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trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.

Wyovanian said:
Well, then, you must be the exception to the rule about Nebraskans.

I guess you've never heard of things like Yellowstone, the Tetons, the Snowy Range, Mirror Lake, Veedauwoo, the Bridger Wilderness, the Wind Rivers, the Big Horns, the Absoroka, Devil's Tower, the western Black Hills, Jackson Hole, the Sierra Madres, Cheyenne Frontier Days... :roll:

It all depends on what you enjoy doing. I did my share of camping in my younger years, and when I have done it more recently Ive gone to Colorado.
 
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.
You have obviously never been to laramie during football season if you think TM is the only QB in this discussion who has had to deal with freak wind.....Was TM playing through two concussions last year? ON paper TM had a great year. Missing 10 quarters of football due to injury did nothing to help BS. He got hurt in the Toledo game and really never was quite right after that. Maybe its an excuse i don't know. That being said, He still had almost identical if not better numbers than TM. Yes both had moments of greatness and both had moments of head scratching ridiculousness. At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would like a player like Brett Smith and the skills he brings to the table over someone like TM. I don't thinks thats the brown and yellow coolaid either. Brett Smith is a much better passer from a mechanics standpoint and is a very good runner. TM is a decent thrower and a great runner.

I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

An honest response is that Taylor and Eric Crouch aren't comparable. Earlier on, yes. You guys won't believe me, and that's fine you don't need to, but you really don't get how much better of a passer he really is. We ended the regular season last year on a 6 game streak, coming from behind late in 4 of them. We won those games in clutch time on Taylor's arm, and against legitimate defenses. His mechanics are better, his accuracy is better, his arm strength is solid and he makes the plays when they count. Eric Crouch was a runner/athlete that could kind of throw - Taylor is a legitimate threat to beat you with his arm. He doesn't always make the greatest decisions, but physically he can make all the throws.

I wouldn't trade Taylor for anyone right now. If it wasn't about individual players, and was just conceptual, I would take a more refined passer with established good wheels (and those are sort of the type we've been recruiting). It's just that the dichotomy between your "throwing" quarterback and Martinez doesn't have nearly the gap in between that you think it does ;)
 
Landlordos7 said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

An honest response is that Taylor and Eric Crouch aren't comparable. Earlier on, yes. You guys won't believe me, and that's fine you don't need to, but you really don't get how much better of a passer he really is. We ended the regular season last year on a 6 game streak, coming from behind late in 4 of them. We won those games in clutch time on Taylor's arm. His mechanics are better, his accuracy is better, his arm strength is solid and he makes the plays when they count. Eric Crouch was a runner/athlete that could kind of throw - Taylor is a legitimate threat to beat you with his arm.

I wouldn't trade Taylor for anyone right now. If it wasn't about individual players, and was just conceptual, I would take a more refined passer with established good wheels (and those are sort of the type we've been recruiting). It's just that the dichotomy between your "throwing" quarterback and Martinez doesn't have nearly the gap in between that you think it does ;)
While I watch quite a few Nebraska games myself and I do disagree with you, I appreciate your honesty.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.
You have obviously never been to laramie during football season if you think TM is the only QB in this discussion who has had to deal with freak wind.....Was TM playing through two concussions last year? ON paper TM had a great year. Missing 10 quarters of football due to injury did nothing to help BS. He got hurt in the Toledo game and really never was quite right after that. Maybe its an excuse i don't know. That being said, He still had almost identical if not better numbers than TM. Yes both had moments of greatness and both had moments of head scratching ridiculousness. At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would like a player like Brett Smith and the skills he brings to the table over someone like TM. I don't thinks thats the brown and yellow coolaid either. Brett Smith is a much better passer from a mechanics standpoint and is a very good runner. TM is a decent thrower and a great runner.

I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

Do I think TM will ever be looked at as a NFL QB? Not in a million years, but he works perfectly in this system. BS is much more likely to hit the NFL and even be moderately successful.

TM has evolved into more than just a RB who can throw(Let's face it, TM is not a RB first and foremost. Straight line speed, the guy is not too shifty...at all). He vastly improved on his throwing, footwork and leadership last year. The thing with Martinez is that he only played 1 or 2 years as a QB in HS before college so he has most certainly been a work in progress. I bet BS has played QB for a lot longer than that.

As far as your question, I would prefer to take a QB like Tommy Armstrong(second string currently) who is a bit more of a polished thrower out of HS who can run as well than have a project QB.

The Eric Crouch thing can't be compared, as he was in the triple option system and didn't have to throw the ball nearly as much as they do now.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

If we had a better quarterback than Taylor Martinez I'd want him to play instead of Martinez. That's kind of a silly question. If you guys had a better quarterback than Brett Smith, would you want him to play or Smith? Obviously you'd want the better QB.

If you're asking if I want a pass-first, not-very-good runner at QB in Nebraska's current offense, the answer is no. I would not trade Martinez for Smith.

For this offense, for what we need Martinez to do, he's more than good enough. In Nebraska's four losses he led us to 30 or more points - more than enough to win each of those games. The problem we have isn't Martinez, it's the defense. Shore that up and this is a terrifying Nebraska team.
 
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.
You have obviously never been to laramie during football season if you think TM is the only QB in this discussion who has had to deal with freak wind.....Was TM playing through two concussions last year? ON paper TM had a great year. Missing 10 quarters of football due to injury did nothing to help BS. He got hurt in the Toledo game and really never was quite right after that. Maybe its an excuse i don't know. That being said, He still had almost identical if not better numbers than TM. Yes both had moments of greatness and both had moments of head scratching ridiculousness. At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would like a player like Brett Smith and the skills he brings to the table over someone like TM. I don't thinks thats the brown and yellow coolaid either. Brett Smith is a much better passer from a mechanics standpoint and is a very good runner. TM is a decent thrower and a great runner.

I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

Do I think TM will ever be looked at as a NFL QB? Not in a million years, but he works perfectly in this system. BS is much more likely to hit the NFL and even be moderately successful.

TM has evolved into more than just a RB who can throw(Let's face it, TM is not a RB first and foremost. Straight line speed, the guy is not too shifty...at all). He vastly improved on his throwing, footwork and leadership last year. The thing with Martinez is that he only played 1 or 2 years as a QB in HS before college so he has most certainly been a work in progress. I bet BS has played QB for a lot longer than that.

As far as your question, I would prefer to take a QB like Tommy Armstrong(second string currently) who is a bit more of a polished thrower out of HS who can run as well than have a project QB.

The Eric Crouch thing can't be compared, as he was in the triple option system and didn't have to throw the ball nearly as much as they do now.
Thats fair. Thanks for the honesty
 
knapplc said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I have an honest question for the Husker fans here. If there was a viable option right now, in camp, who was a legitimate "throwing" quarter back (not a running back who can throw), would you prefer that or stick with the model like Eric Crouch and TM?

If we had a better quarterback than Taylor Martinez I'd want him to play instead of Martinez. That's kind of a silly question. If you guys had a better quarterback than Brett Smith, would you want him to play or Smith? Obviously you'd want the better QB.

If you're asking if I want a pass-first, not-very-good runner at QB in Nebraska's current offense, the answer is no. I would not trade Martinez for Smith.

For this offense, for what we need Martinez to do, he's more than good enough. In Nebraska's four losses he led us to 30 or more points - more than enough to win each of those games. The problem we have isn't Martinez, it's the defense. Shore that up and this is a terrifying Nebraska team.
Not quite where I was going. I was asking if there was a legitimate starter option who's style was different than TM would you rather see that. Not if there was someone better than TM...
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Not quite where I was going. I was asking if there was a legitimate starter option who's style was different than TM would you rather see that. Not if there was someone better than TM...

Clearly the most important thing there wouldn't be Taylor Martinez or Player X, but whose skills best fit the system we want to run. In our system the QB has to be a running threat. If he isn't our Zone Read doesn't work, nor do most of Taylor's designed roll-outs.

It's a tough question to answer. I suppose a good answer would be that I'm not so attached to Martinez that I would be upset if we replaced him.
 
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.

Wyovanian said:
Well, then, you must be the exception to the rule about Nebraskans.

I guess you've never heard of things like Yellowstone, the Tetons, the Snowy Range, Mirror Lake, Veedauwoo, the Bridger Wilderness, the Wind Rivers, the Big Horns, the Absoroka, Devil's Tower, the western Black Hills, Jackson Hole, the Sierra Madres, Cheyenne Frontier Days... :roll:

It all depends on what you enjoy doing. I did my share of camping in my younger years, and when I have done it more recently Ive gone to Colorado.
Well, yeah, there's camping. There's also fishing (everything from deep lake fishing to some of the greatest fly fishing in the world), hunting, hiking, skiing, climbing, mountain biking, tubing, canoeing, kayaking, rafting, hell you can even surf on the Snake. Lots of arts, especially around Cody, Jackson, and Laramie. The whole state is one big season of weekend festivals in the summer, everything from brew-fests to bbq, from writing to television, from rodeo to music with current headliners. The food and beverage scene in Jackson is pretty amazing, as good as almost anything in Colorado. Lots of fresh local products. Wyoming's home to a great writing community with the likes of James Galvin, C.J. Box, Craig Johnson, and Annie Proulx calling it home. and it's one of the most photographed landscapes in the world.

Nebraska has the Corn Palace. Does Nebraska have a tourism bureau? What's its slogan- "Nebraska, from here you can see where you'd rather be!"?


 
Wyovanian said:
Well, yeah, there's camping. There's also fishing (everything from deep lake fishing to some of the greatest fly fishing in the world), hunting, hiking, skiing, climbing, mountain biking, tubing, canoeing, kayaking, rafting, hell you can even surf on the Snake. Lots of arts, especially around Cody, Jackson, and Laramie. The whole state is one big season of weekend festivals in the summer, everything from brew-fests to bbq, from writing to television, from rodeo to music with current headliners. The food and beverage scene in Jackson is pretty amazing, as good as almost anything in Colorado. Lots of fresh local products. Wyoming's home to a great writing community with the likes of James Galvin, C.J. Box, Craig Johnson, and Annie Proulx calling it home. and it's one of the most photographed landscapes in the world.

Nebraska has the Corn Palace. Does Nebraska have a tourism bureau? What's its slogan- "Nebraska, from here you can see where you'd rather be!"?


They don't even have that. The corn palace is in South Dakota. No wonder all these Nebraskans are so bent out of shape. The corn palace should be in Nebraska dammit. They have the best corn.....and not much else.
 
Wyovanian said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.

Wyovanian said:
Well, then, you must be the exception to the rule about Nebraskans.

I guess you've never heard of things like Yellowstone, the Tetons, the Snowy Range, Mirror Lake, Veedauwoo, the Bridger Wilderness, the Wind Rivers, the Big Horns, the Absoroka, Devil's Tower, the western Black Hills, Jackson Hole, the Sierra Madres, Cheyenne Frontier Days... :roll:

It all depends on what you enjoy doing. I did my share of camping in my younger years, and when I have done it more recently Ive gone to Colorado.
Well, yeah, there's camping. There's also fishing (everything from deep lake fishing to some of the greatest fly fishing in the world), hunting, hiking, skiing, climbing, mountain biking, tubing, canoeing, kayaking, rafting, hell you can even surf on the Snake. Lots of arts, especially around Cody, Jackson, and Laramie. The whole state is one big season of weekend festivals in the summer, everything from brew-fests to bbq, from writing to television, from rodeo to music with current headliners. The food and beverage scene in Jackson is pretty amazing, as good as almost anything in Colorado. Lots of fresh local products. Wyoming's home to a great writing community with the likes of James Galvin, C.J. Box, Craig Johnson, and Annie Proulx calling it home. and it's one of the most photographed landscapes in the world.

Nebraska has the Corn Palace. Does Nebraska have a tourism bureau? What's its slogan- "Nebraska, from here you can see where you'd rather be!"?




Nebraska actually brings in more visitors than you think with the College World Series, Henry Doorly Zoo(One of the top zoos in the Nation), SAC, etc. Sure, we don't have 8 thousand parks or lakes but Nebraska is home to many fortune 500 companies and has quite a good food and beverage scene(Im not sure I would consider Wyoming to be in the ballpark of Colorado in terms of beverages...).
 
They have Alliance and Valentine, high on my list!!!!!, yeah dude all in Omaha, used to live there had to bolt after 3 months, too cold and humid for my tastes, good food tho will give ya that one
 
I don't...

wait.

this has really turned into Wyoming residents talking smack to Nebraska residents that our state doesn't have much to do and theirs does?
 
stymeman said:
They have Alliance and Valentine, high on my list!!!!!, yeah dude all in Omaha, used to live there had to bolt after 3 months, too cold and humid for my tastes, good food tho will give ya that one


Nobody in Nebraska will ever tell you the weather is awesome here.


Like today...100 degrees and 50% humidity.


Lovely.
 
trouble said:
Wyovanian said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
trouble said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Landlordos7 said:
Wyoming will be able to move the ball.

How?
We will be able to move the ball because our receiving core is one the best (and most underrated) in the country and you have 3 Herrons? What a waste to have such good receivers and a running back that throws. The main reason we will MOVE THE BALL ALL OVER YOUR D is we have a true dual threat QB. Unlike Fraudtinez, Brett Smith is an elite college passer who is able to improvise/scramble with the best of them. I have my own questions about our D but make no mistake, we will move the ball.

How did that elite passer do in that Fresno State game? That was the 2nd best statistical defense you played all year(37th in the nation). 47% 158 yards 2TD and 1Int. Great.

How about Boise State? Ok, well he was 68% in that game but didn't throw a TD.


Remember who Brett Smith typically plays ball against. Throwing 5TDs against Idaho isn't impressive.

I don't really want to "talk shit" as you call it, but if you are going to start putting down Martinez, then maybe you should have some legitimate stats to back it up.

So 8 of 14 for 63 yards and no touchdowns against high powered Iowa is somehow blowing doors down? Atleast Brett Smith beats the shit out of teams he's supposed to ... and against wisconsin who wasnt ranked as high as Fresno State he threw no TDs and two picks. Look how I can twist stats too. If the two switched teams, TM would not have the same stats as BS and BS would have far superior stats to TM. Thats not even debatable. Anything else?


That Iowa game was just weird. There were winds upwards of 40mph in that game(Look it up if you don't believe me) so they didn't throw much, and when they did it wasn't pretty at times.

My point was that Martinez still performed at the same level against much higher/tougher competition than Smith did.


The other thing to remember, NU can actually run the ball, therefore the need to throw 3-6 TD passes a game are not needed.

Wyovanian said:
Well, then, you must be the exception to the rule about Nebraskans.

I guess you've never heard of things like Yellowstone, the Tetons, the Snowy Range, Mirror Lake, Veedauwoo, the Bridger Wilderness, the Wind Rivers, the Big Horns, the Absoroka, Devil's Tower, the western Black Hills, Jackson Hole, the Sierra Madres, Cheyenne Frontier Days... :roll:

It all depends on what you enjoy doing. I did my share of camping in my younger years, and when I have done it more recently Ive gone to Colorado.
Well, yeah, there's camping. There's also fishing (everything from deep lake fishing to some of the greatest fly fishing in the world), hunting, hiking, skiing, climbing, mountain biking, tubing, canoeing, kayaking, rafting, hell you can even surf on the Snake. Lots of arts, especially around Cody, Jackson, and Laramie. The whole state is one big season of weekend festivals in the summer, everything from brew-fests to bbq, from writing to television, from rodeo to music with current headliners. The food and beverage scene in Jackson is pretty amazing, as good as almost anything in Colorado. Lots of fresh local products. Wyoming's home to a great writing community with the likes of James Galvin, C.J. Box, Craig Johnson, and Annie Proulx calling it home. and it's one of the most photographed landscapes in the world.

Nebraska has the Corn Palace. Does Nebraska have a tourism bureau? What's its slogan- "Nebraska, from here you can see where you'd rather be!"?




Nebraska actually brings in more visitors than you think with the College World Series, Henry Doorly Zoo(One of the top zoos in the Nation), SAC, etc. Sure, we don't have 8 thousand parks or lakes but Nebraska is home to many fortune 500 companies and has quite a good food and beverage scene(Im not sure I would consider Wyoming to be in the ballpark of Colorado in terms of beverages...).
I'll put many, many Wyoming beers up against anything from Colorado any day. Our whiskey kicks azz too.

While Nebraska is home to many Fortune 500 companies, Wyoming is home to the people who own/ run them.

"Nebraska- like no place you'd rather be!"
 
Cheyenne's been humid the past few weeks, for our standards, 88 about 40%, but nothing like I'm coming to on saturday, t.g for AC and Valentino's lol
 
Landlordos7 said:
I don't...

wait.

this has really turned into Wyoming residents talking smack to Nebraska residents that our state doesn't have much to do and theirs does?
If you're bored in Wyoming, it's either because you chose to be or because everyone else is bored by you.

"Nebraska- where you can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles..."
 
It's been in the upper 90s with high humidity here lately. The humidity has gone down a bit in the last couple of days, but it's quite warm. Could be near 100 for the game. Be sure you hydrate before partaking at a tailgate.
 
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