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Agreement reached on exit and poaching fees

cheypoke said:
Who cares. Since conferences are now pretty temporary and transient, they wont really have a rival. You don't develop "new" rivalries. We keep the Boot and move on. I like having UTEP back, we have the Paniolo Trophy, we have history with NM and we still have Howdy Doody to make fun of.
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I care. I love the rivalry. It adds to the whole "entertainment" factor of fandom.
 
McPeachy said:
I care. I love the rivalry. It adds to the whole "entertainment" factor of fandom.
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The CSU rivalry came out the schools history and common interests. The other now sees us as unworthy, does not see us as a rivalry anymore, left the conference and tried to wreck it as they left and sued us. I really don't want anything more to do with them.
 
Living in Texas, I heard this argument from both TAMU and UT fans when TAMU left for the SEC. TAMU fans hated that UT had their own TV network and dictated so much to the Big 12 conference. UT fans called TAMU backstabbers and said they had an overinflated view of themselves. Neither fanbase ever wanted to play the other ever again.

That lasted about 5 years. Now the annual UT vs TAMU game is the most anticipated game on both teams schedules again.

College football needs rivalries. Being angry at another program is entirely justified, but the answer isn’t to take your ball and go home. It’s to beat their ass on the field.
 
TheRealUW said:
Living in Texas, I heard this argument from both TAMU and UT fans when TAMU left for the SEC. TAMU fans hated that UT had their own TV network and dictated so much to the Big 12 conference. UT fans called TAMU backstabbers and said they had an overinflated view of themselves. Neither fanbase ever wanted to play the other ever again.

That lasted about 5 years. Now the annual UT vs TAMU game is the most anticipated game on both teams schedules again.

College football needs rivalries. Being angry at another program is entirely justified, but the answer isn’t to take your ball and go home. It’s to beat their ass on the field.
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There is a reason that the CSU game is the highest attended game on the schedule most every year. Rivalries with geographic relevance are just the best. Wyo/CSU was always great....
 
cheypoke said:
The CSU rivalry came out the schools history and common interests. The other now sees us as unworthy, does not see us as a rivalry anymore, left the conference and tried to wreck it as they left and sued us. I really don't want anything more to do with them.
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Which makes beating them even that much sweeter. That is, if we continue to play them.
 
TheRealUW said:
Living in Texas, I heard this argument from both TAMU and UT fans when TAMU left for the SEC. TAMU fans hated that UT had their own TV network and dictated so much to the Big 12 conference. UT fans called TAMU backstabbers and said they had an overinflated view of themselves. Neither fanbase ever wanted to play the other ever again.

That lasted about 5 years. Now the annual UT vs TAMU game is the most anticipated game on both teams schedules again.

College football needs rivalries. Being angry at another program is entirely justified, but the answer isn’t to take your ball and go home. It’s to beat their ass on the field.
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You do realize that UT and TAMU are again in the same conference, right?
 
I cannot stand CSewe but I would have given them a lot more respect had their move to the PAC2 been a package deal that included Wyoming. Instead they flipped their middle finger at UW and then filed a lawsuit to financially hurt Wyoming. I wouldn’t schedule another game with them for at least the next 10 years, just out of spite. FCSU and the sheep they back-doored in on.
 
Bear Claw said:
I cannot stand CSewe but I would have given them a lot more respect had their move to the PAC2 been a package deal that included Wyoming. Instead they flipped their middle finger at UW and then filed a lawsuit to financially hurt Wyoming. I wouldn’t schedule another game with them for at least the next 10 years, just out of spite. FCSU and the sheep they back-doored in on.
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Burman kept a sharp eye on staying inclusive with the sheep alright…

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cheypoke said:
Will that high attendance continue now? I doubt it. If Wyo beats CSU this year, they will bail on future games, count on it.
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For the near/medium term future, if CSU is on the schedule, that game will be the highest attended contest of the year barring a Nebraska, CU, or Texas type of team coming to town.

I can see a situation where, years from now, we have something like a border war relationship with the Dakota schools or something...but it's just not here yet.
 
307bball said:
For the near/medium term future, if CSU is on the schedule, that game will be the highest attended contest of the year barring a Nebraska, CU, or Texas type of team coming to town.

I can see a situation where, years from now, we have something like a border war relationship with the Dakota schools or something...but it's just not here yet.
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I'm all for trying to keep the streak of playing CSU annually for as long as possible. Rival hate is best part of college football. I hope they can work something out to play again in 2027 (without having to make as many concessions as Burman did for 2026) before the 9 game agreement kicks in in 2028.
 
Don't kid yourselves. The Dakota and Montana schools will pass us by, and we'll have a nice Border War with Northern Colorado and Black Hills State, maybe even Colorado School of Mines, at the trajectory we're on. And those schools will kick our asses all over the field, too.
 
Bear Claw said:
I cannot stand CSewe but I would have given them a lot more respect had their move to the PAC2 been a package deal that included Wyoming. Instead they flipped their middle finger at UW and then filed a lawsuit to financially hurt Wyoming. I wouldn’t schedule another game with them for at least the next 10 years, just out of spite. FCSU and the sheep they back-doored in on.
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Am I the only one that thinks this "package deal" idea is insane? This is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on this board.

Why would CSU owe Wyoming anything? If CSU perceives the move to another conference as a "step up", why would they hurt their chances at seizing that opportunity by tying themselves to UW?

I would be pretty pissed off if UW were offered to move to a better conference and we turned it down because they wouldn't take CSU too. It all just seems mildly embarrassing to expect that CSU should be the one lifting us up with them as they move on.
 
TheRealUW said:
Am I the only one that thinks this "package deal" idea is insane? This is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on this board.

Why would CSU owe Wyoming anything? If CSU perceives the move to another conference as a "step up", why would they hurt their chances at seizing that opportunity by tying themselves to UW?

I would be pretty pissed off if UW were offered to move to a better conference and we turned it down because they wouldn't take CSU too. It all just seems mildly embarrassing to expect that CSU should be the one lifting us up with them as they move on.
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I think it came from a few years ago. TB said that CSU, Wyo, AFA and New Mexico Presidents and AD's were going to stick together as a packaged deal due to financials and rivalries. I think that notion is now dead. I just think that is where the packaged deal idea came from.
 
TheRealUW said:
Am I the only one that thinks this "package deal" idea is insane? This is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on this board.

Why would CSU owe Wyoming anything? If CSU perceives the move to another conference as a "step up", why would they hurt their chances at seizing that opportunity by tying themselves to UW?

I would be pretty pissed off if UW were offered to move to a better conference and we turned it down because they wouldn't take CSU too. It all just seems mildly embarrassing to expect that CSU should be the one lifting us up with them as they move on.
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But this isn't really addressing what happened. The Pac 12 was gutted with 2 schools remaining. The MWC put them on life-support by scheduling 2025 games based upon a no poaching agreement. CSU secretly conspired with OSU and WSU with malice intended toward remaining MWC schools (and then bitched about scheduling Grand Canyon). This wasn't some innocent break up. This was a dirty affair by CSU that came to light. I'd be ashamed of UW if the roles were reversed. CSU prostituted itself. PAC could care less about CSU...they wanted BSU, SDSU, UNLV, and FSU. CSU has never done anything to show they deserve a better conference opportunity.

Also, UW probably won't (ever?) be in a position to reliably dominate CSU. That would be the only reason I'd want to continue playing them OOC. I'd rather just let the rivalry end. And in my mind, CSU could have easily been the voice in the room saying "rivalries are important...let's just merge".
 
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