Ummm...

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Another vote for TW3 over Lieberman here. I thought JMac looked fine except he couldn't make a shot.

More Marshall, More Trey, More Naughton

Less Lieberman, Less Dalton

Hopefully Justin James can contribute

I didn't hate Dalton but damn kid has to learn you can't foul shooters on the perimeter.... Holy hell. I think Naughton could be a really good player. He looked like a freshman but didn't look overwhelmed. And talk about big free throws for your first two college points... That was nice to see. This game will help our team in the long run WAY more than blowing them out...

 

[NowherePoke]

In terms of D2 over D1, another example is Dixie over UNLV a couple of years ago. UNLV still won 20 games (10-8 in the MWC) and swept us that year.

Having said that, we didn't look good at all. Going to be a tough rebuild. I think TW3, Adams, JMac, Marshall, Gorski, and hopefully Justin James can develop into a pretty decent perimeter rotation. No idea what will happen in the frontcourt though. Not sure who realistically comes off the bench. I think you have to play Naughton off the bench and live with the freshman mistakes.

 

[BeaverPoke]

JMac to me always looks a little uncomfortable but he seems to come through more often than not.

He is scrappy and fights for his boards and points.

People say they would rather win ugly than lose pretty and JMac fits that mantra to me.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

JMac to me always looks a little uncomfortable but he seems to come through more often than not.

He is scrappy and fights for his boards and points.

People say they would rather win ugly than lose pretty and JMac fits that mantra to me.

That's a fair point, this season could be a lot of wins ugly...

 

[NowherePoke]

Another vote for TW3 over Lieberman here. I thought JMac looked fine except he couldn't make a shot.

More Marshall, More Trey, More Naughton

Less Lieberman, Less Dalton

Hopefully Justin James can contribute

I didn't hate Dalton but damn kid has to learn you can't foul shooters on the perimeter.... Holy hell. I think Naughton could be a really good player. He looked like a freshman but didn't look overwhelmed. And talk about big free throws for your first two college points... That was nice to see. This game will help our team in the long run WAY more than blowing them out...

I was impressed by those free throws as well. I do think Barnes and Naughton will be a really good 1-2 punch at the "5" spot over the next couple of years. This year is going to be difficult though as they get experience. This was an odd game to try to evaluate those guys because Ft. Lewis basically plays 5 perimeter players (they started 4 guards and Haldorson, they did play one guy that liked to go inside off the bench). I don't think JB or Naughton will add much offensively this year, but they both have the size and athleticism to compete in the post in the MWC.

 

[Cowduck]

Result is meaningless when Shyatt explicitly wasn't managing the game to win. Adams sat out the last 14 minutes for chrissakes. Everyone must chill.

 

[FarmerPoke]

I thought Dalton looked pretty smooth on the offensive end, he's just such a toothpick! A year or 2 in the program is gonna do him wonders physically, but til then he's gonna get shoved around. I chuckled pretty hard when him and Lieberman got kinda tangled up in the first half with a couple ft lewis players, and Lieberman essentially pivoted right into Dalton and Dalton just got taken for a ride. Lieberman is 7 inches shorter than Dalton but only 10 lbs lighter, amazing how skinny some of these kids are coming out of high school haha, I guess I forget how skinny I was back in the day.

Edit* I forgot Dalton even had a year of community college as well, sheesh they must not feed kids anymore.

 

[LanderPoke]

Well I was at the game and I guess I'll just spit out thoughts. Herndon needs to get his skinny ass down in the post and stop being a pussy. if Mcmann is playing 20+ min we are screwed. Lieberman looks no better than last year. Not sure about Dalton, imo he needs a redshirt and I do see potential in him. Marshall should play 25-30 min. The freshman looked good.

We got roasted on the perimeter yet again. How is it that every team shoots 40% from three vs. us? Our defensive scheme is average at best. Shyatt is NOT a defensive genius like everyone thinks. Our offense is unbearale. Piss it out along the perimeter for 25 seconds...Yay. It's going to be a long damn season.

 

[calpoke25]

That wasn't a very good showing. I think the only players who looked ready to play significant MW minutes aside obviously Josh were Trey and Morris. I realize it's exhibition and some teams just get hot against you, but Ft Lewis also had a plethora of open looks. It's easy to get hot when you're wide open, regardless of what level you are. I shuttered thinking about what MW athletes at the likes of UNLV, NM, and SDSU will do to Dalton, I liked his effort though. He needs to shoot when he's open. I still don't believe JMac is a starter. Right now I'd go with Josh, Trey and Morris in the back court.

I think the team looks very, very raw. There is no leader or hierarchy besides Josh.It's Josh and 12 guys running around trying to figure out their place. Hopefully that will come with more experience.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Well I was at the game and I guess I'll just spit out thoughts. Herndon needs to get his skinny ass down in the post and stop being a pussy. if Mcmann is playing 20+ min we are screwed. Lieberman looks no better than last year. Not sure about Dalton, imo he needs a redshirt and I do see potential in him. Marshall should play 25-30 min. The freshman looked good.

We got roasted on the perimeter yet again. How is it that every team shoots 40% from three vs. us? Our defensive scheme is average at best. Shyatt is NOT a defensive genius like everyone thinks. Our offense is unbearale. Piss it out along the perimeter for 25 seconds...Yay. It's going to be a long damn season.

Herndon needs to do something different. He was nonexistent tonight. Barnes looked ok down there. Marshall needs heavy minutes as does TW3

 

[NowherePoke]

Well I was at the game and I guess I'll just spit out thoughts. Herndon needs to get his skinny ass down in the post and stop being a pussy. if Mcmann is playing 20+ min we are screwed. Lieberman looks no better than last year. Not sure about Dalton, imo he needs a redshirt and I do see potential in him. Marshall should play 25-30 min. The freshman looked good.

We got roasted on the perimeter yet again. How is it that every team shoots 40% from three vs. us? Our defensive scheme is average at best. Shyatt is NOT a defensive genius like everyone thinks. Our offense is unbearale. Piss it out along the perimeter for 25 seconds...Yay. It's going to be a long damn season.

Herndon needs to do something different. He was nonexistent tonight. Barnes looked ok down there. Marshall needs heavy minutes as does TW3

I think tonight was just a bad night for Herndon. He played significant minutes a year ago and has shown the ability to catch and finish heading toward the rim. I think he will be ok.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Another vote for TW3 over Lieberman here. I thought JMac looked fine except he couldn't make a shot.

More Marshall, More Trey, More Naughton

Less Lieberman, Less Dalton

Hopefully Justin James can contribute

I didn't hate Dalton but damn kid has to learn you can't foul shooters on the perimeter.... Holy hell. I think Naughton could be a really good player. He looked like a freshman but didn't look overwhelmed. And talk about big free throws for your first two college points... That was nice to see. This game will help our team in the long run WAY more than blowing them out...

Like I said earlier. A lot of potential, but the players are just inexperienced. And Dalton has some really good looking throws, but man is he a toothpick. But in the next couple of years, I think we'll see him put on some muscle.

The 3s were hard to watch. A lot of open 3s for us clunked off. A lot of guarded 3s for them went in.

 

[NowherePoke]

Gags has posted videos of the post-game press conference: http://www.wyosports.net/university...85c0-11e5-9e39-f7f73278de36.html?mode=youtube


Just watch and listen to Adams.....

 

[Yabadabadoo]

I know I'll get shit on for saying this.

I like the direction of the program, I like Shyatt (but not as much as many others do), and this team does have some very exciting, projectable, young talent, that will take some time (years) to jell.

That said I maintain that last year's Cinderella run through the MWC Tournament was an aberration of sorts, and that last year's team was not the best overall team talent wise in the conference (not close) -- in fact as I said last year, I thought they were a middle of the pack team in the MW.

They got hot at the right time and I was thrilled for it, but never did I believe that team was as good as the championship they happened to win.

This season I expect them to struggle through growing pains, and they'll be fortunate this season to finish with a CBI invite in my opinion.

Bombs now coming in 3...2...1

 

[cali2wyo]

I know I'll get shit on for saying this.

I like the direction of the program, I like Shyatt (but not as much as many others do), and this team does have some very exciting, projectable, young talent, that will take some time (years) to jell.

That said I maintain that last year's Cinderella run through the MWC Tournament was an aberration of sorts, and that last year's team was not the best overall team talent wise in the conference (not close) -- in fact as I said last year, I thought they were a middle of the pack team in the MW.

They got hot at the right time and I was thrilled for it, but never did I believe that team was as good as the championship they happened to win.

This season I expect them to struggle through growing pains, and they'll be fortunate this season to finish with a CBI invite in my opinion.

Bombs now coming in 3...2...1

Well, yeah. They were middle of the pack last year. But our coach orchestrated a championship run and made his team perform better than what it looked like they could do on paper. They didn't win the tournament on a fluke or an 8 lateral, poorly called kickoff return type play. They stuck to a plan that enabled them to outperform every team they faced in Vegas. Shyatt is capable of doing that consistently. You're right, this year may be rough. But because of that old guy in the sweater, moments of magic shouldn't be unexpected.

Its not a huge stretch to compare our basketball team talent level on a conference scale to our football team (one solid guy: Adams/Hill and a bunch of young guys) but I can guarantee Shyatt will set his team up for success much better than your savior Bohl has this season for his team.

Go ahead and predict doom and gloom for this season, you may be right. But you have no solid argument in your lack of approval for Shyatt while being one of the more vocal Bohlievers out there. If we could only have one of them at Wyoming, I'd take Shyatt. And it's not even close.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

Goddamn I'm schwilled out coming back in from a night out on the town. Did this really happen? Well I'll still be high off of last years championship for awhile so I don't care much. Can't wait to get to see these kids play. Hope the fans show up for a bit this year. Really hope they have some glimpses of good things to show up for!

Go Pokes! Win the next one. :thumb:

We might be having some more

this season

 

[Yabadabadoo]

I know I'll get shit on for saying this.

I like the direction of the program, I like Shyatt (but not as much as many others do), and this team does have some very exciting, projectable, young talent, that will take some time (years) to jell.

That said I maintain that last year's Cinderella run through the MWC Tournament was an aberration of sorts, and that last year's team was not the best overall team talent wise in the conference (not close) -- in fact as I said last year, I thought they were a middle of the pack team in the MW.

They got hot at the right time and I was thrilled for it, but never did I believe that team was as good as the championship they happened to win.

This season I expect them to struggle through growing pains, and they'll be fortunate this season to finish with a CBI invite in my opinion.

Bombs now coming in 3...2...1

Well, yeah. They were middle of the pack last year. But our coach orchestrated a championship run and made his team perform better than what it looked like they could do on paper. They didn't win the tournament on a fluke or an 8 lateral, poorly called kickoff return type play. They stuck to a plan that enabled them to outperform every team they faced in Vegas. Shyatt is capable of doing that consistently. You're right, this year may be rough. But because of that old guy in the sweater, moments of magic shouldn't be unexpected.

Its not a huge stretch to compare our basketball team talent level on a conference scale to our football team (one solid guy: Adams/Hill and a bunch of young guys) but I can guarantee Shyatt will set his team up for success much better than your savior Bohl has this season for his team.

Go ahead and predict doom and gloom for this season, you may be right. But you have no solid argument in your lack of approval for Shyatt while being one of the more vocal Bohlievers out there. If we could only have one of them at Wyoming, I'd take Shyatt. And it's not even close.

You read my note - yes?

Then you'll acknowledge that I never even came close to 'predicting' doom & gloom, rather, I stated that they'd sort of be up and down, inconsistent, and not get anywhere near last season's terrific and forever memorable year.

They have talent, they have youth, and they have some athleticism.

If they get a CBI invite this year it'll be a high mark for this season with this year's team.

 

[cali2wyo]

...they'll be fortunate this season to finish with a CBI invite

You read my note - yes?

Then you'll acknowledge that I never even came close to 'predicting' doom & gloom, rather, I stated that they'd sort of be up and down, inconsistent, and not get anywhere near last season's terrific and forever memorable year.

They have talent, they have youth, and they have some athleticism.

If they get a CBI invite this year it'll be a high mark for this season with this year's team.

Yep, I read it. You shared your opinion, my opinion is that your expectations of being "fortunate" to make the CBI is doom and gloom. 1/4 of last year's participants failed to win a majority of their conference games. Over 1/2 of the participants failed to reach 20 wins. I know this year won't be as successful as last, but unless Adams gets hurt (which hasn't happened in 3 years) there's no way we fall far enough to consider an invite to the CBI "fortunate". If that turns out to be our situation in March, I'd personally consider that doom and gloom.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

...they'll be fortunate this season to finish with a CBI invite

You read my note - yes?

Then you'll acknowledge that I never even came close to 'predicting' doom & gloom, rather, I stated that they'd sort of be up and down, inconsistent, and not get anywhere near last season's terrific and forever memorable year.

They have talent, they have youth, and they have some athleticism.

If they get a CBI invite this year it'll be a high mark for this season with this year's team.

Yep, I read it. You shared your opinion, my opinion is that your expectations of being "fortunate" to make the CBI is doom and gloom. 1/4 of last year's participants failed to win a majority of their conference games. Over 1/2 of the participants failed to reach 20 wins. I know this year won't be as successful as last, but unless Adams gets hurt (which hasn't happened in 3 years) there's no way we fall far enough to consider an invite to the CBI "fortunate". If that turns out to be our situation in March, I'd personally consider that doom and gloom.

Interesting, okay, I'll play along.

I say CBI would be an accomplishment for a team so young and inexperienced and having just lost their most dominant low post defensive player.

So now that I've gone on the record, I wish for you to do the same as well.

The 2016 Wyoming Cowboys will...

P.S. Permit me to remind you in case you aren't aware...Shyatt has had better rosters than the one he has this year that gladly accepted a CBI spot. So what's the shame of a CBI for this year's team?

 

[kansasCowboy]

Last season Oregon State lost to D2 Western Oregon in their exhibition.
Time to panic right?
The Beavers ended up 17-10, and had a win over #6 Arizona.

Beavs ended up 15-2 at home, and at one point were 16-7 on the season before the wheels fell off and finished 1-7.

The D2 exhibition doesn't matter, it doesn't count.
It's all about the coaches seeing what they have and messing with lineups and seeing how the players play with eachother.

With that said, I am a little taken back by the Pokes defense giving up points, and the offense not producing.

Sky is not falling, but the team is not going to be great. I still think this team has a great chance to make some noise this year.

Are you still hereby preaching and expecting NCAA or NIT at worst? I'm sure I could bust out the all original "I told you so", but I too, take this game lightly. This game was more for practice than play. Hence Adams not playing in the end. I think these guys will be competative but I see us coming up short. A lot...
I hold to my 14 to 17 wins. And even though you scoffed at me when I first said that, I find it funny that your example is a team that got... 17 wins.
Anyway. I hope you don't lose interest all together if the season doesn't reach your expectations.