LanderPoke
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I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
fromolwyoming said:And moving the ball on teams we struggled to in previous years.J-Rod said:I don't have the numbers to compare, but it seems like this team is consistently winning the field position battle. A staple of Bohl's approach.
LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
joshvanklomp said:I mentioned this summer that two numbers had to change in order for this team to be successful: 3rd down offense and 3rd down defense
Offense
2015 - .333 (113th)
2016 - .420 (T-58th)
Defense
2015 - .456 (112th)
2016 - .425 (91st)
Any other numbers stand out to you as the key to our turnaround?
No doubt about it.stymeman said:going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
stymeman said:LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
Wyo2dal said:stymeman said:LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
I don't think Allen is better than Smith was. I think Allen is better coached and playing a non spread offense under Bohl we may have seen a completely different professional result for Smith.
The coaching staff is that much better now then it has been I the past.
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Cowboy Junky said:Wyo2dal said:stymeman said:LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
I don't think Allen is better than Smith was. I think Allen is better coached and playing a non spread offense under Bohl we may have seen a completely different professional result for Smith.
The coaching staff is that much better now then it has been I the past.
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Josh isn't as mobile as Brett, but he's mobile enough to hurt people. Allen's definitely got more physical skills: 6'5" and a huge arm.
No offense to Brett, but what Wyoming quarterback in the history of the program has the height, strength, cannon arm, quick delivery, accuracy, and mobility of Allen? There are a few that have one or two things that are better than Allen, but nobody I can remember has the same package of skills. No offense to Josh or Randy.
There are several Wyoming quarterbacks with a better quarterback brain than Josh has now, and more experience playing the position, but I'm confident Josh will develop that.
I will say, Smith did have good touch on his deep passes.LanderPoke said:B. Smith just did not have the physical tools of J. Allen. Allen is already better, imo.
fromolwyoming said:I will say, Smith did have good touch on his deep passes.LanderPoke said:B. Smith just did not have the physical tools of J. Allen. Allen is already better, imo.
Wyo2dal said:Cowboy Junky said:Wyo2dal said:stymeman said:LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
I don't think Allen is better than Smith was. I think Allen is better coached and playing a non spread offense under Bohl we may have seen a completely different professional result for Smith.
The coaching staff is that much better now then it has been I the past.
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Josh isn't as mobile as Brett, but he's mobile enough to hurt people. Allen's definitely got more physical skills: 6'5" and a huge arm.
No offense to Brett, but what Wyoming quarterback in the history of the program has the height, strength, cannon arm, quick delivery, accuracy, and mobility of Allen? There are a few that have one or two things that are better than Allen, but nobody I can remember has the same package of skills. No offense to Josh or Randy.
There are several Wyoming quarterbacks with a better quarterback brain than Josh has now, and more experience playing the position, but I'm confident Josh will develop that.
I don't disagree on the physical aspects at all. I just believe that Allen has a much better coaching staff around him and we can see the incredible difference it has made.
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Wyo2dal said:stymeman said:LanderPoke said:I think Josh Allen is worth about three wins by himself. QB play has been so much better and, as mentioned above, a lot of it is his ability to run.
going out on a limb but I truly think Josh is quite a bit better than even Brett Smith was, just sayin, Josh truly could be a consideration for NFL scouts to take a look at, but I thought that "kinda" with Brett too, look where we got there, lol
I don't think Allen is better than Smith was. I think Allen is better coached and playing a non spread offense under Bohl we may have seen a completely different professional result for Smith.
The coaching staff is that much better now then it has been I the past.
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Not if you take into account the final quarter in Lincoln, interceptions as an example.wyokoke said:How is that skewed? Wouldn't huge improvement be more accurate?WYCowboy said:The thing is that there is so much improvement going on across the whole team very quickly, that many of the stats are skewed.
So isn't that "skewed" the other way? Making us look even better if you take that out?Poke-proud said:Not if you take into account the final quarter in Lincoln, interceptions as an example.wyokoke said:How is that skewed? Wouldn't huge improvement be more accurate?WYCowboy said:The thing is that there is so much improvement going on across the whole team very quickly, that many of the stats are skewed.
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It would, but you can't take them out. They are part of the record.wyokoke said:So isn't that "skewed" the other way? Making us look even better if you take that out?Poke-proud said:Not if you take into account the final quarter in Lincoln, interceptions as an example.wyokoke said:How is that skewed? Wouldn't huge improvement be more accurate?WYCowboy said:The thing is that there is so much improvement going on across the whole team very quickly, that many of the stats are skewed.
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Never said we should take it out, I said our stats aren't skewedPoke-proud said:It would, but you can't take them out. They are part of the record.wyokoke said:So isn't that "skewed" the other way? Making us look even better if you take that out?Poke-proud said:Not if you take into account the final quarter in Lincoln, interceptions as an example.wyokoke said:How is that skewed? Wouldn't huge improvement be more accurate?WYCowboy said:The thing is that there is so much improvement going on across the whole team very quickly, that many of the stats are skewed.
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