There better be some heads rolling

[Vapoke]

If Sawvel is let go would you bring him back as a DC? I ask because Virginia Tech brought their fired HC coach back as DC this season, Brent Pry.

 

[Steamboat]

I think signaling that the entire athletic department is not measuring up (meaning TB is canned) is far preferable to firing coaches as one offs. The General could send a loud message that cuts across all departments, sports and divisions (from admin to each sport to construction management to CJC, etc.) that what we have seen the past 5 years (and longer) is not acceptable. The only other idea is to get rid of both Burman and Welniak and say that the "good ol boys" no longer run the show both within and outside the organizations.

Remember when Lee Moon came to UW? He immediately began firing and hiring “his” people. That went over like a sack of dead babies.

 

[Vapoke]

Remember when Lee Moon came to UW? He immediately began firing and hiring “his” people. That went over like a sack of dead babies.

I remember that but I feel like some of his hires are still at UW.....Burman was one

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Not sure what is in his contract provisions. He probably has a $10M payout if he is let go prior to his June 2027 date. Remember that extension was done in total secret. Reeves could tell him to sit at home since the money is already spent on Burman.

OR Reeves fires the coach to send a message to the Athletic Department as a whole putting them on notice

I'd rather Sawvel just be successful because any buyouts affect other sports, specifically non-revenue, that could use the buyout money in their programs

Burmans contract is available online. I already posted it on here before. There’s no penalty provision in excess of the total amount due.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I had heard from a fairly good source that if we had lost yesterday, Sawful would've been fired. Can anyone with better connections confirm? I highly doubt that we'd run back the Sawful show and can the guy two games in - and it's not Burman's way. Candidly, there would be very little gained to fire JS now. The interesting play would be for the General to fire Burman and start a new search now. It would send a huge message that what he is rolling out is not acceptable.

I’m skeptical on this. It doesn’t make sense unless Burman is fired simultaneously and I just don’t see the BoT allowing that to happen as opposed to Burman serving out his time until June 2027.

 

[Vapoke]

I’m skeptical on this. It doesn’t make sense unless Burman is fired simultaneously and I just don’t see the BoT allowing that to happen as opposed to Burman serving out his time until June 2027.

You are probably right. Not sure if the new blood on the board would go for that. Though four have expiring terms in 2027.

 

[Steamboat]

I remember that but I feel like some of his hires are still at UW.....Burman was one

Not quite, Burman was the Director of Cowboy Joe Club and then UW Associate AD in 1995. Moon came on board in 1996. Tom Buchanan hired Burman as AD in 2006.

 

[TheRealUW]

If Sawvel is let go would you bring him back as a DC? I ask because Virginia Tech brought their fired HC coach back as DC this season, Brent Pry.

No.

He may be a decent DC, but that’s like being ‘friends’ with your ex. Just never works.

 

[bladerunnr]

No.

He may be a decent DC, but that’s like being ‘friends’ with your ex. Just never works.

Meh. IMO, the defense got worse when Sawvel arrived. The defense in the Air Farce (Bohl's last season) loss after we built a big lead was unforgivable. The defense against UNLV and Boise st that same season was MIA. He was the 3d best D coordinator during the Bohl era.

 

[PorkerPoke]

Meh. IMO, the defense got worse when Sawvel arrived. The defense in the Air Farce (Bohl's last season) loss after we built a big lead was unforgivable. The defense against UNLV and Boise st that same season was MIA. He was the 3d best D coordinator during the Bohl era.

Wyoming defense with Sawful as DC ranked an average of 6th in the MWC with 2023 the bright spot at 3rd.

Wyoming defense with Sawful as the head job and the son of CB the DC has an average rank of 7th in the MWC.

Wyoming offense with Bohl the head coach averaged 9th in the MWC.

Wyoming offense with Sawful as the head job averaged 11th in the MWC.

Currently the 2026 version of Sawful has the program at 9th on offense and the defense at 6th in the MWC ranks without playing any conference games yet.

The 5 year average rank for Wyoming in the MWC is 10th in offense and 6th in defense. That goes a long way in explaining why the program has a 5 year record of 30-33 (16-23) with Bohl guiding the program to 23-16 (12-12) the first 3 of those 5 years.

AFA was 38-25 (22-17) in the same stretch, was ranked behind Wyoming in total offense one time (2024) and was #1 in defense from 2021-2024. AFA happened to go 29-10 (16-8) during the last 3 Bohl seasons.

My point is look at the success of AFA football compared to Wyoming but AFA departed with their AD earlier this summer.

If the football program stays sub .500 this season for the third consecutive season Howdy Doody will probably be announced as a retirement kind of deal like Fisher DeBerry was after 3 losing seasons.

At Wyoming when it comes to being held accountable for mediocrity the silence is deafening.

 

[LanderPoke]

Meh. IMO, the defense got worse when Sawvel arrived. The defense in the Air Farce (Bohl's last season) loss after we built a big lead was unforgivable. The defense against UNLV and Boise st that same season was MIA. He was the 3d best D coordinator during the Bohl era.

he wasn’t even a good d coordinator. He just stepped into a good, well oiled machine and sort of, but not really, kept it going. How he became a D-1 head coach with his ironclad contract is astounding (should be investigated).