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UW @ Iowa

Wyoklaelk said:
seattlecowboy said:
Wyoklaelk said:
This front 7 nonsense....we were able to run some outside the A gaps, but those runs didnt work all game and they kept getting called. The read option was thrown in just enough to make us look cute and that didnt work either. The problem was that these plays were called on 3rd down way too often and never worked . When we started the 2nd half running outside the a gaps and play action passing, we had success, albeit not sustained in any drive. Screw the amazing front 7 talk, they didnt blow us up and we held their run game in check enough to compete. The failure was the jr high play calling. Barely any throws downfield against their weak secondary, too many out routes and short curls, too many runs in a gaps and too much read option....that was garbage play calling. Nothing remotely attacked them. There was no identification of some offensive game plan to exploit anything. Iowa played solid and straight up, they did well, but we made it way too easy on them.

So explain to me then how their secondary was weak? Where was there evidence of this? Or are you just spewing non sense because you heard they were starting some new guys back there? I didn't see any evidence of a weak secondary.

I saw Wyoming receivers that couldn't get open and the couple of times they did they dropped the ball. So again how was their secondary weak?

The play calling didnt exactly test their secondary....that being said, yes, i am spewing a fairly accepted idea that their secondary was their weakness, especially with a starter sitting out. As our strength is supposed to be our qb play, seems like a logical game plan would have tested what i am spewing. The passing game was a jike with all the 5 yd out routes and 3 yd curls. Receivers didnt help the qb, and vigen didnt put anyone in a position to exploit anything.
Agreed 100%!


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bladerunnr said:
It was on espn.com that all the pro scouts feel the same way. They say he won't be drafted until maybe round 5 now. He might even be an undrafted free agent.

I call BS.

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joshvanklomp said:
bladerunnr said:
It was on espn.com that all the pro scouts feel the same way. They say he won't be drafted until maybe round 5 now. He might even be an undrafted free agent.

I call BS.

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I'm not sure what to write to someone who actually took my post seriously. Is that avatar a photo of your dad?
 
It was a frustrating game to watch for many reasons, but here are my thoughts. The play calling wasn't great but I think it was only a small contributor to our poor offensive performance. The lack of experience in the skill positions was glaring and magnified against a very strong defense. Whenever we tried to pass it deep, the receivers either weren't getting open, we're dropping passes, or Josh really wasn't getting the time he needed to make a play. There is no playcaller on this earth that would've been able to get good results with that execution.

But also, the final stats didn't really reflect a 21 point loss. The defense played well against a team that nobody thought they would be able to stop and even forced some turnovers. We nearly gained as many yards as they did. The special teams and the dropped TD was the only difference between a good close game and the blowout that it was. And while sure I understand that what ultimately matters in the game is the scoreboard, I don't think that you can look at this game and assume that we will be bad this season, we just had a bad game. We got some big game experience for an offense that sorely needs it. As a matter of fact ESPNs power index predicts us to still be favorites for 8 games this year, so I hope that nobody is thinking that the sky is falling on our season.
 
bladerunnr said:
joshvanklomp said:
bladerunnr said:
It was on espn.com that all the pro scouts feel the same way. They say he won't be drafted until maybe round 5 now. He might even be an undrafted free agent.

I call BS.

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/criscarter80/status/904021455519744000[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/904017755652976641[/tweet]

I'm not sure what to write to someone who actually took my post seriously. Is that avatar a photo of your dad?

Do we need to implement the green sarcasm rule for obvious sarcasm?
 
bladerunnr said:
I'm not sure what to write to someone who actually took my post seriously. Is that avatar a photo of your dad?

:D I thought there might've been a chance it was sarcasm, but with all the hot takes on the site today, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
 
joshvanklomp said:
bladerunnr said:
I'm not sure what to write to someone who actually took my post seriously. Is that avatar a photo of your dad?

:D I thought there might've been a chance it was sarcasm, but with all the hot takes on the site today, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

Here's how you can tell: If I'm posting a response to the wooden dummy from South Dakota, it's sarcasm. :D
 
here's my take from my visit, Iowa people are really cool didn't see much issues anywhere, except they are late arriving and have no fan etiquette, oh well. As for us this dumb 7 route hitch routes play by play gets very old, and when I did yell GO vertical, look what happened although the TD was called back, I thought the punt was blocked but that was truly a piss poor way to end the half. and the biggest thing that bothers me is our DB's turn around when you see the receivers eyes go up, that's playground 101....grrrrrr....but I'll say this w/o Iowa's 4 TO's this woulda been 42-3 easy......shore it up Pokes and refocus, but it was a fun road trip
 
stymeman said:
here's my take from my visit, Iowa people are really cool didn't see much issues anywhere, except they are late arriving and have no fan etiquette, oh well. As for us this dumb 7 route hitch routes play by play gets very old, and when I did yell GO vertical, look what happened although the TD was called back, I thought the punt was blocked but that was truly a piss poor way to end the half. and the biggest thing that bothers me is our DB's turn around when you see the receivers eyes go up, that's playground 101....grrrrrr....but I'll say this w/o Iowa's 4 TO's this woulda been 42-3 easy......shore it up Pokes and refocus, but it was a fun road trip

That must be the last thing for a DB to master because I saw the same thing happen last night in the Ga Tech game and it seemingly even happens in the NFL all the time.....so it clearly must be tougher than we think.
 
CM99 said:
stymeman said:
here's my take from my visit, Iowa people are really cool didn't see much issues anywhere, except they are late arriving and have no fan etiquette, oh well. As for us this dumb 7 route hitch routes play by play gets very old, and when I did yell GO vertical, look what happened although the TD was called back, I thought the punt was blocked but that was truly a piss poor way to end the half. and the biggest thing that bothers me is our DB's turn around when you see the receivers eyes go up, that's playground 101....grrrrrr....but I'll say this w/o Iowa's 4 TO's this woulda been 42-3 easy......shore it up Pokes and refocus, but it was a fun road trip

That must be the last thing for a DB to master because I saw the same thing happen last night in the Ga Tech game and it seemingly even happens in the NFL all the time.....so it clearly must be tougher than we think.
These guys are going full speed and the receiver always has the advantage. Corners have to react to a play rather than running a predetermined route. The smallest misstep can put you feet behind. Most of the time the receiver going for the ball allows the corner to close that gap. Corners definitely have one of the toughest tasks in football probably only behind the QB
 
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