Why Wyoming Can Beat Nebraska [WyoNation Blog]

[Wicks]

"Great" QB's turn the ball over more than one time per game trouble? That is news to me.

 

[Landlordos7]

Do you fusker fans realize that Martinez is and always will be a mediocre passer?

Honest question if he's that mediocre - what does that make Brett Smith, when their percentages and ratings are nearly the same?

You are wrong on martinez though he has upgraded from terrible to bad. He is a vanity QB who pads his stats against losing teams. Look at the splits.

1. I just don't understand how a bad quarterback can be first team all-conference in a BCS conference, and set to finish his career as one of only two quarterbacks in the history of the entire game to go for 9,000/3,000.

2. Oh, it's because he pads his stats against bad teams. Well, uh... I mean Taylor plays 3-4 bad teams a year for his stats - how many does Brett Smith play against?

 

[trouble]

"Great" QB's turn the ball over more than one time per game trouble? That is news to me.

He doesnt turn the ball over more than once a game...in 75% of his games... :lol:

TM is a very good QB for our offense, yeah, he turns the ball over against good teams a bit more than anybody likes, but hopefully that's shored up this year.

The turnover argument on Taylor is overplayed in my opinion, a lot of the turnovers he produces are when he is trying to make a play by himself or doing too much, which happened only against good defenses last year.

Supposedly this year he isn't going to do that. We will see once we get to November, till then Im sure he will keep a good hold of the ball.

 

[sandiegopoke]

Do you "Cowgirl" fans <snip>

Ah-ha, pulling out gender calls to make himself feel more "manly." I think he's exposed himself enough to quit responding to this troll.

 

[Cornpoke]

You conveniently didn't mention Wisconsin. If you're going to talk about defensive dumpster fires, but also refer to yourselves as an elite team I suggest you form a coherent sentence.

Im going to try and get a sneak peak at Kirkgaard tearing up your first team D tonight. :rofl: :rofl:

It is your team too dip shit you go to this school. It must be nice to be able to jump on any band wagon you want to. College athletics are not professional sports, you can't just pick who you like, you have a school and that is YOUR TEAM. If you don't like Wyoming then transfer and get the hell out and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You and all of the other jokes that call themselves fans are the biggest phonies in America, if you were a true fan you would be going for the Cowboys in this game, but instead you are a bandwagon douche bag that can't even have enough self respect to root for his own school.

I hate bandwagon students. I'd like to kick them all out. I take pride in MY SCHOOL WIN OR LOSE. Not just when it's convenient for me.

 

[stymeman]

Hallejullah

 

[Bryoming]

Does Chad Smith know Martinez has improved over the last two years, much like Brett Smith has improved. Hopefully over the next two years, Mr. Smiths blogging skills will improve as well.

And our Stadium isn't called War Memorial. So hopefully your team doesn't show up at the wrong stadium on saturday! :thumb:

Note that Chad Smith doesn't hide behind a screen name. He made very good points. Do you fusker fans realize that Martinez is and always will be a mediocre passer? You can win all the games in the world, but that doesn't make you a good QB. (Think Tebow)

A good Qb is subjective to the offense they are playing.

For the Zone read/spread offense that Nebraska runs, TM is a great QB. For the pro style attack that a team such as USC runs, TM would be a bad QB.

Taylor Martinez is not Peyton Manning, and nobody claims he is, but he runs our offense efficiently and makes many of the throws that he attempts. His throwing motion has gotten significantly better, he no longer throws off his back foot and is much much better at reading defenses than he was in 2011. My issue with this article is that he points out a bunch of things that were absolutely correct in 2011, but fairly off base in 2012.


As a side note, Brett Smith is not Peyton Manning either. I went back and watched some highlights and he has happy feet like Martinez used to, and has a very short arm delivery style which is just as weird as Martinez. Ive said before in another post that BS is the better pro prospect obviously but Martinez is not a terrible QB.

FINALLY a valid response. Martinez is a great fit for the system Nebraska has been running. I'm concerned that they're trying to change to more of a pass happy offense, but I'm sure they won't do anything that he won't be able to handle. I would argue that his 62% completion percentage is a result of having a run heavy offense and catching teams off guard with the pass.

I also agree that Brett Smith is no Peyton Manning. Far from it. However, he does have better passing skills than Martinez. I don't think either QB would have been a good fit for the other team when they were being recruited.

 

[trouble]

Does Chad Smith know Martinez has improved over the last two years, much like Brett Smith has improved. Hopefully over the next two years, Mr. Smiths blogging skills will improve as well.

And our Stadium isn't called War Memorial. So hopefully your team doesn't show up at the wrong stadium on saturday! :thumb:

Note that Chad Smith doesn't hide behind a screen name. He made very good points. Do you fusker fans realize that Martinez is and always will be a mediocre passer? You can win all the games in the world, but that doesn't make you a good QB. (Think Tebow)

A good Qb is subjective to the offense they are playing.

For the Zone read/spread offense that Nebraska runs, TM is a great QB. For the pro style attack that a team such as USC runs, TM would be a bad QB.

Taylor Martinez is not Peyton Manning, and nobody claims he is, but he runs our offense efficiently and makes many of the throws that he attempts. His throwing motion has gotten significantly better, he no longer throws off his back foot and is much much better at reading defenses than he was in 2011. My issue with this article is that he points out a bunch of things that were absolutely correct in 2011, but fairly off base in 2012.


As a side note, Brett Smith is not Peyton Manning either. I went back and watched some highlights and he has happy feet like Martinez used to, and has a very short arm delivery style which is just as weird as Martinez. Ive said before in another post that BS is the better pro prospect obviously but Martinez is not a terrible QB.

FINALLY a valid response. Martinez is a great fit for the system Nebraska has been running. I'm concerned that they're trying to change to more of a pass happy offense, but I'm sure they won't do anything that he won't be able to handle. I would argue that his 62% completion percentage is a result of having a run heavy offense and catching teams off guard with the pass.

I also agree that Brett Smith is no Peyton Manning. Far from it. However, he does have better passing skills than Martinez. I don't think either QB would have been a good fit for the other team when they were being recruited.

if you watched some of the comeback wins last year, teams knew we had to pass to get back into the game and knew it was coming. He still was completing passes and brought us back. Taylor is a better passer than a lot of folks here think, and while he is not a great thrower, he is very competent. Sure, our passing games at times relies upon the play action and catching teams off guard, but not always.

 

[Bryoming]

if you watched some of the comeback wins last year, teams knew we had to pass to get back into the game and knew it was coming. He still was completing passes and brought us back. Taylor is a better passer than a lot of folks here think, and while he is not a great thrower, he is very competent. Sure, our passing games at times relies upon the play action and catching teams off guard, but not always.

Fair enough. All every team hopes for is a QB that can get the job done. We'd all love to have someone that throws like Aaron Rodgers and runs like Mike Vick, but I haven't seen that guy yet. Like I said in my previous post, Martinez is a good fit for your team. As long as he is making the throws that he needs to make you guys will win games.

 

[trouble]

You conveniently didn't mention Wisconsin. If you're going to talk about defensive dumpster fires, but also refer to yourselves as an elite team I suggest you form a coherent sentence.

Im going to try and get a sneak peak at Kirkgaard tearing up your first team D tonight. :rofl: :rofl:

It is your team too dip shit you go to this school. It must be nice to be able to jump on any band wagon you want to. College athletics are not professional sports, you can't just pick who you like, you have a school and that is YOUR TEAM. If you don't like Wyoming then transfer and get the hell out and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You and all of the other jokes that call themselves fans are the biggest phonies in America, if you were a true fan you would be going for the Cowboys in this game, but instead you are a bandwagon douche bag that can't even have enough self respect to root for his own school.

I hate bandwagon students. I'd like to kick them all out. I take pride in MY SCHOOL WIN OR LOSE. Not just when it's convenient for me.

I dont understand this, so if you grow up all your life as a fan of one school then decide to go to a different school for whatever reason(Program, scholarship, etc) then that means you automatically drop any previous affiliation with that previous school/team and have to be a fan of that new school?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. That's insane.

 

[Wyokie]

You conveniently didn't mention Wisconsin. If you're going to talk about defensive dumpster fires, but also refer to yourselves as an elite team I suggest you form a coherent sentence.

Im going to try and get a sneak peak at Kirkgaard tearing up your first team D tonight. :rofl: :rofl:

It is your team too dip shit you go to this school. It must be nice to be able to jump on any band wagon you want to. College athletics are not professional sports, you can't just pick who you like, you have a school and that is YOUR TEAM. If you don't like Wyoming then transfer and get the hell out and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You and all of the other jokes that call themselves fans are the biggest phonies in America, if you were a true fan you would be going for the Cowboys in this game, but instead you are a bandwagon douche bag that can't even have enough self respect to root for his own school.

I hate bandwagon students. I'd like to kick them all out. I take pride in MY SCHOOL WIN OR LOSE. Not just when it's convenient for me.

I dont understand this, so if you grow up all your life as a fan of one school then decide to go to a different school for whatever reason(Program, scholarship, etc) then that means you automatically drop any previous affiliation with that previous school/team and have to be a fan of that new school?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. That's insane.

I agree.

I'm from Wyoming but ended up going to a NAIA college in Oklahoma (East Central) but I still root for Wyoming. Loyalty is a very BIG thing to me.

 

[YankPoke]

Wyokie, this doesn't apply to you NAIA and Division 1 are different levels of competition so who you root for in Division 1 does not matter. I am not saying give up the school you grew up rooting for, you can root for them on any other day, but when that team is playing the school that you attend or attended then yes you should be rooting for the shcool that you go to.

 

[TSpoke]

You conveniently didn't mention Wisconsin. If you're going to talk about defensive dumpster fires, but also refer to yourselves as an elite team I suggest you form a coherent sentence.

Im going to try and get a sneak peak at Kirkgaard tearing up your first team D tonight. :rofl: :rofl:

It is your team too dip shit you go to this school. It must be nice to be able to jump on any band wagon you want to. College athletics are not professional sports, you can't just pick who you like, you have a school and that is YOUR TEAM. If you don't like Wyoming then transfer and get the hell out and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You and all of the other jokes that call themselves fans are the biggest phonies in America, if you were a true fan you would be going for the Cowboys in this game, but instead you are a bandwagon douche bag that can't even have enough self respect to root for his own school.

I hate bandwagon students. I'd like to kick them all out. I take pride in MY SCHOOL WIN OR LOSE. Not just when it's convenient for me.

I dont understand this, so if you grow up all your life as a fan of one school then decide to go to a different school for whatever reason(Program, scholarship, etc) then that means you automatically drop any previous affiliation with that previous school/team and have to be a fan of that new school?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. That's insane.

I agree.

I'm from Wyoming but ended up going to a NAIA college in Oklahoma (East Central) but I still root for Wyoming. Loyalty is a very BIG thing to me.

Alma Mater trumps everything...Luckily for you I doubt UW will be playing East Central . There are a few exceptions but overall alma mater trumps everything. the SI college foootball mailbag had a discussion about it a few years back

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/09/15/heisman-trophy-mailbag/1.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/09/22/texas-mailbag/1.html

I agree with Stewart Mandel

Lots and lots of people have a "hometown" team they root for outside of their current school/alma mater. All I'm saying is, if your two teams happen to actually face each other (which, luckily for you, will soon be happening less frequently), I can't imagine not rooting for your school. College is such a formative time in a person's life, and, at most major football schools, game days are such an enjoyable part of the experience. If you're actually rooting against your own school, I'm guessing either you didn't enjoy college that much, or you don't see the point in rooting for CU because Texas is so much better.

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I think at the very least you don't go on the messageboard of the school you currently attend and talk shit about them.

 

[trouble]

I think at the very least you don't go on the messageboard of the school you currently attend and talk shit about them.

This is the one thing we can agree on. In terms of alma matter vs "first love", Ill go with the latter. My choice of college wasn't for the athletics and as I may wish for them to do well in all sports, they will not be rooted for over a school I have grown up watching and loving my entire life.

Just because you root for one team over your alma matter doesn't make you a traitor, it doesn't make you a terrible person, it just makes you true passionate fan of that team you grew up loving.

 

[T-Magic3]

Does Chad Smith know Martinez has improved over the last two years, much like Brett Smith has improved. Hopefully over the next two years, Mr. Smiths blogging skills will improve as well.

And our Stadium isn't called War Memorial. So hopefully your team doesn't show up at the wrong stadium on saturday! :thumb:

Actually that is a good catch on the stadium name.

You are wrong on martinez though he has upgraded from terrible to bad. He is a vanity QB who pads his stats against losing teams. Look at the splits.

Lol if Martinez pads his stats against losing teams, what does Brett Smith pad his against? Knowing you homers, probably Boise States and Utahs.. No he actually plays in the 6th or 7th best conference.. Good for Smith and his non padded stats.

 

[T-Magic3]

You conveniently didn't mention Wisconsin. If you're going to talk about defensive dumpster fires, but also refer to yourselves as an elite team I suggest you form a coherent sentence.

Im going to try and get a sneak peak at Kirkgaard tearing up your first team D tonight. :rofl: :rofl:

It is your team too dip shit you go to this school. It must be nice to be able to jump on any band wagon you want to. College athletics are not professional sports, you can't just pick who you like, you have a school and that is YOUR TEAM. If you don't like Wyoming then transfer and get the hell out and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You and all of the other jokes that call themselves fans are the biggest phonies in America, if you were a true fan you would be going for the Cowboys in this game, but instead you are a bandwagon douche bag that can't even have enough self respect to root for his own school.

I hate bandwagon students. I'd like to kick them all out. I take pride in MY SCHOOL WIN OR LOSE. Not just when it's convenient for me.

I was born and raised in eastern nebraska, so yes call me a bandwagon fan. Sorry I don't get off to UW sports and I came to UW for academic reasons. This may be my school, but it's not the team I root for. I'm sure you are from Wyoming and you were raised on UW athletics. I applaud you for sticking with them through thick and thin

 

[Cornpoke]

I think at the very least you don't go on the messageboard of the school you currently attend and talk shit about them.

This is the one thing we can agree on. In terms of alma matter vs "first love", Ill go with the latter. My choice of college wasn't for the athletics and as I may wish for them to do well in all sports, they will not be rooted for over a school I have grown up watching and loving my entire life.

Just because you root for one team over your alma matter doesn't make you a traitor, it doesn't make you a terrible person, it just makes you true passionate fan of that team you grew up loving.

Still doesn't mean we want you here. Be invisible on and off campus please.

 

[YankPoke]

T-magic3 I never cheered for the Pokes growing up, I just have more respect than to hate the school that I attend. Your school should trump everything and the fact that all you do is bash it is just ridiculous. If you don't like it then don't attend school here, and it is more than just athletics it is YOUR SCHOOL and not just sports you should support the school in anything.

 

[Wicks]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiQCwBmLRE4[/youtube]

This UW student/ Martinez Fan Boy needs to watch this then leave our school and state. Thanks!

 

[trouble]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiQCwBmLRE4[/youtube]

This UW student/ Martinez Fan Boy needs to watch this then leave our school and state. Thanks!

You do realize that clip is from 2011?


We keep asking if you are forgetting about 2012. It still seems like you are.