2016 recruiting thread....

[JimmyDimes]

Someone of the other board posted that Bryce Peters has 5 or 6 days to take the offer. If he doesn't, it belongs to Hunte. Time will tell.

 

[LanderPoke]

I can't video of Irshad Huunte. I'm not sure what to think, yet.

 

[TSpoke]

Come on Bryce pull the trigger. Join the Cowboys.

Not that I know anything about this kid. I just really want peters.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Is there any scenario that we land both? Obviously if Shyatt knows two people are leaving then yes, but is there any way we keep everyone and add these two?

 

[PokeOLoco]

Can basketball players greyshirt?

 

[TSpoke]

Is there any scenario that we land both? Obviously if Shyatt knows two people are leaving then yes, but is there any way we keep everyone and add these two?

No unless they would be willing to walkon. We can't even get one of these 2 guys and keep everyone we have. We already have our one recruit replacing Adams.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Can basketball players greyshirt?

Yes, I believe they can, so long as they have not enrolled full-time at any post-secondary school. This wouldn't be a bad idea considering the lopsided nature of our current class structure. Of course, the player would still count towards next year's class and if he didn't play would have the same eligibility remaining as the other 2017's.

 

[TheRealUW]

Can basketball players greyshirt?

Greyshirting isn't a possibility in college basketball because the season spans both the fall and spring semesters.

Truly, the only sports that offer a real opportunity to greyshirt are fall sports that are completed by the time spring semester rolls around. This is why it works in college football. The recruit can delay enrollment until the spring, thereby essentially bypassing that first season in its entirety.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Can basketball players greyshirt?

Greyshirting isn't a possibility in college basketball because the season spans both the fall and spring semesters.

Truly, the only sports that offer a real opportunity to greyshirt are fall sports that are completed by the time spring semester rolls around. This is why it works in college football. The recruit can delay enrollment until the spring, thereby essentially bypassing that first season in its entirety.

I believe basketball players can still gray shirt...the difference being in football, you only go part-time for 1 semester and are full-time in the spring. In basketball, these players would go part-time for the whole academic year and would enroll full-time after that. Because of this, it is obviously much more rare as they aren't allowed to play or practice with the team and receive no athletic financial aid for the first year.

 

[Cowduck]

Look, I understand the idea that we are overrecruiting because we are expecting attrition of some sort. I have mild problems with this concept from Wyoming's perspective, but I understand it. My question is, why would either of these dudes commit if we can't even guarantee that we have a scholarship for them? If I'm Bryce Peters and I'm between, say, Wyoming and CU, and I prefer the program at Wyoming all things being equal. But Wyoming can't look me in the eye and say "we guarantee we will have a scholarship to give you" and CU can. Why would I tell Wyoming that I'm committing? Because if I do that and CU fills their scholarship elsewhere and Wyoming doesn't have any transfers or whatever, I am scrambling.

 

[NowherePoke]

Look, I understand the idea that we are overrecruiting because we are expecting attrition of some sort. I have mild problems with this concept from Wyoming's perspective, but I understand it. My question is, why would either of these dudes commit if we can't even guarantee that we have a scholarship for them? If I'm Bryce Peters and I'm between, say, Wyoming and CU, and I prefer the program at Wyoming all things being equal. But Wyoming can't look me in the eye and say "we guarantee we will have a scholarship to give you" and CU can. Why would I tell Wyoming that I'm committing? Because if I do that and CU fills their scholarship elsewhere and Wyoming doesn't have any transfers or whatever, I am scrambling.

That won't happen though. If Peters signs a LOI with Wyoming then the staff will have a scholarship for him. I promise.

The better question is, would you want to commit to a school that anticipates attrition (and in a worst case scenario would elect not to renew another players scholarship in order to honor your LOI)? I think the reality is that transfers are so common in college basketball that over signing by one is not a big deal to most recruits as nearly every program sees players transfer at the end of each year.

The interesting one is Hunte. If reports are true, he is basically the second choice and knows it. That's unusual.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Look, I understand the idea that we are overrecruiting because we are expecting attrition of some sort. I have mild problems with this concept from Wyoming's perspective, but I understand it. My question is, why would either of these dudes commit if we can't even guarantee that we have a scholarship for them? If I'm Bryce Peters and I'm between, say, Wyoming and CU, and I prefer the program at Wyoming all things being equal. But Wyoming can't look me in the eye and say "we guarantee we will have a scholarship to give you" and CU can. Why would I tell Wyoming that I'm committing? Because if I do that and CU fills their scholarship elsewhere and Wyoming doesn't have any transfers or whatever, I am scrambling.

That won't happen though. If Peters signs a LOI with Wyoming then the staff will have a scholarship for him. I promise.

The better question is, would you want to commit to a school that anticipates attrition (and in a worst case scenario would elect not to renew another players scholarship in order to honor your LOI)? I think the reality is that transfers are so common in college basketball that over signing by one is not a big deal to most recruits as nearly every program sees players transfer at the end of each year.

The interesting one is Hunte. If reports are true, he is basically the second choice and knows it. That's unusual.

According to Holmgren, Hunte HAS NOT officially committed to Wyoming. Repeat, has not committed.

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[Cowduck]

Look, I understand the idea that we are overrecruiting because we are expecting attrition of some sort. I have mild problems with this concept from Wyoming's perspective, but I understand it. My question is, why would either of these dudes commit if we can't even guarantee that we have a scholarship for them? If I'm Bryce Peters and I'm between, say, Wyoming and CU, and I prefer the program at Wyoming all things being equal. But Wyoming can't look me in the eye and say "we guarantee we will have a scholarship to give you" and CU can. Why would I tell Wyoming that I'm committing? Because if I do that and CU fills their scholarship elsewhere and Wyoming doesn't have any transfers or whatever, I am scrambling.

That won't happen though. If Peters signs a LOI with Wyoming then the staff will have a scholarship for him. I promise.

The better question is, would you want to commit to a school that anticipates attrition (and in a worst case scenario would elect not to renew another players scholarship in order to honor your LOI)? I think the reality is that transfers are so common in college basketball that over signing by one is not a big deal to most recruits as nearly every program sees players transfer at the end of each year.

The interesting one is Hunte. If reports are true, he is basically the second choice and knows it. That's unusual.

Well, my question is why commit, not why sign an LOI. But even that raises an interesting question. Early signing period is Nov. 11-18. Even if we do have attrition, it isn't likely to happen by then. You are right, he won't sign an LOI if we don't have a scholarship to give. So what happens if he commits? He waits til the spring signing period? A lot can go wrong there.

Agree 100% about the optics of being a program that expects attrition and/or recruits over people.

 

[NowherePoke]

Look, I understand the idea that we are overrecruiting because we are expecting attrition of some sort. I have mild problems with this concept from Wyoming's perspective, but I understand it. My question is, why would either of these dudes commit if we can't even guarantee that we have a scholarship for them? If I'm Bryce Peters and I'm between, say, Wyoming and CU, and I prefer the program at Wyoming all things being equal. But Wyoming can't look me in the eye and say "we guarantee we will have a scholarship to give you" and CU can. Why would I tell Wyoming that I'm committing? Because if I do that and CU fills their scholarship elsewhere and Wyoming doesn't have any transfers or whatever, I am scrambling.

That won't happen though. If Peters signs a LOI with Wyoming then the staff will have a scholarship for him. I promise.

The better question is, would you want to commit to a school that anticipates attrition (and in a worst case scenario would elect not to renew another players scholarship in order to honor your LOI)? I think the reality is that transfers are so common in college basketball that over signing by one is not a big deal to most recruits as nearly every program sees players transfer at the end of each year.

The interesting one is Hunte. If reports are true, he is basically the second choice and knows it. That's unusual.

Well, my question is why commit, not why sign an LOI. But even that raises an interesting question. Early signing period is Nov. 11-18. Even if we do have attrition, it isn't likely to happen by then. You are right, he won't sign an LOI if we don't have a scholarship to give. So what happens if he commits? He waits til the spring signing period? A lot can go wrong there.

Agree 100% about the optics of being a program that expects attrition and/or recruits over people.

That's not how the LOI works though. It is a scholarship offer for the 16-17 season. The scholarships for our current players with remaining eligibility are not guaranteed for next year and there is nothing preventing any school from "over signing" on paper. We will sign two to a LOI in November one way or the other. The interesting question will be who does not return. Most of the time the problem will take care of itself as attrition occurs, but if nobody leaves than Shyatt will have to have a difficult conversation with a current player about their place in the program. I doubt that will happen though. Someone will elect to transfer for one reason or another. I would have to go back and research it, but I don't think we have had a year with no attrition in my memory.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Another option is to ask McManamen to use the Hathaway and free up his scholarship. Maybe that has been discussed as a fallback plan.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Another option is to ask McManamen to use the Hathaway and free up his scholarship. Maybe that has been discussed as a fallback plan.

This. He graduates this fall and would only require one class enrollment to stay on the team. I would bet money this is the approach they're taking

 

[DVDA]

Another option is to ask McManamen to use the Hathaway and free up his scholarship. Maybe that has been discussed as a fallback plan.

This. He graduates this fall and would only require one class enrollment to stay on the team. I would bet money this is the approach they're taking

That's interesting. If he graduates this fall, then what are the academic requirements for him to stay on the team for the next three semesters?

 

[cali2wyo]

Another option is to ask McManamen to use the Hathaway and free up his scholarship. Maybe that has been discussed as a fallback plan.

This. He graduates this fall and would only require one class enrollment to stay on the team. I would bet money this is the approach they're taking

That's interesting. If he graduates this fall, then what are the academic requirements for him to stay on the team for the next three semesters?

I think you have to be enrolled at least part time, I don't think graduate school is required either. I remember Matt Leinart took ballet classes his senior year at USC lol

 

[PokeOLoco]

Another option is to ask McManamen to use the Hathaway and free up his scholarship. Maybe that has been discussed as a fallback plan.

This. He graduates this fall and would only require one class enrollment to stay on the team. I would bet money this is the approach they're taking

That's interesting. If he graduates this fall, then what are the academic requirements for him to stay on the team for the next three semesters?

I think you have to be enrolled at least part time, I don't think graduate school is required either. I remember Matt Leinart took ballet classes his senior year at USC lol

Ballroom Dancing I believe... how fun would that be?

 

[poke_addict]

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