from a ton of talent on the line and in the recieving corps. He also had a coach who could develop players and make adjustments. You expect Smith to block for himself when the o-line lets an undersized linebacker through? Or make halftime adjustments when what they are running isn't working? Put Manziel in Brett's place, we in maybe 2 or 3 games. Put Brett in Manziel's place, I doubt you see any offensive drop off, and if anything, maybe some improvement since he would have a reliable o-line for once.theman12 said:No a playmaker that plays faster than his 40, and makes amazing plays in the sec on the regular is better than a good QB that couldn't even do the things he did in the MWC. OKAY THEN
fromolwyoming said:And Manziel benefieted from a ton of talent on the line and in the recieving corps. He also had a coach who could develop players and make adjustments. You expect Smith to block for himself when the o-line lets an undersized linebacker through? Or make halftime adjustments when what they are running isn't working? Put Manziel in Brett's place, we in maybe 2 or 3 games. Put Brett in Manziel's place, I doubt you see any offensive drop off, and if anything, maybe some improvement since he would have a reliable o-line for once.theman12 said:No a playmaker that plays faster than his 40, and makes amazing plays in the sec on the regular is better than a good QB that couldn't even do the things he did in the MWC. OKAY THEN
I'm delusional? Manziel would begin running for his life before he ever got any pressure and was lucky he didn't take a hit to the head. Had he tried that here, and he would have, he would have been in the hospital several times and his career over. Smith at least tried to stay in the pocket and make plays when he could, but had to take off because of inadequate protection. Manziel had a 1st rounder reciever to toss the ball to and a 1st round o-linmen to make sure he wasn't creamed from behind while running like a chicken with it's head cut off.theman12 said:fromolwyoming said:And Manziel benefieted from a ton of talent on the line and in the recieving corps. He also had a coach who could develop players and make adjustments. You expect Smith to block for himself when the o-line lets an undersized linebacker through? Or make halftime adjustments when what they are running isn't working? Put Manziel in Brett's place, we in maybe 2 or 3 games. Put Brett in Manziel's place, I doubt you see any offensive drop off, and if anything, maybe some improvement since he would have a reliable o-line for once.theman12 said:No a playmaker that plays faster than his 40, and makes amazing plays in the sec on the regular is better than a good QB that couldn't even do the things he did in the MWC. OKAY THEN
Haha you're delusional. Manziel would have won a MWC campionship last year and Brett would've been an average player in the SEC
kdwrightuwyo said:Dudes, Johnny Football was throwing to a first round WR, while under protection from a first round offensive lineman.