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WYO @ BSU Thread

laxwyo said:
SDPokeFan said:
bladerunnr said:
SDPokeFan said:
jwy_poke said:
What a bunch of doom and gloom whinny asses.

Whoops, sorry. I'm glad we're 2-7 with no hope of improving.

SD Poke, it's a losing proposition to argue how bad your team is. I know. I've done it and regretted it.

I share your concerns. I get tired of hearing about all the talent that's on the way or is developing before our eyes. Personally, I don't see it. I've head about all the talent waiting in the wings too many times now. As I posted once before and probably shouldn't now, I will know we are making progress when I'm not wishing we had the other teams players.

We've only been in the ncaa tournament once since 1988. I've given up on us ever making it there again. My hope is that we can somehow consistently avoid the pig tail game in the MWC tournament. If we could make it to the semi finals every 3 or 4 years, that would be an added bonus. If that sounds like a modest goal, consider that since McClain left, we have had a losing conference record every year and we have only made it to the conference semifinals once. I don't want to remember how many times weve lost the pigtail game.

Well said. If it weren't for a cream puff OOC schedule, this would look like a Heath Schroyer team.

Heath would have like 7 wins right now


We are now in last place in the MWC
 
Cuttslam said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

Sure, chances are pretty good that seniors are going to be better than a bunch of freshmen and sophmores, that happens pretty regularly. It takes time to develop players, you can't compare a freshman and senior in most cases because the senior is more mature and has more experience, same with a sophmore and a senior. If you want to compare Nance as a senior with Washington this season we can do that in 2 years same with Adams and Gilmore or Adams and Martinez, or Grabau and Gilmore or Martinez. Wasn't it just a little while ago when many were talking about how well Grabau was playing, now he's a waste of a scholarship? Comparing seniors to underclassemen usually isn't a fair comparison. Take a step back and look at things for what they are, a young developing team that will struggle, I'm willing to wait for another year or two before throwing Shyatt under the bus for his lack of recruiting talented players--I remember on a thread where people where hesitant to give McClain much credit for winning when he did it with Shyatt's recruits and not his own, now Shyatt can't recruit quality players?

I don't get why everyone is so high on Grabau. The guy can't shoot.

If you are a slow white guy that cant jump or play fast, you must be a a great shooter. So far it a fail. Needs a red shirt


Hahaha cuttslam you're a fuckin moron dude.
Grabau can't shoot? What about his 2 buzzer beaters against New Mexico? 1 as the shot clock expired and 1 as the half ended and should have been an and1. The kid is .329, let's just call that .333, 1/3 from 3 on the season.
And the kid is a good ball handler.
Can't play basketball? Fuckin please. He was all state in high school as a sophomore and junior, then as he wanted to get noticed by colleges he went to a big school and won player of the year in colorado.

Go blow you're arizona wildcats idiot.
 
Cuttslam said:
laxwyo said:
SDPokeFan said:
bladerunnr said:
SDPokeFan said:
jwy_poke said:
What a bunch of doom and gloom whinny asses.

Whoops, sorry. I'm glad we're 2-7 with no hope of improving.

SD Poke, it's a losing proposition to argue how bad your team is. I know. I've done it and regretted it.

I share your concerns. I get tired of hearing about all the talent that's on the way or is developing before our eyes. Personally, I don't see it. I've head about all the talent waiting in the wings too many times now. As I posted once before and probably shouldn't now, I will know we are making progress when I'm not wishing we had the other teams players.

We've only been in the ncaa tournament once since 1988. I've given up on us ever making it there again. My hope is that we can somehow consistently avoid the pig tail game in the MWC tournament. If we could make it to the semi finals every 3 or 4 years, that would be an added bonus. If that sounds like a modest goal, consider that since McClain left, we have had a losing conference record every year and we have only made it to the conference semifinals once. I don't want to remember how many times weve lost the pigtail game.

Well said. If it weren't for a cream puff OOC schedule, this would look like a Heath Schroyer team.

Heath would have like 7 wins right now


We are now in last place in the MWC

So let's fire Shyatt hah dude?
Let's keep starting over and over.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Cuttslam said:
laxwyo said:
SDPokeFan said:
bladerunnr said:
SDPokeFan said:
jwy_poke said:
What a bunch of doom and gloom whinny asses.

Whoops, sorry. I'm glad we're 2-7 with no hope of improving.

SD Poke, it's a losing proposition to argue how bad your team is. I know. I've done it and regretted it.

I share your concerns. I get tired of hearing about all the talent that's on the way or is developing before our eyes. Personally, I don't see it. I've head about all the talent waiting in the wings too many times now. As I posted once before and probably shouldn't now, I will know we are making progress when I'm not wishing we had the other teams players.

We've only been in the ncaa tournament once since 1988. I've given up on us ever making it there again. My hope is that we can somehow consistently avoid the pig tail game in the MWC tournament. If we could make it to the semi finals every 3 or 4 years, that would be an added bonus. If that sounds like a modest goal, consider that since McClain left, we have had a losing conference record every year and we have only made it to the conference semifinals once. I don't want to remember how many times weve lost the pigtail game.

Well said. If it weren't for a cream puff OOC schedule, this would look like a Heath Schroyer team.

Heath would have like 7 wins right now


We are now in last place in the MWC

So let's fire Shyatt hah dude?
Let's keep starting over and over.
Stupid, I didn't say anything about firing Shyatt you stupid mother fucker or anything about starting over you fucking moron. Its a fact we are in last place you sunshine pumper. And what does the wildcats have to do with anything dumb fuck. Except they are 20-2 and overrated. HAHAHH you stupid fuck.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Cuttslam said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

Sure, chances are pretty good that seniors are going to be better than a bunch of freshmen and sophmores, that happens pretty regularly. It takes time to develop players, you can't compare a freshman and senior in most cases because the senior is more mature and has more experience, same with a sophmore and a senior. If you want to compare Nance as a senior with Washington this season we can do that in 2 years same with Adams and Gilmore or Adams and Martinez, or Grabau and Gilmore or Martinez. Wasn't it just a little while ago when many were talking about how well Grabau was playing, now he's a waste of a scholarship? Comparing seniors to underclassemen usually isn't a fair comparison. Take a step back and look at things for what they are, a young developing team that will struggle, I'm willing to wait for another year or two before throwing Shyatt under the bus for his lack of recruiting talented players--I remember on a thread where people where hesitant to give McClain much credit for winning when he did it with Shyatt's recruits and not his own, now Shyatt can't recruit quality players?

I don't get why everyone is so high on Grabau. The guy can't shoot.

If you are a slow white guy that cant jump or play fast, you must be a a great shooter. So far it a fail. Needs a red shirt


Hahaha cuttslam you're a fuckin moron dude.
Grabau can't shoot? What about his 2 buzzer beaters against New Mexico? 1 as the shot clock expired and 1 as the half ended and should have been an and1. The kid is .329, let's just call that .333, 1/3 from 3 on the season.
And the kid is a good ball handler.
Can't play basketball? Fuckin please. He was all state in high school as a sophomore and junior, then as he wanted to get noticed by colleges he went to a big school and won player of the year in colorado.

Go blow you're arizona wildcats idiot.

I must only be watching when he misses, because I haven't seen him hit a three-pointer yet.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Cuttslam said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

Sure, chances are pretty good that seniors are going to be better than a bunch of freshmen and sophmores, that happens pretty regularly. It takes time to develop players, you can't compare a freshman and senior in most cases because the senior is more mature and has more experience, same with a sophmore and a senior. If you want to compare Nance as a senior with Washington this season we can do that in 2 years same with Adams and Gilmore or Adams and Martinez, or Grabau and Gilmore or Martinez. Wasn't it just a little while ago when many were talking about how well Grabau was playing, now he's a waste of a scholarship? Comparing seniors to underclassemen usually isn't a fair comparison. Take a step back and look at things for what they are, a young developing team that will struggle, I'm willing to wait for another year or two before throwing Shyatt under the bus for his lack of recruiting talented players--I remember on a thread where people where hesitant to give McClain much credit for winning when he did it with Shyatt's recruits and not his own, now Shyatt can't recruit quality players?

I don't get why everyone is so high on Grabau. The guy can't shoot.

If you are a slow white guy that cant jump or play fast, you must be a a great shooter. So far it a fail. Needs a red shirt


Hahaha cuttslam you're a fuckin moron dude.
Grabau can't shoot? What about his 2 buzzer beaters against New Mexico? 1 as the shot clock expired and 1 as the half ended and should have been an and1. The kid is .329, let's just call that .333, 1/3 from 3 on the season.
And the kid is a good ball handler.
Can't play basketball? Fuckin please. He was all state in high school as a sophomore and junior, then as he wanted to get noticed by colleges he went to a big school and won player of the year in colorado.

Go blow you're arizona wildcats idiot.


My god you're stupid,ignorant and retarded.
 
Even though I'm skeptical about the future prospects for this team, I like Shyatt and think he is a fine coach. This is a competitive conference and the cupboard was pretty empty when he got here. As many have posted on here, the loss of Martinez to a team that was thin to begin with was a crippling blow.

This is the exact opposite of what Schroyer inherited. He took the best back court in the conference (Ewing and Jones) and made the team worse. He was a disaster from day 1 and half way through the season I posted that we have our very own Dale Layer. Schroyer couldn't beat the OOC cupcakes let alone compete in the MWC. It can't be easy to recruit after what Schroyer did to this program.

So, as hard as it is to watch what is happening, we have to be patient for another year or 2. I think it will be reasonable to expect better results by then.
 
:thumb: +1
I give props to Burman on this hire. In fact, I think Burman has done a good job with womens BB and wrestling coach hires too.
Keep these guys through thick and thin, and our level of competitiveness will grow.
I believe that Shyatt is our kind of coach. He love it here, wants to be here, knows the game, knows the state. He wins and loses with class, takes responsibility for losses, sticks by kids when they bow it-even when he has nothing to gain (lukey), and it looks like he is taking the long view in developing talent. Frankly, I dont care if he EVER wins the MWC (and I think he might someday) I just like the leadership he brings to the program.
In otherwords, he is exactly opposite of the asshattery and chaos that we see in the FB program.
 
Cuttslam said:
My god your are stupid,ignorant and retarded.

I don't have a dog in this fight you guys are having, I'm not taking sides. I also realize it's probably just a typo, but this sentence is ironic enough that I laughed my beer into my lap.
 
WyoAlum1987 said:
:thumb: +1
I give props to Burman on this hire. In fact, I think Burman has done a good job with womens BB and wrestling coach hires too.
Keep these guys through thick and thin, and our level of competitiveness will grow.
I believe that Shyatt is our kind of coach. He love it here, wants to be here, knows the game, knows the state. He wins and loses with class, takes responsibility for losses, sticks by kids when they bow it-even when he has nothing to gain (lukey), and it looks like he is taking the long view in developing talent. Frankly, I dont care if he EVER wins the MWC (and I think he might someday) I just like the leadership he brings to the program.
In otherwords, he is exactly opposite of the asshattery and chaos that we see in the FB program.
You honestly don't care if he ever wins a conference championship. Why bother playing then? As Herm Edwards would say, "You play to win the game! Hello?!"

By the way Jason McManamen started last night at had two points. Yeesh. And I'm getting a little sick of Shyatt's "but we played hard" quotes after every loss. Who cares? Win a game. This isn't the Special Olympics. Playing hard should be a given and won't get this team's name called Selection Sunday.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
Cuttslam said:
My god your are stupid,ignorant and retarded.

I don't have a dog in this fight you guys are having, I'm not taking sides. I also realize it's probably just a typo, but this sentence is ironic enough that I laughed my beer into my lap.

Good stuff
 
SDPokeFan said:
WyoAlum1987 said:
:thumb: +1
I give props to Burman on this hire. In fact, I think Burman has done a good job with womens BB and wrestling coach hires too.
Keep these guys through thick and thin, and our level of competitiveness will grow.
I believe that Shyatt is our kind of coach. He love it here, wants to be here, knows the game, knows the state. He wins and loses with class, takes responsibility for losses, sticks by kids when they bow it-even when he has nothing to gain (lukey), and it looks like he is taking the long view in developing talent. Frankly, I dont care if he EVER wins the MWC (and I think he might someday) I just like the leadership he brings to the program.
In otherwords, he is exactly opposite of the asshattery and chaos that we see in the FB program.
You honestly don't care if he ever wins a conference championship. Why bother playing then? As Herm Edwards would say, "You play to win the game! Hello?!"

By the way Jason McManamen started last night at had two points. Yeesh. And I'm getting a little sick of Shyatt's "but we played hard" quotes after every loss. Who cares? Win a game. This isn't the Special Olympics. Playing hard should be a given and won't get this team's name called Selection Sunday.

All of Shyatts recruits are underclassmen, and our best players are Schroyer recruits. The fact that we might win 20 games again, show that we have a good coach and the wins are going to come soon enough.
Think next year, Hankerson Jr, Nance, Jr, and Cooke Jr, all 3 will be juniors, and Sobey will be our ONLY senior. Along with Grabau and Bentz being Juniors as well. Adams and McManamen will be sophomores. This team will compete a lot next year. Will they go 14-0 in OOC play? Probably not, but like Coach Shyatt said when he got here the first couple seasons will be easy OOC play to show the kids they can win then after that it will get harder.

We can still beat Fresno and Nevada, both at home to avoid the pigtale game.

And as pissed as I was last night about our game, I have calmed down. We had a horrible first half, where if you watched Leonard he was playing WEAK D like he was already in foul trouble because he knew that he had no relief if he did get in foul trouble.
We still cut it to a 6 point game.
The team does not quit, and it had every reason to lately.
They need to get a couple Ws from Fresno and Nevada to play the 7 seed in the MWC tourney. Hopefully we have a full on healthy team and if it ends up being CSU ruin their MWC title hopes day 1 of the tourney.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Pokes are just going to have to stop playing 1940's style ball ( at least that's what it looks like). And how come BSU can get in for 10 ft. shots but the Pokes can't? Yup - this season is toast. I can't believe the Pokes won as may games as they did.

You're really up on this argument aren't you?
If thats the case, then why is this style of ball what has got us two winning seasons and no blow out losses? Besides, I believe Wiscy plays an even slower style motion and they win. I'm pretty sure, if we could make our "open shots" you wouldn't be complaining right now.
 
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

The teams best players are also Seniors, you got that, right? That's the way it should be.
Nance is a Soph, and has done a hell of a job. Adams Fresh, Cooke Soph( 1st year), Halderson Fresh, Grabau Soph, Sobey JR (1st year), McMan...Fresh... So what the hell do you expect?
 
kansasCowboy said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

The teams best players are also Seniors, you got that, right? That's the way it should be.
Nance is a Soph, and has done a hell of a job. Adams Fresh, Cooke Soph( 1st year), Halderson Fresh, Grabau Soph, Sobey JR (1st year), McMan...Fresh... So what the hell do you expect?

The youth argument doesn't hold water in basketball. Most of the best players in the country are freshman. Michigan went to back to back final fours with the Fab Five. If you want to say the players are young AND not good, fine. But don't just blame youth.
 
SDPokeFan said:
kansasCowboy said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

The teams best players are also Seniors, you got that, right? That's the way it should be.
Nance is a Soph, and has done a hell of a job. Adams Fresh, Cooke Soph( 1st year), Halderson Fresh, Grabau Soph, Sobey JR (1st year), McMan...Fresh... So what the hell do you expect?

The youth argument doesn't hold water in basketball. Most of the best players in the country are freshman. Michigan went to back to back final fours with the Fab Five. If you want to say the players are young AND not good, fine. But don't just blame youth.

The argument doesn't matter in college basketball when you are recruiting the fucking FAB FIVE. or if you are john calipari.
Look at Jokim Noah for the bulls...who happened to be recruited by coach shyatt and won 2 NCAA titles when he was a junior and senior.
Just because we are in a time where 1 and dones happen doesn't mean that the youth argument doesn't matter.

And even if it didn't matter...he is still in year two of this program and has not had time to do shit.
 
although injured, Nance needs to realize he's the future of this team and to start playing more aggressive, taking it to the hole more and realize he's the leader and is almost a Junior, time to unleash this kid to his full potential. Also take the leash off of Josh and let him slash more, Leonard also, this motion offense is working on occassion but come on let's see this teams full potential and let them play an openned up style of ball. what can it hurt?
 
SDPokeFan said:
kansasCowboy said:
SDPokeFan said:
gbpoke said:
SDPokeFan said:
laxwyo said:
The recruits are fine. Sellers was a bad call. We could have used a body that might have a chance. Most are extremely young. I think we will be fine. We all thought we would be bad for a few years but kind of got spoiled

What do you base this on? The only three guys who can score are seniors. I think the needle is pointing down on this program.


Really? So Nance doesn't score much? It's true that our 3 leading scorers are all Seniors, but that happens to a lot of teams. We play just as many underclassmen as upperclassmen. Adams, Haldorson, McManamen are all Freshmen and Grabau, Nance, Cooke are all Sophmores. The young guys are developing nicely and in a season or two when Shyatts first class are seniors we can evaluate and see where the program is. It's premature to evaluate them as freshmen or sophmores and say the needle is pointing down on the program. It usually takes a season or two for players to adjust to D1 basketball, unless they are an exceptional talent--Bennet at UNLV--and let's face it those types of players aren't coming to Laramie at the moment if ever. Remember this was going to be a rebuilding period, Shyatt has just spoiled us with some pretty decent basketball and gotten us excited for things to turn around. Be patient, it could be worse we could be 0-9 in conference and 3-20 overall, which is where we would probably be with Schroyer at the helm.

The team's best players were recruited by Schroyer. You're aware of that, right?

The teams best players are also Seniors, you got that, right? That's the way it should be.
Nance is a Soph, and has done a hell of a job. Adams Fresh, Cooke Soph( 1st year), Halderson Fresh, Grabau Soph, Sobey JR (1st year), McMan...Fresh... So what the hell do you expect?

The youth argument doesn't hold water in basketball. Most of the best players in the country are freshman. Michigan went to back to back final fours with the Fab Five. If you want to say the players are young AND not good, fine. But don't just blame youth.

Really? Comparing Wyo to Mich and the Fab Five now? You really are a joke. Seriously, There are over 350 teams in Dl basketball, and Wyoming is one of those. Out of ALL those programs how many have impact freshman? UCLA? UNLV? How many others? Come on SDPoke use your head. You should be happy that we have a starting freshman in Adams who has done very well. No, he's not a leading scorer, but he does have solid games. And he makes solid plays. 6.5 ppg. And if I recall he had 13 against Boise. Not to mention 6 other games of 12 or more.
Then you have Nance a soph. (Shyatt recruit) avg'd 4.5 ppg and 4 rpg his fresh season. This year, 10.5 ppg and 7.5 rpg.

Now, lets go about your stupid comment. Out of the top 10 leading scorers in the country 2 are Juniors, Only 1 is a Sophmore: Kyle Vinales of CCSU. If you go top 20 in scoring the only other underclassmen was Tyler Pawes Soph of BYU. There were then four more juniors. The rest seniors.
If your talking top 10 in rebounds, their is 1 soph Eric Moreland at 10th, and only one Junior.

WAIT! I got it! It took me three tries but I think you must be talking about the top 10 shot blockers where number 1 and number 2 in the country are Freshman. Noel from Kentuckly and Obepka at St. Johns.
Other than that, if you expect us to pick up and overall guy like Bennett anytime soon, you need to be a fan of a program that can nab guys like that. Wyo is building. Our recruiting went from "slim pickens" to "Diamonds in the rough". And if we continue to succeed we may very well be going after some top talent. But I can say it won't be in the next few years.
 

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