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Time to face the facts

SDPokeFan

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This team is terrible. Most of these players don't belong on a Division I football team. The coaches surely don't. Time to blow this program up and start over.......again.
 
If they don't beat CSU next week, they won't win another game all season. Can we trade DC to New Mexico for Bob Davie?
 
I can't find a bright spot to look forward to. DC and his staff are crap coaches. From top to bottom they haven't had this team prepared for a single game this season. The D has really regressed.

I hate it but, we have to start over again.
 
Can't make a change today or tomorrow....not during Bronze Boot week.....but if CDC loses to CSU....he's finished.
 
I hate to talk about our players and I hate to agree with this thread but..... we just do not have division 1 players on this roster. At least not enough to be fielding a competitive team. I actually believe in this coaching staff minus some really dumb game day calls and I believe DC has done the best he can with the athletes we have.

So does that open another can of worms? Can we get the type of head coach who could recruit D1 quality talent to Laramie? That's the question I struggle with.
 
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Cornpoke said:
I hate to talk about our players and I hate to agree with this thread but..... we just do not have division 1 players on this roster. At least not enough to be fielding a competitive team. I actually believe in this coaching staff minus some really dumb game day calls and I believe DC has done the best he can with the athletes we have.

So does that open another can of worms? Can we get the type of head coach who could recruit D1 quality talent to Laramie? That's the question I struggle with.
When you are paid 1.2million you better recuit some talent, it isn't that happening
 
My observation is that the defensive secondary is the most glaring weakness of the team. Even Burns might not make the 1-st team of another MWC team. But how much of this deficiency is coaching? I think a lot.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
My observation is that the defensive secondary is the most glaring weakness of the team. Even Burns might not make the 1-st team of another MWC team. But how much of this deficiency is coaching? I think a lot.
Players, coaches....nothing is positive. We have a team that couldn't win the Big Sky this year, let alone the Mountain West.
 
Cuttslam said:
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Cornpoke said:
I hate to talk about our players and I hate to agree with this thread but..... we just do not have division 1 players on this roster. At least not enough to be fielding a competitive team. I actually believe in this coaching staff minus some really dumb game day calls and I believe DC has done the best he can with the athletes we have.

So does that open another can of worms? Can we get the type of head coach who could recruit D1 quality talent to Laramie? That's the question I struggle with.
When you are paid 1.2million you better recuit some talent, it isn't that happening

This is exactly it. The return on investment for this year is 1.2 million per win.
 
If this is the route to be taken - hear me out.

1.) Hire Joe Glenn as Head coach and pay him $200k a year. Probably a raise from what he is making today.

2.) As head coach, he shouldn't do any coaching, but only management of the team and handle media operations and be the public face of the football team.

3.) $1.2 million - $200K for Joe = $1 million. Joe then takes this and hires the best Offensive and Defensive coordinators he can find. He then sets expecations and goals for each division of the team. Essentially the team looks like two seperate teams with the OC being HC of one and the DC being HC of the other.

4.) ?????

5.) Profit.
 
nashvillepoke said:
Cuttslam said:
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Cornpoke said:
I hate to talk about our players and I hate to agree with this thread but..... we just do not have division 1 players on this roster. At least not enough to be fielding a competitive team. I actually believe in this coaching staff minus some really dumb game day calls and I believe DC has done the best he can with the athletes we have.

So does that open another can of worms? Can we get the type of head coach who could recruit D1 quality talent to Laramie? That's the question I struggle with.
When you are paid 1.2million you better recuit some talent, it isn't that happening

This is exactly it. The return on investment for this year is 1.2 million per win.

I'd be suprised if it exceeds $140K per win since anything above the base $190K is based on performance goals.
 
I think DC let the cat of the bag last season when he waited so long to sign the contract extension. IMHO, he was waiting for a call from Houston. I believe the players saw what was going on last season and DC is paying the price for it this year. He had already lost the players respect at the end of last season. If I were a player, I would not give 100% effort for a guy that doesn't even want to be here. If DC wants to right the ship, his only hope is to be honest with the players about his commitment to the program and that he was waiting for "that call". He could still be successful at WYO but he really needs to commit 100% to the program and stop waiting for "that call".
 
23handicap said:
I think DC let the cat of the bag last season when he waited so long to sign the contract extension. IMHO, he was waiting for a call from Houston. I believe the players saw what was going on last season and DC is paying the price for it this year. He had already lost the players respect at the end of last season. If I were a player, I would not give 100% effort for a guy that doesn't even want to be here. If DC wants to right the ship, his only hope is to be honest with the players about his commitment to the program and that he was waiting for "that call". He could still be successful at WYO but he really needs to commit 100% to the program and stop waiting for "that call".
He was waiting for a call from Houston that never came. He bluffed the entire deal.

I also agree most players are not a fan. I look at a coach like shyatt that I think truly wants to be here. If he truly wants to be here is kids buy into the program and there is success. DC does not want to be here so why would any player want to give 100% to that. I think some still do but not many.
 
Mo' money. A whole lot mo' money on thin's. 1.2 Mil for a HC ain't nothin'. Mo' money to build and buy and recruit etc.
Y'all'd probably faint dead away if I told ya.............
 
wyobrandon said:
3.) $1.2 million - $200K for Joe = $1 million. Joe then takes this and hires the best Offensive and Defensive coordinators he can find. He then sets expecations and goals for each division of the team. Essentially the team looks like two seperate teams with the OC being HC of one and the DC being HC of the other.

Um, this is how all Division I football teams work already. In fact when Glenn was at UW he didn't do anything with the O and D, he let coordinators and assistants run the show, the only thing he did during practice was special teams and encourage the O and D.

I also spent 2 years working with the football team at Wisconsin, and Bielema runs things the same. O and D are their own separate entities, occasionally come together to drill/scrimmage against each other, and HC oversees all but does few on-field adjustments himself.

J-Rod said:
Can't make a change today or tomorrow....not during Bronze Boot week.....but if CDC loses to CSU....he's finished.

I seriously doubt this will happen. Before "Howdy Doody"-gate, I would have told you there is 0% chance, but now I give it a 5% chance. Just way too much against it to pull the trigger after this season. Yes, DC has had one horrible, ridiculously bad, hell of a season. But on the other hand, he is the reigning MWC coach of the year and just received a fat extension. I see him getting a very short leash for the 2013 season, but that is the worst I forsee. Sorry to rain on the parade, but like most things I think making a sudden, rash decision while we are all angry about getting our asses kicked (again) isn't always the best course of action.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
wyobrandon said:
3.) $1.2 million - $200K for Joe = $1 million. Joe then takes this and hires the best Offensive and Defensive coordinators he can find. He then sets expecations and goals for each division of the team. Essentially the team looks like two seperate teams with the OC being HC of one and the DC being HC of the other.

Um, this is how all Division I football teams work already. In fact when Glenn was at UW he didn't do anything with the O and D, he let coordinators and assistants run the show, the only thing he did during practice was special teams and encourage the O and D.

I also spent 2 years working with the football team at Wisconsin, and Bielema runs things the same. O and D are their own separate entities, occasionally come together to drill/scrimmage against each other, and HC oversees all but does few on-field adjustments himself.

J-Rod said:
Can't make a change today or tomorrow....not during Bronze Boot week.....but if CDC loses to CSU....he's finished.

I seriously doubt this will happen. Before "Howdy Doody"-gate, I would have told you there is 0% chance, but now I give it a 5% chance. Just way too much against it to pull the trigger after this season. Yes, DC has had one horrible, ridiculously bad, hell of a season. But on the other hand, he is the reigning MWC coach of the year and just received a fat extension. I see him getting a very short leash for the 2013 season, but that is the worst I forsee. Sorry to rain on the parade, but like most things I think making a sudden, rash decision while we are all angry about getting our asses kicked (again) isn't always the best course of action.
The cause to kill the contract is pretty clear. Therefore I have to agree with the idea- if he loses to CSU, he's gone. No coach in my memory has been on thinner ice from day one. Even Dimmel, post pool table, was able to charm and meld, somewhat.

Christensen has fashioned himself as some kind of Bear Bryant- hard-nosed, no nonsense, winning. Except the winning part isn't there, and the no-nonsense part vaporized at the end of the AFA game. Even looking back over his body of work- the guy's never put a full team on the field. It's time to move on- offer him the rest of this season and $300K-500K to announce his resignation after the SDSU game, or fire him for cause while the cause is fresh and apparent.
 
I agree. What needs to happen? Cutout the cancer before it does more damage

Burman's MO? Support the coach, hope it blows over, if it doesnt and it begins to make Burman look bad--take action

Burman gave this guy $1.2 million and 5 years. He gave Schroyer the keys to the cookie jar too. What do the fans in Wyoming get in return? The opportunity to support the most embarrassing programs in the country.

We need to get rid of Burman and DC-Burman as soon as possible, and bring in someone who will return UW to national relevance!!! :tickedoff:
 
WyoAlum1987 said:
I agree. What needs to happen? Cutout the cancer before it does more damage

Burman's MO? Support the coach, hope it blows over, if it doesnt and it begins to make Burman look bad--take action

Burman gave this guy $1.2 million and 5 years. He gave Schroyer the keys to the cookie jar too. What do the fans in Wyoming get in return? The opportunity to support the most embarrassing programs in the country.

We need to get rid of Burman and DC-Burman as soon as possible, and bring in someone who will return UW to national relevance!!! :tickedoff:

Weird.
 
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