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Tevis Bartlett Update

Cornpoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
My point is that it is ridiculous to think that a kid who plays at wyoming has a better shot of going pro than a kid playing at stanford or oregon.

If the way to the NFL was through Wyo or CSU or any other MWC team, kids would be coming here in droves, not to Oregon Stanford and Florida.

You guys talk about him like he has the chance to go pro and be a standout. The best place for him to do that is at CU. He will stick out at CU, and be close to home, and play against Pac12 competition so people would know he is legit.

If he plays at Wyo, he is another Brett or ACS. Great against smaller competition with a combined 3 days of NFL experience. Where as these Pac12 schools send players to the NFL on a regular basis.
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Let's hope coach Bohl never takes you on a recruiting trip. You will have any prospect talked out of coming to Wyo in no time!
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:lol:
 
Thanks to Vorel for the clarification re: wrestling.
From what I understand Bartlett's a pretty smart kid. Wherever he ends up, Wyoming or somewhere else, I'm sure it will be because its the best fit for him. Sounds like he's approaching his recruitment with his eyes wide open. Best of luck to him.
 
Holy shit, talk about counting your chickens before they're hatched.

Kid doesn't even know what position he's going to be playing or started his senior year of HS and we're dubbing him the next Brett Smith and talking about his best NFL opportunity?
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
Holy shit, talk about counting your chickens before they're hatched.

Kid doesn't even know what position he's going to be playing or started his senior year of HS and we're dubbing him the next Brett Smith and talking about his best NFL opportunity?
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Who's said anything about the kid being a sure star? :?
 
Cheywypoke said:
Thanks to Vorel for the clarification re: wrestling.
From what I understand Bartlett's a pretty smart kid. Wherever he ends up, Wyoming or somewhere else, I'm sure it will be because its the best fit for him. Sounds like he's approaching his recruitment with his eyes wide open. Best of luck to him.
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This is as it should be.

For what it is worth, here is another example of a top-flight Wyoming prep athlete that went west to school. I cannot blame her, but the really good athletic programs succeed in all of the sports--not just revenue sports.

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&ATCLID=208434488
 
Cornpoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
My point is that it is ridiculous to think that a kid who plays at wyoming has a better shot of going pro than a kid playing at stanford or oregon.

If the way to the NFL was through Wyo or CSU or any other MWC team, kids would be coming here in droves, not to Oregon Stanford and Florida.

You guys talk about him like he has the chance to go pro and be a standout. The best place for him to do that is at CU. He will stick out at CU, and be close to home, and play against Pac12 competition so people would know he is legit.

If he plays at Wyo, he is another Brett or ACS. Great against smaller competition with a combined 3 days of NFL experience. Where as these Pac12 schools send players to the NFL on a regular basis.
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Let's hope coach Bohl never takes you on a recruiting trip. You will have any prospect talked out of coming to Wyo in no time!
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Cornpoke you are the man baby!

Your sentiments exactly are my own.

But Coach Bohl would take me or you with him to express the virtues of wearing The Steamboat.

That, and hey Tevis, are you reading all of this?

Think the Stanford or the Oregon board will give a rats ass if you go to either place with the kind of attention WE Pokes fans are giving you?

I'm not worried, Tevis.

You'll be a Poke.

As you should be.
 
The virtues of 'wearing the Steamboat?
Doc, I am not even half your age and have been wearing the Steamboat twice as long as you.
I am actually a UW student, and spent years going to Wyo games, bleeding Brown and Gold. Get over yourself with this whole "crusade" crap.

And cornpoke, you may want to get your panties up in a bunch about what I said, but it's the truth.
I want him to come to Wyoming, but basing off of what everyone else thinks his priorities are; being close to home, being a standout, and going to the NFL, CU is a much better fit than Wyo.

Here is why:
Boulder is not far from Cheyenne.
CU sucks, so he could be a 3 or 4 year starter there just like he could here.
CU is in the Pac12 so he is being a standout against better competition, therefore his NFL stock will go up.

I want him to come to Wyo, but based on what everyone else thinks his priorities are, I was just saying where the better fit is.
 
BeaverPoke said:
The virtues of 'wearing the Steamboat?
Doc, I am not even half your age and have been wearing the Steamboat twice as long as you.
I am actually a UW student, and spent years going to Wyo games, bleeding Brown and Gold. Get over yourself with this whole "crusade" crap.

And cornpoke, you may want to get your panties up in a bunch about what I said, but it's the truth.
I want him to come to Wyoming, but basing off of what everyone else thinks his priorities are; being close to home, being a standout, and going to the NFL, CU is a much better fit than Wyo.

Here is why:
Boulder is not far from Cheyenne.
CU sucks, so he could be a 3 or 4 year starter there just like he could here.
CU is in the Pac12 so he is being a standout against better competition, therefore his NFL stock will go up.

I want him to come to Wyo, but based on what everyone else thinks his priorities are, I was just saying where the better fit is.
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I would like to see a breakdown of CU alumni current NFL players. I don't think CU puts many more players in the NFL than Wyoming does.
 
Link for colleges that feed NFL:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CU doesn't have many more than Wyoming. But I'm with Beav on this one, regarding future opportunity. Brett's failure wasn't his performance here, but the fact that due to him being at Wyoming, he didn't get the cred or as important, the combine invite. He had a very short half a week opportunity to impress a known asshole and it didn't work out. As far as playing time, yes, we can honestly offer that opportunity. But do you think there is even one power conference coach that will be honest with a kid he's trying to recruit? If the kid wants to hear playing time, they'll tell him it's there. Once they got him, they can screw him over, as transferring is a nightmare. If the other school has a solid underclassman player in the same position and the recruit believes them, then that's the recruits own bad. Bohl and crew need to convince these recruits not only that they have a better chance of seeing the field at Wyoming, but also that the other coaches are lying if they say the same thing.
 
This was a post on a non-Wyoming forum about a non-Wyoming recruit, but I think it fits well into the current situation because they've also gone through some program rebuilding in recent years:

There's always going to be guys that want to go out of state. But, at least they have been in serious discussions with him. It's not a like a (insert player from years past) situation where they really never even had a shot.
 
The fact is that the gap between us and the P5 is larger than the gap between us the likes of NDSU. NDSU is a fine University as is Montana, but we would have an edge recruiting.

It is what it is.
 
I had a story that kind of fits with this. My brother ended up at Southern Cal for medical school and ended up staying a few years after his degree because he got hired quickly. Anyway, he was working one day when none other than Eric Leckner walks in and my brother ends up working on his shoulder. He struck up a conversation because he was out there while he was attending UW. According to Leckner, he had been recruited by UCLA but figured he wouldn't see the floor until the second half of his junior year or possibly his senior year. At Wyoming he knew he had a chance to play right away. He directly credited Wyoming for his ability to make it into the NBA. He said he doesn't think he would have made it if he wouldn't have had the extra game time. True Story!
 
cowboyz said:
Link for colleges that feed NFL:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CU doesn't have many more than Wyoming. But I'm with Beav on this one, regarding future opportunity. Brett's failure wasn't his performance here, but the fact that due to him being at Wyoming, he didn't get the cred or as important, the combine invite. He had a very short half a week opportunity to impress a known asshole and it didn't work out. As far as playing time, yes, we can honestly offer that opportunity. But do you think there is even one power conference coach that will be honest with a kid he's trying to recruit? If the kid wants to hear playing time, they'll tell him it's there. Once they got him, they can screw him over, as transferring is a nightmare. If the other school has a solid underclassman player in the same position and the recruit believes them, then that's the recruits own bad. Bohl and crew need to convince these recruits not only that they have a better chance of seeing the field at Wyoming, but also that the other coaches are lying if they say the same thing.
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I think many people forget Brett played in a the spread offense and wasn't used to the pro style offense he was trying to run at the Tampa rookie mini-camp. The spread hurts QB's trying to make it on an NFL roster. Has absolutely nothing to do with him playing at Wyoming...nothing at all.

Playing at Wyoming didn't affect either Robert or Quest getting combined invites.
 
The spread hurt Brett, but also none of the NFL teams and their scouts expected him to declare early, so they had no notes/reports/etc. on him that they would have if they had expected him to declare. All the scouts that visited were watching Herron and Quest.
 
An alternative theory is that Brett just didn't display traits that teams were willing to gamble on and it had nothing to do with the offense or team he played for.

Truth is, Brett has bad footwork and average or less arm strength. Hopefully some time in Canada will help in develop a little further, but if he had obvious potential, he would be looking at a NFL practice squad at worst.
 
Brett alluded to his footwork going to shit because DC kept telling him to get the ball out faster and faster.

Also, I read about the scouts not having proper notes and stuff from the scouts during that time.

Either way, hope he continues to learn and improve.
 
Let's not forget that, that list of 9 NFL players from Wyoming is bigger than it has ever been right now. That could be a good thing or a bad thing.
Good thing? Wyo has produced that much recently.
Bad thing? That's not "normal" for Wyo, who normally has far less.
As for CU, who has 14, over 150% more than Wyo, has been terrible for a decade and still has put that many in the NFL.
 
StarValleyPoke said:
I had a story that kind of fits with this. My brother ended up at Southern Cal for medical school and ended up staying a few years after his degree because he got hired quickly. Anyway, he was working one day when none other than Eric Leckner walks in and my brother ends up working on his shoulder. He struck up a conversation because he was out there while he was attending UW. According to Leckner, he had been recruited by UCLA but figured he wouldn't see the floor until the second half of his junior year or possibly his senior year. At Wyoming he knew he had a chance to play right away. He directly credited Wyoming for his ability to make it into the NBA. He said he doesn't think he would have made it if he wouldn't have had the extra game time. True Story!
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This makes sense. Who was the UCLA coach at the time? I know he was about the same age as the hotshot player for the Pacers.
 
The crusade continues...

Tevis Bartlett will be going to play his college football in Laramie, Wyoming.

Wyoming is the best place for him.

Wyoming is the best place for him.

Wyoming is the best place for him.

This thread may now be closed.

I have spoken.

I've guaranteed Bartlett's eventual arrival.

The matter may now be considered closed - officially.

Wyoming...or nothing at all?

Wyoming.

Elsewhere I have zero interest in the kid.

Harsh, I know.

Apologize?

Never.
 
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