2016 recruiting thread....

[WestWYOPoke]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

 

[poke_addict]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

I'm sure we would have heard as well. But you never know. Does surprise me we haven't been recruiting these local schools they seem to have some good recruits. But then again I trust what this staff is doing. We recruit nationally not locally. The kid has to be the right fit maybe the staff did give him some looks but found out he doesn't want to or can't play defense

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

Exactly. If Wyoming even KNEW these guys were up there Little Shy and any combo of our sports reporters would have blown up Twitter about it

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

Exactly. If Wyoming even KNEW these guys were up there Little Shy and any combo of our sports reporters would have blown up Twitter about it

Doubt it, that's a recruiting violation.

It just depends on how active in social media the athlete is. If this guy has a big online presence than I agree, but some guys are smart and don't do so much, in which case you don't always hear all their offers. I guarantee that every recruit we talk about, for every school that it is public knowledge he has an offer to, there is at least 1 school that it is not public knowledge.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

Exactly. If Wyoming even KNEW these guys were up there Little Shy and any combo of our sports reporters would have blown up Twitter about it

Doubt it, that's a recruiting violation.

It just depends on how active in social media the athlete is. If this guy has a big online presence than I agree, but some guys are smart and don't do so much, in which case you don't always hear all their offers. I guarantee that every recruit we talk about, for every school that it is public knowledge he has an offer to, there is at least 1 school that it is not public knowledge.

Have you ever seen his twitter feed? Every single trip he goes on two watch a player he puts something on twitter. I am not saying he would name drop but he makes it very obvious where he's going and on a team like Gillette CC, it wouldnt be super difficult to figure out who it would be. Thats all I was saying.

 

[Cowduck]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

1. Who's to say we aren't?

2. There is no good reason why Wyoming should be getting any kind of recruiting advantage with in-state jucos as opposed to out-of-state. These guys don't come to Wyoming jucos with any sense of allegiance to the state or university, they just go to the best basketball situation for them given their circumstances. Chris Boucher and Kavell Bigby-Williams went to Oregon, who just came off of a Final Four appearance. We can expect born-and-raised Wyoming kids to maybe give Wyoming a leg up but not JC mercenaries.

3. By the same token, it isn't any easier for Wyoming to recruit kids from, say, Gillette College than it is from any of the JCs in Colorado, or CSI, or Hutchinson, etc. - they're only marginally farther away at most.

4. I'd rather recruit JCs sparingly to fill needs in acute circumstances (like, uh, right now given our two PG departures this year and it being late in the recruiting game) but not be our main strategy of team-building. I appreciate Dana Altman's success with transfers as an Oregon fan but I'd rather develop continuity - it's way more likely to be an advantage for a program like Wyoming that's going to have to polish diamonds in the rough rather than rake in blue-chippers.

 

[NowherePoke]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Which three are you talking about? Boucher, Bigby-Williams, and this player? If so, we did pursue Boucher of course and it is fairly obvious that pursuing Bigby-Williams would have been a waste of time. Not only did he end with offers from Texas, Oregon, etc., but his statements regarding Montana State made his position quite clear (he committed to them out of HS, but basically said he had no interest in playing at MSU or in the Big Sky and that he only committed because he didn't have better offers at that time but now he had his sights set higher. While the MWC is higher, I think it is fair to say he would have had no interest and we may have been told that if we contacted his coach, but I don't know if we did).

OLuyitan is more interesting as he would have been an excellent fit and did sign with a MWC school.

However, there are plenty of other JC players from Wyoming JC's that have signed with D1 schools including one with us (Dalton). Most of them just signed with lower level programs (Kanseyo to Montana State, Abednego to ETSU, etc.). I would guess we are not going after most of them because we don't think they are what we need.

 

[NowherePoke]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

Disagree. Up until this article, there was no previous reports that I could find regarding offers from CSU, UNLV, or Creighton and he didn't even have a profile on most of the recruiting sites until a couple of days ago.

Even from our staff, if it wasn't for a tweet from the Otero Basketball coaches we wouldn't have known that we were recruiting players from Otero JC. There is nothing listed on any site and no evidence from our coaches social media feed. I still don't know who they were pursuing (likely either DJ Miles or VJ Holmes), only that they were visiting (and MWC staffs don't make trips to La Junta during the spring signing period just to chat, so they were definitely there recruiting someone). That's just one example.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Another D1 signee from a Wyoming JUCO, Gillette College, that I don't think we pursued.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/extra-points-blog/article75632862.html

This is getting old. That's 3 D1 talents the last 2 seasons right under our noses. Why are we not going after them?

Who says we aren't? Just because Wyoming isn't mentioned in the article doesn't mean we didn't pursue him. He may have had zero interest in UW and thus didn't mention them as a school pursuing him.

This day and age of social media, we would know if UW pursued/offered him or Bigby-Williams.

Disagree. Up until this article, there was no previous reports that I could find regarding offers from CSU, UNLV, or Creighton and he didn't even have a profile on most of the recruiting sites until a couple of days ago.

Even from our staff, if it wasn't for a tweet from the Otero Basketball coaches we wouldn't have known that we were recruiting players from Otero JC. There is nothing listed on any site and no evidence from our coaches social media feed. I still don't know who they were pursuing (likely either DJ Miles or VJ Holmes), only that they were visiting (and MWC staffs don't make trips to La Junta during the spring signing period just to chat, so they were definitely there recruiting someone). That's just one example.

Like another poster pointed out, if we were recruiting these guys, Jeremy would have had something on twitter about visiting a future Cowboy in G'town or something to that effect. Not too mention that the people in Gillette would have notice anyone from our staff watching or visiting. With this kind of talent in-state, our staff should be working closely building relationships with these JUCO coaches. Obviously, some of the transfer issues should be minimized if we recruit a Juco kid from our own junior colleges. It should be easier to get a kid from Gillette rather than Indian Hills or CSI just based on transfer of credits.

 

[cali2wyo]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

 

[poke_addict]

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[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

 

[Cowduck]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

Again, how do you know we didn't? It doesn't make sense to chase our tails (and wasting resources) going after kids who have no interest in Wyoming. Both of those kids attracted high-major attention early in their recruitment. It isn't hard to envision a call from a Wyoming staffer getting a response along the lines of "thanks but no thanks" and everyone moving on. Stop acting like everything you see on Twitter is the sum total of Wyoming's recruiting efforts.

 

[laxwyo]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

Again, how do you know we didn't? It doesn't make sense to chase our tails (and wasting resources) going after kids who have no interest in Wyoming. Both of those kids attracted high-major attention early in their recruitment. It isn't hard to envision a call from a Wyoming staffer getting a response along the lines of "thanks but no thanks" and everyone moving on. Stop acting like everything you see on Twitter is the sum total of Wyoming's recruiting efforts.

Does that mean we should stop recruiting Parker Stewart?

 

[poke_addict]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

I don't know if we went after Bigby-Williams but we definitely went after Boucher we were in is final 5 or 6 last year before he decided to go to Oregon

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

I don't know if we went after Bigby-Williams but we definitely went after Boucher we were in is final 5 or 6 last year before he decided to go to Oregon

From what I understand, we entered that race very late and never really had a shot. I could be wrong though

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

Again, how do you know we didn't? It doesn't make sense to chase our tails (and wasting resources) going after kids who have no interest in Wyoming. Both of those kids attracted high-major attention early in their recruitment. It isn't hard to envision a call from a Wyoming staffer getting a response along the lines of "thanks but no thanks" and everyone moving on. Stop acting like everything you see on Twitter is the sum total of Wyoming's recruiting efforts.

You don't think we would go watch them before we called? A couple of trips to Powell or Gillette is a helluva lot cheaper than Florida or California. Good grief.

 

[JimmyDimes]

Sellers played at Western in Rock Springs, and Dalton is a Wyoming Juco alum as well. If our coaches find a guy they like, they'll go after him. And just because some guys spend 1-2 years in the state doesn't give us any advantage over another D1 school. Actually, for those playing in Gillette, it probably gives us a disadvantage. Those kids probably want to get as far away as possible, haha.

Maybe thats the problem. This staff would rather go after Sellers and Dalton than Boucher and Bigby-Williams.... I have no illusion that being instate means we have first dibs or a better chance but having a 5% chance is better than NO CHANCE when we don't offer them....

Again, how do you know we didn't? It doesn't make sense to chase our tails (and wasting resources) going after kids who have no interest in Wyoming. Both of those kids attracted high-major attention early in their recruitment. It isn't hard to envision a call from a Wyoming staffer getting a response along the lines of "thanks but no thanks" and everyone moving on. Stop acting like everything you see on Twitter is the sum total of Wyoming's recruiting efforts.

Does that mean we should stop recruiting Parker Stewart?

I understand where Cowduck is coming from. There is no way to tell if we showed interest in one of the Wyoming JC guys or not. I do remember hearing that Shyatt tried to get Boucher. It doesn't make any sense to get bent out of shape because some fans are assuming we didn't try.

In regards to Parker....we know he is interested in Wyoming.....the others we don't.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Another point that needs to be made is that when we went after Boucher it was only because Sellers scholarship opened up if I remember correct. So if it wouldn't have then we would have never went after him anyways. So acting like we waited too long to go after Boucher is false. It is because we had no scholarships before that.

As far as Williams goes there was no way we were getting him either but again only reason people starting looking at him was because Trey Washington's scholarship opened up. Before that there was no scholarship. So we would have had to start recruiting him far too late to try to get him and by that time he was already getting offers from a bunch of high majors.

The only one that would have been a possible option would have been this last guy that went to Boise St.

You guys need to look at the situations that were happening at the time rather than just saying Wyoming didn't recruit them. When you try to recruit players that are high major types but get a late start (being more than half the season is already gone) only because another guy quits your team or gets kicked off and that is why you have an open scholarship then it is going to be damn hard to even have a chance at having the kid listen to one word you have to say.

Plus there is a lot that goes on that no one on this board is privy to as far as recruiting goes.