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We are so out of it...
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Oh, PLEASE don't give Sawvell any ideas!!!!!
Morning Download: Wyoming football's NIL reportedly well below Montana, Montana State
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I’m not all that surprised by the NIL thing. Just use the majority to go get a good QB. The upside of NIL is that there are now a lot of really good players in the high school ranks that we have a shot at, even without any NIL deal, because the bigger schools are using so many roster spots on transfers themselves. Yeah, the ones who come in and perform will leave for a pay day somewhere else, but we can just apply the same approach the next year.That is the link I meant to postMorning Download: Wyoming football's NIL reportedly well below Montana, Montana State
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Honestly, I’m more disappointed to see CU got Lovo. I was hoping for Burman to retire and UW to make a run at Lovo - probably delusional thinking, but that was my hope.
OrediggerPoke
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How is being able to sign high school players that will leave in a few years an upside? This is absolutely puzzling to me.
You likely spend 2 years paying, feeding and developing those high school players to get 1 mediocre year out of them. They then leave after having been developed to go actually play for another team. That is a terrible strategy IMO. You aren’t going to win a ton of games by starting a team of 18 year olds. You really think we ‘won’ by bringing in Tyrese Boss and Markie Grant out of high school? As soon as they became serviceable, they were out the door and with 3 years of eligibility remaining.
We should be consistently going after JUCO, D2 and FCS players who can come in and play right away (ie Evan Eller, Bart Edmiston, etc..).
There is no doubt that NIL has been a net negative for UW football. I was simply pointing out one, and maybe the only one, upside that seems to have come out of the NIL era for a team like UW. Would I prefer that we signed a “lesser” high school player that stayed and developed for 4-5 years? Yes, I would. But those days are gone and our complaining isn’t going to ever change that.
Personally, my approach at UW would be the following:
1) Go get the best QB you can afford. If we are working with a budget of about $1.4 million, then I would aim to find a QB in the $1-1.1 million range.
2) Target proven D2/JUCO/FCS players to fill the O and D lines, linebacking corp, and safety/nickle spots.
3) Go after fringe Power 4 high school kids at the skill positions (RB/WR/CB).
Will it work every year? Of course not, but once you get a feel for your system and can really start identifying players that fit it, I think it would give us a chance at getting back to a Bohl like level of consistency.
Douglaspoke
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This is so way out of what College Football once was--so yes we are so out of it unfortunately.
Happy New Year everyone!
Happy New Year everyone!
OrediggerPoke
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While I am against paying college players generally over and above cost and a reasonable stipend, if I were the GM, I would spread money out with strict formulas that are followed almost without exception. Give no room for a player to complain about their ‘NIL’ because you are following the guideline that all teammates are bound to. If they don’t like it or can get more elsewhere, fine. Build the deepest roster you can with the money you got and some players are going to step up and shine. That’s how you might be able to build a ‘team’ in this new era.
The spend it all on a QB idea will flame out most times IMO when the QB takes a few hits from the marginal line protection and is either injured or packs it in. In addition, by spending it all on a QB, you are announcing that player king and starter. What kind of message does that send? Do teammates actually form a bond with a guy like that driving a Mercedes to practice while they are pooling their money for dominos pizza?
Predicting the future of CFB seems pretty tough but I can't imagine the trajectory of how talent accumulates at different schools is going to change in a direction that favors Wyoming any time soon. As it stands right now, any football team that has a "payroll" more than 15% or so more than us will bet more talented across the board with very few exceptions....including FCS schools.
It's grim out there for the Brown and Gold.
It's grim out there for the Brown and Gold.
PorkerPoke
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This is what I could come up with from the portal. I have heard Wyoming is talking to or offered a D2 QB but I can’t find anything on that as of today. ***Update - I found the prospect Wyoming is pursuing.***
Portal D2 QB’s:
Gavin Sukup - 2025 NFL draft prospect from Seward NE. He is ranked #4 passer and #6 total offense in D2. Smaller at 6’1” 188 he has 1 year since he went JC. Had zero offers out of HS despite putting up solid passing and rushing numbers for a HS about the size of Rawlins HS. Is definitely athletic. Has an offer from UTEP.
Marcus Stokes - The 9th ranked D2 passer #7 total offense and former 4 star who lost his Florida offer and was shunned by numerous FBS/FCS schools (including an HBCU) due to his singing the lyrics of a rap song that was viewed as making him a racist. Sounds like he is getting FBS attention and was said to have had discussions with Memphis. Has multiple FBS and FCS offers including the “P” schools.
Elijah Holmes - The #11 D2 passer #21 total offense dual threat QB is from Charlotte. Played one full season at Wingate. Is 6’2” 215. Might be the sleeper of the group. Has 9 FCS offers and is in contact with Georgia State and Buffalo. He has a January visit with Wyoming. His dad played football at Army.
Connor Ackerly The D2 #15 passer and #17 total offense from Tempe who played at Western New Mexico. He came out of high school at 6’1” and 160 lbs. Put up some solid numbers on an otherwise dismal team throwing for 2,999 and 30 TD’s in 11 games.
Alex Johnson The #13 passer. Has size at 6’5” and 230 but appears to have no rushing ability dropping him with negative rushing yards to #30 in total offense.
Donovyn Omolo The #21 passer and #3 total offense who can run averaging over 4 yards per attempt. He could be a sleeper as well. Played 1 year at Central Missouri. 6’2” and 210.
With all of these players how quickly could any adapt to FBS where every player is generally bigger and stronger is the key.
After watching numerous QB’s play at Wyoming over the past 25 years being more of a liability than a producer there very well could be a D2 QB that is much more effective at play making.
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bladerunnr
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Miami spent 4 million to get Carson Beck for 1 year. I think it paid off. QB is by far the most important position on the team. There is a chance that anyone we bring in will get shell shocked by our matador like offensive line. But you can have a deep roster and still be an also ran. But a better than average qb can lift the entire team. Cincinnati without Joe Burrow won 1 game. Buffalo without Josh Allen would be down with the Jets. Sadly, this staff is incapable of evaluating talent and is even less capable trying to coach it. So, I'd rather we spend the money on a new coach.
Coaching matters way more in college than it does in the pros. A lot of the innovation starts in college too.
ragtimejoe1
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I'd start my nil money in the trenches. I think you'd get more bang for your buck.
Food for thought. 6 home games. Average 22k in attendance = 132k total attendance. Charge every person through the gate $20 for talent fee. You approach 2.5 mill additional nil. If they revolt and stop attending, then the fanbase has spoken. Winning matters less than not paying players.
Food for thought. 6 home games. Average 22k in attendance = 132k total attendance. Charge every person through the gate $20 for talent fee. You approach 2.5 mill additional nil. If they revolt and stop attending, then the fanbase has spoken. Winning matters less than not paying players.
Bear Claw
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A good case in point is Cignetti at Indiana. He took the worst team in the Big 12 to the #1 team in the nation in two years. Most of the players on that team are not 4 or 5 star prospects. Hiring a good coach with a proven track record should be paramount. It should not be who you know but rather what does your past history reflect.
Indiana's turn-a-round is magnificent but let's not pretend that thier roster is low talent.
