Agreement reached on exit and poaching fees

[McPeachy]

But this isn't really addressing what happened. The Pac 12 was gutted with 2 schools remaining. The MWC put them on life-support by scheduling 2025 games based upon a no poaching agreement. CSU secretly conspired with OSU and WSU with malice intended toward remaining MWC schools (and then bitched about scheduling Grand Canyon). This wasn't some innocent break up. This was a dirty affair by CSU that came to light. I'd be ashamed of UW if the roles were reversed. CSU prostituted itself. PAC could care less about CSU...they wanted BSU, SDSU, UNLV, and FSU. CSU has never done anything to show they deserve a better conference opportunity.

Burman failed UW monumentally by ditching our 2026 home game against North Texas, so we could play an away game at CSewe (oh, and it allowed CSewe to avoid the inevitable ass kicking in Indiana). Which likely would have spiraled them into a shit season in 2026. That is THE slap in the face in my opinion.

 

[Midwest Cowboy]

Burman failed UW monumentally by ditching our 2026 home game against North Texas, so we could play an away game at CSewe (oh, and it allowed CSewe to avoid the inevitable ass kicking in Indiana). Which likely would have spiraled them into a shit season in 2026. That is THE slap in the face in my opinion.

1000% agree with you. Burman should be compelled to provide his reasoning. Makes no sense at all.

 

[Bear Claw]

Am I the only one that thinks this "package deal" idea is insane? This is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on this board.

Why would CSU owe Wyoming anything? If CSU perceives the move to another conference as a "step up", why would they hurt their chances at seizing that opportunity by tying themselves to UW?

I would be pretty pissed off if UW were offered to move to a better conference and we turned it down because they wouldn't take CSU too. It all just seems mildly embarrassing to expect that CSU should be the one lifting us up with them as they move on.

It’s pretty naive to think the defecting schools were not having conversations with one another prior to making their decision to bolt. They were all sure clamoring for UNLV to join them and still may be. I didn’t write previously that it would have been a deal breaker for CSewe. I just would have had more respect for them had they been pushing to have their biggest rival join them in the move.

The PAC Stabbers conference looks better on paper but if a couple of schools bolt to another conference and a few more leave the MWC, we could easily be back in the same conference with CSewe.

 

[307bball]

All of the pearl clutching about “PAC stabbers” and “defectors” is a little silly to me. There’s no moral dimension here. Nobody “owes” Wyoming anything, and the schools left behind in modern college athletics aren’t being cheated so much as losing a market competition they were never positioned to win.

That doesn’t mean everything inside Wyoming has been handled well...it clearly hasn’t. Administrative mistakes, complacency, and a failure to adapt have absolutely made a difficult situation worse. But even if UW had been run far more effectively over the last 20+ years, the broader structural forces pushing schools like Wyoming toward the margins would still exist.

We may not like that reality, but it is reality. Forces far outside the borders of Wyoming now have more influence over the fate of UW athletics than anything happening inside the state.

College athletics has been a “what can you get away with?” environment for a long time. Schools maneuver for money, exposure, recruiting access, and survival. CSU didn’t betray some sacred covenant....they acted in what they believed was their institutional self-interest. Do not kid yourself....Wyoming would have done the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.

The uncomfortable truth is that UW simply doesn’t bring much leverage to the table right now. Historically, the one way programs like Wyoming could overcome structural disadvantages was through sustained competitive excellence and stability inside an amateur model that still allowed room for disruption (The Boise State pathway). But the sport has moved further and further toward a professionalized system where structural advantages compound instead of flatten out.

That doesn’t mean UW should give up. But I think people are misdiagnosing the problem if they think this came down to loyalty, betrayal, or CSU being uniquely immoral.

 

[doreno5]

Let me sum up- FU CSU don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out and take Burman with you!

 

[OrediggerPoke]

College football needs rivalries. Being angry at another program is entirely justified, but the answer isn’t to take your ball and go home. It’s to beat their ass on the field.

Is the answer to bail out that school from an ass whooping at Indiana, give them a 7th home football game, give away your best home game, so that you can play on the PAC’s new marquee channel USA Network?

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

From the Pac-12 perspective, the celebration is mostly about four things:

1. The conference avoided a potentially massive financial hit
2. The league preserved stability for its rebuild
3. Oregon State and Washington State kept control of Pac-12 assets
4. The lawsuit drama is finally ending

$90M is less than $150M....

Mmm, more like Oregon State will be in charge. Good luck suckas.

 

[phxpoke]

Am I the only one that thinks this "package deal" idea is insane? This is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on this board.

Why would CSU owe Wyoming anything? If CSU perceives the move to another conference as a "step up", why would they hurt their chances at seizing that opportunity by tying themselves to UW?

I would be pretty pissed off if UW were offered to move to a better conference and we turned it down because they wouldn't take CSU too. It all just seems mildly embarrassing to expect that CSU should be the one lifting us up with them as they move on.

This sucks because unfortunately, you are correct

 

[Wyokie]

The PAC Stabbers conference looks better on paper but if a couple of schools bolt to another conference and a few more leave the MWC, we could easily be back in the same conference with CSewe.

I'm convince we'll be back in the same conference with good ole Fort Fart again. As I said before, as soon as either/or both Oregon State and Boise State even gets a wiff of an invite to the Big 12, the PAC whatever will fall like a deck of cards.

 

[Brew_Poke]

Is the answer to bail out that school from an ass whooping at Indiana, give them a 7th home football game, give away your best home game, so that you can play on the PAC’s new marquee channel USA Network?

You forgot that we also get two late November home night games!

 

[Brew_Poke]

I'm convince we'll be back in the same conference with good ole Fort Fart again. As I said before, as soon as either/or both Oregon State and Boise State even gets a wiff of an invite to the Big 12, the PAC whatever will fall like a deck of cards.

If that happens, UNM and Air Force go to the PAC, and were left with Eastern Washington and Northern Colorado.

 

[Wyokie]

If that happens, UNM and Air Force go to the PAC, and were left with Eastern Washington and Northern Colorado.

Honestly, I don't think that'll happen.

IMHO, the only reasons why the reverse merger didn't happen...The PAC-12 Commish didn't want to lose their job (which I understand), Oregon State's ego thinking they are still relevant (which they clearly are not!), and finally, T.V. did a divide and conquer on both leagues so that they (TV) can lowball the T.V. deals.

 

[cowpoke pride]

I'm convince we'll be back in the same conference with good ole Fort Fart again. As I said before, as soon as either/or both Oregon State and Boise State even gets a wiff of an invite to the Big 12, the PAC whatever will fall like a deck of cards.

If the Big XII had any interest at all in Oregon St or Boise St, they would already be there.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

The CSU rivalry came out the schools history and common interests. The other now sees us as unworthy, does not see us as a rivalry anymore, left the conference and tried to wreck it as they left and sued us. I really don't want anything more to do with them.

It we be cool once determined, if we could just request CSewe to send a check to Wyoming for what they owe. I’d put an image of the check on my email signature.

 

[PorkerPoke]

It’s June 1 evening. The pee12 zealots “Con”Zano and his sidekick are pushing they are certain that the settlement will be $65-70 million or around 42-45% of the $155 which is the $65-70 million range. They claim it was the mediated amount from last year and the pee12 is the party coming away with smiles. They immediately jumped on the settlement amount (the amount they claim) and that it might be just enough to meet the GOR but could open the door for UNLV to look elsewhere.

According to the court:

The Parties shall file a notice of settlement, with an estimate of the time required to finalize the settlement and dismiss the case, by June 2, 2026 , and they may seek to vacate the hearing and case deadlines at that time.

We may not hear the complete settlement information on June 2. What we should expect to hear is if the case is vacated and a defined settlement date to meet the current court order. If the case is not vacated, then since no formal court filing to vacate the discovery hearing was made in May the parties will have to submit names in preparation for the June 9 discovery hearing by Friday June 5.

 

[PorkerPoke]

And as of June 2 the pee12 filed a 90 day stay.

NOTICE by Pac-12 Conference Joint Notice of Settlement and Stipulation and [Proposed] Order to Stay Case for Ninety Days(Goldberg, Nicholas)

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

It’s June 1 evening. The pee12 zealots “Con”Zano and his sidekick are pushing they are certain that the settlement will be $65-70 million or around 42-45% of the $155 which is the $65-70 million range. They claim it was the mediated amount from last year and the pee12 is the party coming away with smiles. They immediately jumped on the settlement amount (the amount they claim) and that it might be just enough to meet the GOR but could open the door for UNLV to look elsewhere.

According to the court:

The Parties shall file a notice of settlement, with an estimate of the time required to finalize the settlement and dismiss the case, by June 2, 2026 , and they may seek to vacate the hearing and case deadlines at that time.

We may not hear the complete settlement information on June 2. What we should expect to hear is if the case is vacated and a defined settlement date to meet the current court order. If the case is not vacated, then since no formal court filing to vacate the discovery hearing was made in May the parties will have to submit names in preparation for the June 9 discovery hearing by Friday June 5.

If this is the case, Gloria needs to be shown the door.

 

[Douglaspoke]

Honestly, I don't think that'll happen.

IMHO, the only reasons why the reverse merger didn't happen...The PAC-12 Commish didn't want to lose their job (which I understand), Oregon State's ego thinking they are still relevant (which they clearly are not!), and finally, T.V. did a divide and conquer on both leagues so that they (TV) can lowball the T.V. deals.

Both commissioners had huge conflict of interest. It may have been formally disclosed, but it should have been in BOLD to each conf school president. They both should have been removed from discussions relating to merger and an adhoc group formed re this topic. Too late now!! You now have a fairly good NPac12 and an averge MWC instead of the top flight G6 conference.