Transfers...

[ELKMT]

Wyoming will be lucky to put any players into the NFL in the near future. Hell, maybe there’s more parity in everyone but the top 20 programs. Less talent but more parity. Is that what we saw in the MWC this year?

I think that is exactly what we saw. Wyoming likely can challenge in most years because the conference is complete garbage ( I think that will continue to be the case). All the more frustrating as far as winning a conference championship as Bohl can put quality defenses on the field. Even a mediocre passing game makes us competitive in this conference and he can’t or won’t figure it out.

 

[LawPoke]

Read on another board that there are already 500 transfers in the portal. 500. Young men had better be certain and careful before jumping. It’s no picnic out there.

 

[ELKMT]

Omotosho Already has offers from Oregon State and WVU, hopefully Bohl is getting in there and making some offers. Get a transfer and they can’t transfer again is that right?

 

[djm19]

Number of players in the NFL from:
Oregon State: 12
West Virginia: 15
Wyoming: 10

Now more than ever a move to a p5 does not equate to a greater opportunity to get to the NFL.

Going back to last year, I think Neyor will be buried at Texas this year. He won't play.
Cobbs is good, not great. Not sure a p5 is going to be in the cards.
Swen will land somewhere bigger but will not have the same impact he did here.
I love Cam's heart, but his will be a lateral move

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Omotosho Already has offers from Oregon State and WVU, hopefully Bohl is getting in there and making some offers. Get a transfer and they can’t transfer again is that right?

Yes and no. They get 1 free transfer. After that, if they want to transfer again they have to follow the old rules: either transfer down a division or sit out a year if they transfer to another FBS school.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Number of players in the NFL from:
Oregon State: 12
West Virginia: 15
Wyoming: 10

Now more than ever a move to a p5 does not equate to a greater opportunity to get to the NFL.

Going back to last year, I think Neyor will be buried at Texas this year. He won't play.
Cobbs is good, not great. Not sure a p5 is going to be in the cards.
Swen will land somewhere bigger but will not have the same impact he did here.
I love Cam's heart, but his will be a lateral move

All very true, BUT they will all likely get more NIL money at a power 5 school.

 

[WyoVaquero]

This is the new norm. A lot of teams have players transferring. Bohl just has to adjust to recruiting players from high school and the portal.

 

[laxwyo]

Omotosho Already has offers from Oregon State and WVU, hopefully Bohl is getting in there and making some offers. Get a transfer and they can’t transfer again is that right?

Yes and no. They get 1 free transfer. After that, if they want to transfer again they have to follow the old rules: either transfer down a division or sit out a year if they transfer to another FBS school.

They’ve had a separation between P5 and G5 for quite sometime even if it isnt official. They should allow penalty free transfers to G5 from P5 even after the free one.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

This is the new norm. A lot of teams have players transferring. Bohl just has to adjust to recruiting players from high school and the portal.

I look at other teams players in the portal and they typically have more backups transferring. For the past 2 years, virtually all of our transfers have been starters.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Yes and no. They get 1 free transfer. After that, if they want to transfer again they have to follow the old rules: either transfer down a division or sit out a year if they transfer to another FBS school.

They’ve had a separation between P5 and G5 for quite sometime even if it isnt official. They should allow penalty free transfers to G5 from P5 even after the free one.

If a guy is transferring multiple times, do we really want that headache?

 

[BeachPoke]

This is what we have to deal with, no one likes it but we have to move on. I had to look for some stats on the transfer portal, not a guarantee by any stretch. 2021 numbers, sure they are different depending on what site you pull up..
54% enrolled in a new school.
41% did not find a school to call home, we’re still looking.

59% of scholarship transfers received a scholarship at a new FBS school.
8%. Left the scholarship and became a Walk on.
33% remained without a destination.

 

[laxwyo]

They’ve had a separation between P5 and G5 for quite sometime even if it isnt official. They should allow penalty free transfers to G5 from P5 even after the free one.

If a guy is transferring multiple times, do we really want that headache?

If a guy left a G5 team to a P5 and it didn't work out, I'd 100% want that guy. The reasons guys transfer are a lot different now. If they leave a g5 for a p5, they're not transferring because they are a bad apple.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

This is what we have to deal with, no one likes it but we have to move on. I had to look for some stats on the transfer portal, not a guarantee by any stretch. 2021 numbers, sure they are different depending on what site you pull up..
54% enrolled in a new school.
41% did not find a school to call home, we’re still looking.

59% of scholarship transfers received a scholarship at a new FBS school.
8%. Left the scholarship and became a Walk on.
33% remained without a destination.

I'm pretty sure every single Wyoming football portal player found a landing spot last year with many of them going to P5s (2 went to FCS and both of those moves made sense). Based on who has announced so far this year, I think all of those guys so far find a FBS landing spot too.

 

[LanderPoke]

This is what we have to deal with, no one likes it but we have to move on. I had to look for some stats on the transfer portal, not a guarantee by any stretch. 2021 numbers, sure they are different depending on what site you pull up..
54% enrolled in a new school.
41% did not find a school to call home, we’re still looking.

59% of scholarship transfers received a scholarship at a new FBS school.
8%. Left the scholarship and became a Walk on.
33% remained without a destination.

I'm pretty sure every single Wyoming football portal player found a landing spot last year with many of them going to P5s (2 went to FCS and both of those moves made sense). Based on who has announced so far this year, I think all of those guys so far find a FBS landing spot too.

IMO we are not going to replace the talent that left through the portal, though we may come close (ultimately don't think we will find an impact player like Omothosho). BUT we may have talent just as good on the bench ready to step in. I wouldn't doubt it with how Bohl recruits and develops players..... on defense, at least.

 

[LawPoke]

I'm pretty sure every single Wyoming football portal player found a landing spot last year with many of them going to P5s (2 went to FCS and both of those moves made sense). Based on who has announced so far this year, I think all of those guys so far find a FBS landing spot too.

IMO we are not going to replace the talent that left through the portal, though we may come close (ultimately don't think we will find an impact player like Omothosho). BUT we may have talent just as good on the bench ready to step in. I wouldn't doubt it with how Bohl recruits and develops players..... on defense, at least.

I don't disagree Lander. I still think that WR recruiting and our WR coach are huge weak links. Sure, they found Neyor, but we need a talent upgrade, a coaching upgrade, and a scheme upgrade in the passing game if we are going to sniff a championship. I'd say the same also goes for QB. I am a simpleton in the world of football coaching and recruiting, but I wonder if Polasek is really a top drawer QB coach - or even serviceable. Watching our QBs this year and last, I would say he is not.

 

[LanderPoke]

IMO we are not going to replace the talent that left through the portal, though we may come close (ultimately don't think we will find an impact player like Omothosho). BUT we may have talent just as good on the bench ready to step in. I wouldn't doubt it with how Bohl recruits and develops players..... on defense, at least.

I don't disagree Lander. I still think that WR recruiting and our WR coach are huge weak links. Sure, they found Neyor, but we need a talent upgrade, a coaching upgrade, and a scheme upgrade in the passing game if we are going to sniff a championship. I'd say the same also goes for QB. I am a simpleton in the world of football coaching and recruiting, but I wonder if Polasek is really a top drawer QB coach - or even serviceable. Watching our QBs this year and last, I would say he is not.

Oh yeah, the offense is beyond repair and I have no illusions that any of that will change. 6 wins on the back of a good running game and stout defense, rinse, repeat. I see that as entirely possible even with the transfers that have occurred.

 

[LawPoke]

Just a small update - 1,000 players+ have entered the porthole.

131 FBS Teams. 85 Schollie Limit. 11,135 TOTAL schollie roster spots in all of FBS.

65 P5 FBS Teams. 85 Schollie Limit. 5,525 TOTAL schollie spots in all of P5 FBS.

You'd better be really sure about your talent or really unhappy where you are to roll those dice. Not all want to go P5. Not all are leaving to go up in level. But a lot are.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Number of players in the NFL from:
Oregon State: 12
West Virginia: 15
Wyoming: 10

Now more than ever a move to a p5 does not equate to a greater opportunity to get to the NFL.

Going back to last year, I think Neyor will be buried at Texas this year. He won't play.
Cobbs is good, not great. Not sure a p5 is going to be in the cards.
Swen will land somewhere bigger but will not have the same impact he did here.
I love Cam's heart, but his will be a lateral move

You're looking at statistics based largely on the pre-NIL and pre-transfer portal days. G5 schools will have a LOT less NFL players going forward because the NFL talent will largely transfer.

 

[laxwyo]

The MW will forever be weak now. A team could win 9 games and then 1 the next year because of transfers. Hit on bringing in portal players and you could win the conference. I think we're in for wild seasons.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

The MW will forever be weak now. A team could win 9 games and then 1 the next year because of transfers. Hit on bringing in portal players and you could win the conference. I think we're in for wild seasons.

Utah State is a good example of that. They are completely reliant on transfers and are all over the place the past 3 years.