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Starting QB job open for competition

BeaverPoke said:
How does 27 TDs to 6 INTS through 9.5 games sound? That doesn't show you enough. Please dude.

Did I say Smith would lose his starting spot? Nope. Just saying that Thompson will give him competition. The only thing Brett has on Thompson is experience so yeah he will most likely get the starting job. It's a fact that Thompson has a stronger arm though. I've seen far too many balls thrown by Brett that the receiver has to stop for 5 seconds and wait for the ball to get there.
I like Brett and think he is a tough kid and a good QB and a great person.... but anyone saying he is a top 15 qb in the country right now is the only one smoking something. Brett isn't even the best QB in the MWC. Sorry but going 4-8 doesn't prove squat to me. And any team that goes 4-8 then every position on the team should be open for competition thats all I'm saying.

Could Brett be top 15 in the country by the end of next year? Possibly.. but he will have to prove it. I know he needs more of the team to help him but going 4-8 again is not something that will make him a top 15 qb. I'm not saying Thompson will do any better but Thompson is physically gifted enough to to push Brett for the starting job. That is all.

Also I said he didn't do much against the better teams we played. Texas 37-17 loss ... Nevada 35-28 loss , Fresno St. loss 42-14, San Diego St. loss 42-28, Boise St. loss 45-14. Lets see him win a big game. Will Thompson do any better? Probably not.
 
seattlecowboy said:
BeaverPoke said:
How does 27 TDs to 6 INTS through 9.5 games sound? That doesn't show you enough. Please dude.

Did I say Smith would lose his starting spot? Nope. Just saying that Thompson will give him competition. The only thing Brett has on Thompson is experience so yeah he will most likely get the starting job. It's a fact that Thompson has a stronger arm though. I've seen far too many balls thrown by Brett that the receiver has to stop for 5 seconds and wait for the ball to get there.
I like Brett and think he is a tough kid and a good QB and a great person.... but anyone saying he is a top 15 qb in the country right now is the only one smoking something. Brett isn't even the best QB in the MWC. Sorry but going 4-8 doesn't prove squat to me. And any team that goes 4-8 then every position on the team should be open for competition thats all I'm saying.

Could Brett be top 15 in the country by the end of next year? Possibly.. but he will have to prove it. I know he needs more of the team to help him but going 4-8 again is not something that will make him a top 15 qb. I'm not saying Thompson will do any better but Thompson is physically gifted enough to to push Brett for the starting job. That is all.

Also I said he didn't do much against the better teams we played. Texas 37-17 loss ... Nevada 35-28 loss , Fresno St. loss 42-14, San Diego St. loss 42-28, Boise St. loss 45-14. Lets see him win a big game. Will Thompson do any better? Probably not.
Thompson may have the stronger arm, but Smith has better accuracy and touch. Kind of like SDSU's Ryan Lindley. Cannon arm, but accuracy and decision making were questionable at best, in comparison to Thompson.
 
Looking back on Brett's stats, man he was crazy good against Idaho, CSU, UNM, and UNLV.....unreal numbers. But outside of that, the rest of the performances ranged from good to terrible. Its the story of his career so far.....looks like a 5-star QB against the pasties, not as good against the better defenses.

Brett can be very good, but he proves time and time again that football is a team game. If the core around him (specifically O-Line and RB) do not improve, he's doomed to pull this charade the rest of his career. Good against the nobodies, average-to-bad against the somebodies.
 
seattlecowboy said:
BeaverPoke said:
How does 27 TDs to 6 INTS through 9.5 games sound? That doesn't show you enough. Please dude.

Did I say Smith would lose his starting spot? Nope. Just saying that Thompson will give him competition. The only thing Brett has on Thompson is experience so yeah he will most likely get the starting job. It's a fact that Thompson has a stronger arm though. I've seen far too many balls thrown by Brett that the receiver has to stop for 5 seconds and wait for the ball to get there.
I like Brett and think he is a tough kid and a good QB and a great person.... but anyone saying he is a top 15 qb in the country right now is the only one smoking something. Brett isn't even the best QB in the MWC. Sorry but going 4-8 doesn't prove squat to me. And any team that goes 4-8 then every position on the team should be open for competition thats all I'm saying.

Could Brett be top 15 in the country by the end of next year? Possibly.. but he will have to prove it. I know he needs more of the team to help him but going 4-8 again is not something that will make him a top 15 qb. I'm not saying Thompson will do any better but Thompson is physically gifted enough to to push Brett for the starting job. That is all.

Also I said he didn't do much against the better teams we played. Texas 37-17 loss ... Nevada 35-28 loss , Fresno St. loss 42-14, San Diego St. loss 42-28, Boise St. loss 45-14. Lets see him win a big game. Will Thompson do any better? Probably not.

It isn't always about better athlete with QB's. Vick and Newton are better ATHLETES than Peyton Manning but they don't have shit on Peyton. Jamarcus Russell has one hell of an arm and he is an AWFUL QB.

There is zero chance, absolutely ZERO chance that Thompson has a shot at Smith.
Smith is accurate and can run. He is a pass first qb.
Smith is miles ahead of Thompson.
Thompson would not have made any of the big throws Smith did this year. The 81 yards TD pass against Texas. The OT game winner against Idaho.
Or even Brett Smiths first start EVER when he threw the game winning TD to Herron at the end of the game. Thompson still couldn't make that play now.

And Smith is arguably the best MWC QB. Keaton and Fajardo aren't as good as Smith. Carr maybe, that's a toss up.

Remember Smith broke Andy Daltons freshman record.

Thompson has to redshirt this year. Hopefully Smith doesn't miss a snap this season.

If Smith stays healthy and the team plays up to potential and wins even 8 maybe 9 Smith will win MWC POY. and 1st team MWC.
Thompson will enter 2014 as a redshirt sophomore.
 
J-Rod said:
Looking back on Brett's stats, man he was crazy good against Idaho, CSU, UNM, and UNLV.....unreal numbers. But outside of that, the rest of the performances ranged from good to terrible. Its the story of his career so far.....looks like a 5-star QB against the pasties, not as good against the better defenses.

Brett can be very good, but he proves time and time again that football is a team game. If the core around him (specifically O-Line and RB) do not improve, he's doomed to pull this charade the rest of his career. Good against the nobodies, average-to-bad against the somebodies.

That's basically what I'm saying. There are probably 40 other qb's in the country that could have thrown 26 td's and only 6 int's last year against some of the shitty ass competiton we played. Does that mean I think Thompson will beat out Smith? No, probably not but to say he has no shot with his physical gifts is plain stupid.
 
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?
 
WYCowboy said:
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?
Kellen Moore was sacked 10 times......In his ENTIRE four year career. IMO, it wouldn't have been much better. Football is a TEAM game. One man cannot do it all.
 
Hey Seattle Cowboy-

I think you are pretty damn simplistic, and not looking at the entire picture when evaluating Brett's game, and ultimately being rather harsh. You name Carr, Fajardo, Fales, Keeton...as all being better than Brett, which is ludicrous and actually speaks volumes about your ability, or lack therof, to properly evaluate the position in the first place but lets take a look at these kids shall we?

You mention these guys...All of which have an important critical component going for them that allows them the ability to have more personal success and I would argue an overall easier path to that personal success...an effective run game. Carr had Rouse, 1000 yd rusher the past 2 years, Fajardo had Jefferson, who led the country at one point and also 1000 yd rusher. Fales had a 1000 yard rusher, and Keeton's back last year was a 1000 yd guy and is the current #2 for the Seattle Seahawks. His guy this year will also be an NFL guy and had over a 1000 yards rushing. Is this all some sort of cosmic coincidence? No. It frickin speaks to how important an effective run game is to the overall success of a team, and ultimately to QB play and Brett has never had that luxury since he has been a Wyoming Cowboy. He has earned everything he has accomplished without that luxury which is pretty amazing.

Honestly, how do you think defenses go into each week trying to defend us? I'll give you a hint... It ain't a very tough gameplan to stop Wyoming. Who do you have stop? Its no mystery. Stop Brett Smith...PERIOD. He has no 1000 yd rusher to help take the pressure off...hell, he doesnt even have a 500 yd rusher. Not only does he get ZERO help in the run game, he has to provide 50% of that as well! For these teams like FSU, BSU, TEX its an easy gameplan to only have to stop Brett, and I would argue even with that simple plan, these teams never shut him down completely. Shit, he cant do it alone.

Trade QB's and see what happens. Carr cant face pressure, escape and buy time like Brett can...which is what he had to do so often this season. If you dont believe me watch the Hawaii Bowl this year... Carr's lack of courage in the face of that AWESOME and defensive stalwart SMU rush was pitiful. Fajardo is a good QB but his game is based on play action primarily and is not a progression read offense. I would love to see all the guys you mention trade spots with Brett to see what they would be able to do while being the sole threat offensively. I got a pretty good idea how that would go.

In regards to Brett's arm strength, he had a torn frickin artery in his throwing arm that caused blood clots in his passing hand last year which made gripping the ball next to impossible let alone throwing it, and he played the entire year with it before anyone knew what the hell was wrong with it. This year watch the deep ball to Robb from his own end zone against Texas, or the two 65 yard bombs to Dom vs Toledo, or the three bombs to Chris in Idaho, or the bomb to Robb vs SDSU in the face of a 35 MPH wind, or the 50 yard TD pass he threw on the run to Jalen vs Nevada then get back to me about his arm strength.

Cracks me up how tough some fans are on Brett, but mark this down, that come 5, 10, 20 years from now he'll be the the barometer foe QB play at Wyoming, the measuring stick...he will be the most prolific Wyoming QB ever and his accomplishments will be remembered for a very long time. People will definitely appreciate what they had with him...after he's gone. You better enjoy it now while you can because its going fast and very soon, he will be gone.
 
WYCowboy said:
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?

If everything was the exact same including the offensive gameplan, I believe Moore would either:

1) get killed.

or

2) get rid of the ball immediately and as accurately as possible to his first option, as soon as it hit his hands.

I think the Pokes would have been worse with Moore as our QB the past couple of years, if all things were equal. Smith, just like ACS before him, needs his feet to get himself out of danger, that usually comes quick.
 
cowboyz said:
WYCowboy said:
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?

If everything was the exact same including the offensive gameplan, I believe Moore would either:

1) get killed.

or

2) get rid of the ball immediately and as accurately as possible to his first option, as soon as it hit his hands.

I think the Pokes would have been worse with Moore as our QB the past couple of years, if all things were equal. Smith, just like ACS before him, needs his feet to get himself out of danger, that usually comes quick.

Moore would have been a disaster because of his lack of speed, If you were trying to put someone in the spot that maybe could have been a success it would have been Kaepernick. I see Kaepernick is what Smith has the potential to do eventually. Smith can easily pack on 30 lbs or so they have the same frame I think Kaepernick has a little more zip to his passes but not so much that Smith can't increase his arm strength.
 
Wyo2dal said:
Moore would have been a disaster because of his lack of speed, If you were trying to put someone in the spot that maybe could have been a success it would have been Kaepernick. I see Kaepernick is what Smith has the potential to do eventually. Smith can easily pack on 30 lbs or so they have the same frame I think Kaepernick has a little more zip to his passes but not so much that Smith can't increase his arm strength.
I agree for the most part, but Brett's arm strength couldn't be further from Kap's. Not even close. Brett scrambles with the best of them too, but Kaepernick was special......unbelievable quickness. He could escape from anywhere and anyone......against the better teams last year, Smith was getting sacked left and right. His quickness is good.....until he plays teams quicker than him.
 
Wyoirish said:
Hey Seattle Cowboy-

I think you are pretty damn simplistic, and not looking at the entire picture when evaluating Brett's game, and ultimately being rather harsh. You name Carr, Fajardo, Fales, Keeton...as all being better than Brett, which is ludicrous and actually speaks volumes about your ability, or lack therof, to properly evaluate the position in the first place but lets take a look at these kids shall we?

You mention these guys...All of which have an important critical component going for them that allows them the ability to have more personal success and I would argue an overall easier path to that personal success...an effective run game. Carr had Rouse, 1000 yd rusher the past 2 years, Fajardo had Jefferson, who led the country at one point and also 1000 yd rusher. Fales had a 1000 yard rusher, and Keeton's back last year was a 1000 yd guy and is the current #2 for the Seattle Seahawks. His guy this year will also be an NFL guy and had over a 1000 yards rushing. Is this all some sort of cosmic coincidence? No. It frickin speaks to how important an effective run game is to the overall success of a team, and ultimately to QB play and Brett has never had that luxury since he has been a Wyoming Cowboy. He has earned everything he has accomplished without that luxury which is pretty amazing.

Honestly, how do you think defenses go into each week trying to defend us? I'll give you a hint... It ain't a very tough gameplan to stop Wyoming. Who do you have stop? Its no mystery. Stop Brett Smith...PERIOD. He has no 1000 yd rusher to help take the pressure off...hell, he doesnt even have a 500 yd rusher. Not only does he get ZERO help in the run game, he has to provide 50% of that as well! For these teams like FSU, BSU, TEX its an easy gameplan to only have to stop Brett, and I would argue even with that simple plan, these teams never shut him down completely. Shit, he cant do it alone.

Trade QB's and see what happens. Carr cant face pressure, escape and buy time like Brett can...which is what he had to do so often this season. If you dont believe me watch the Hawaii Bowl this year... Carr's lack of courage in the face of that AWESOME and defensive stalwart SMU rush was pitiful. Fajardo is a good QB but his game is based on play action primarily and is not a progression read offense. I would love to see all the guys you mention trade spots with Brett to see what they would be able to do while being the sole threat offensively. I got a pretty good idea how that would go.

In regards to Brett's arm strength, he had a torn frickin artery in his throwing arm that caused blood clots in his passing hand last year which made gripping the ball next to impossible let alone throwing it, and he played the entire year with it before anyone knew what the hell was wrong with it. This year watch the deep ball to Robb from his own end zone against Texas, or the two 65 yard bombs to Dom vs Toledo, or the three bombs to Chris in Idaho, or the bomb to Robb vs SDSU in the face of a 35 MPH wind, or the 50 yard TD pass he threw on the run to Jalen vs Nevada then get back to me about his arm strength.

Cracks me up how tough some fans are on Brett, but mark this down, that come 5, 10, 20 years from now he'll be the the barometer foe QB play at Wyoming, the measuring stick...he will be the most prolific Wyoming QB ever and his accomplishments will be remembered for a very long time. People will definitely appreciate what they had with him...after he's gone. You better enjoy it now while you can because its going fast and very soon, he will be gone.


This is it EXACTLY!

Smith is going to be the best QB in Wyo history after next season. Everything he does his senior is just gonna be straight up amazing.

He improved from 20TD passing and 10TD rushing with 1TD recieving as a freshman (31 total) to 27TD passing and 6TD rushing (33) total with 3.5 FEWER games.

And he cut down on his picks A LOT. From 11 his first year to 6. And to put in perspective at how much he got better throughout the season...23TD-2Ints starting with the Idaho game through the rest of the seaon, along with all 6 of his rushing TDs.

If he stays healthy this season, he is gonna have far better numbers considering that he is an upper classmen and knows everything about his current group of wide recievers. If Brett Smith plays 14 games this year...he puts up 40 pass TDs. and 4000 yards
 
Wyoirish said:
Hey Seattle Cowboy-

I think you are pretty damn simplistic, and not looking at the entire picture when evaluating Brett's game, and ultimately being rather harsh. You name Carr, Fajardo, Fales, Keeton...as all being better than Brett, which is ludicrous and actually speaks volumes about your ability, or lack therof, to properly evaluate the position in the first place but lets take a look at these kids shall we?

You mention these guys...All of which have an important critical component going for them that allows them the ability to have more personal success and I would argue an overall easier path to that personal success...an effective run game. Carr had Rouse, 1000 yd rusher the past 2 years, Fajardo had Jefferson, who led the country at one point and also 1000 yd rusher. Fales had a 1000 yard rusher, and Keeton's back last year was a 1000 yd guy and is the current #2 for the Seattle Seahawks. His guy this year will also be an NFL guy and had over a 1000 yards rushing. Is this all some sort of cosmic coincidence? No. It frickin speaks to how important an effective run game is to the overall success of a team, and ultimately to QB play and Brett has never had that luxury since he has been a Wyoming Cowboy. He has earned everything he has accomplished without that luxury which is pretty amazing.

Honestly, how do you think defenses go into each week trying to defend us? I'll give you a hint... It ain't a very tough gameplan to stop Wyoming. Who do you have stop? Its no mystery. Stop Brett Smith...PERIOD. He has no 1000 yd rusher to help take the pressure off...hell, he doesnt even have a 500 yd rusher. Not only does he get ZERO help in the run game, he has to provide 50% of that as well! For these teams like FSU, BSU, TEX its an easy gameplan to only have to stop Brett, and I would argue even with that simple plan, these teams never shut him down completely. Shit, he cant do it alone.

Trade QB's and see what happens. Carr cant face pressure, escape and buy time like Brett can...which is what he had to do so often this season. If you dont believe me watch the Hawaii Bowl this year... Carr's lack of courage in the face of that AWESOME and defensive stalwart SMU rush was pitiful. Fajardo is a good QB but his game is based on play action primarily and is not a progression read offense. I would love to see all the guys you mention trade spots with Brett to see what they would be able to do while being the sole threat offensively. I got a pretty good idea how that would go.

In regards to Brett's arm strength, he had a torn frickin artery in his throwing arm that caused blood clots in his passing hand last year which made gripping the ball next to impossible let alone throwing it, and he played the entire year with it before anyone knew what the hell was wrong with it. This year watch the deep ball to Robb from his own end zone against Texas, or the two 65 yard bombs to Dom vs Toledo, or the three bombs to Chris in Idaho, or the bomb to Robb vs SDSU in the face of a 35 MPH wind, or the 50 yard TD pass he threw on the run to Jalen vs Nevada then get back to me about his arm strength.

Cracks me up how tough some fans are on Brett, but mark this down, that come 5, 10, 20 years from now he'll be the the barometer foe QB play at Wyoming, the measuring stick...he will be the most prolific Wyoming QB ever and his accomplishments will be remembered for a very long time. People will definitely appreciate what they had with him...after he's gone. You better enjoy it now while you can because its going fast and very soon, he will be gone.


You sound like you are related to Brett so I'm not even sure why I'm wasting my time since you have a very biassed perspective. I never said Brett was a bad person or a bad QB I just think there are better QB's in the MWC that is all. I saw all those throws you speak of and there were some nice ones be he still lacks arm strength. You can get pissed off all you want but it won't change anything.
I sure hope he is the best QB to ever play at Wyoming and I hope he helps Wyoming win lots of games but I'm not one for homerism and I'm more into reality. Being a relative of Brett's or being a Wyoming fan a lot of people on this board get caught up in putting their brown and gold blinders on and while I can agree Brett is probably better than Fales I still think that Carr, Fajardo and Keeton are better at this point in time. I'll be the first to come back on this board next year during football season and say Brett is better than all of them if he proves me wrong. Until then though I don't think he is a top 15 QB in the country right now and I don't think he is the best QB in the MWC.
Again I sure as hell hope he proves me wrong and I'll be the first to eat crow but that is my opinion as of right now and you of course don't have to like it. :thumb:
 
I think he's already proved himself and a perceived lack of arm strength is the only attribute you are basing your analysis on? The other guys have made the correct points. Give BS a decent running game and he's probably the best QB in the conference. Those other qbs do t have to do it all. They don't have the whole D focused on them. It's actually quite amazing that Brett has done what he has. No one on the current roster is even remotely competing for a starting spot. I don't give a shit if their arm is 10 times stronger.
 
Wyo2dal said:
cowboyz said:
WYCowboy said:
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?

If everything was the exact same including the offensive gameplan, I believe Moore would either:

1) get killed.

or

2) get rid of the ball immediately and as accurately as possible to his first option, as soon as it hit his hands.

I think the Pokes would have been worse with Moore as our QB the past couple of years, if all things were equal. Smith, just like ACS before him, needs his feet to get himself out of danger, that usually comes quick.

Moore would have been a disaster because of his lack of speed, If you were trying to put someone in the spot that maybe could have been a success it would have been Kaepernick. I see Kaepernick is what Smith has the potential to do eventually. Smith can easily pack on 30 lbs or so they have the same frame I think Kaepernick has a little more zip to his passes but not so much that Smith can't increase his arm strength.

I think Moore would have failed miserably. I'll take BSmitty over any other QB in this conference and it's not even close.
 
WYCowboy said:
Wyo2dal said:
cowboyz said:
WYCowboy said:
Hypothetical here, but how do you think Kellen Moore would have done on the Wyoming team in place of Brett Smith the last couple of years with everything else staying the same?

If everything was the exact same including the offensive gameplan, I believe Moore would either:

1) get killed.

or

2) get rid of the ball immediately and as accurately as possible to his first option, as soon as it hit his hands.

I think the Pokes would have been worse with Moore as our QB the past couple of years, if all things were equal. Smith, just like ACS before him, needs his feet to get himself out of danger, that usually comes quick.

Moore would have been a disaster because of his lack of speed, If you were trying to put someone in the spot that maybe could have been a success it would have been Kaepernick. I see Kaepernick is what Smith has the potential to do eventually. Smith can easily pack on 30 lbs or so they have the same frame I think Kaepernick has a little more zip to his passes but not so much that Smith can't increase his arm strength.

I think Moore would have failed miserably. I'll take BSmitty over any other QB in this conference and it's not even close.
Cody Fajardo, maybe, as he's also a dual threat, but BSmitty can take off without the option and can tear defenses up pretty well without a running game. Not saying one isn't needed, but what he's been able to do without a reliable runnig game is incredible.
 
fromolwyoming said:
Cody Fajardo, maybe, as he's also a dual threat, but BSmitty can take off without the option and can tear defenses up pretty well without a running game. Not saying one isn't needed, but what he's been able to do without a reliable runnig game is incredible.
What? Fajardo is average compared to Smith. Without Ault there to hold his hand, Fajardo will fall off the scene along with the rest of Nevada next season. Jefferson gone, mass exodus on defense, legendary coach exits, crazy ass schedule....sounds like a 3-9 team to me.

In terms of straight up talent, Derek Carr is probably better than Brett. His O-Line is complete trash, but given time, he can be very very good. Too bad that's not reality for him......or Brett.
 
laxwyo said:
I think he's already proved himself and a perceived lack of arm strength is the only attribute you are basing your analysis on? The other guys have made the correct points. Give BS a decent running game and he's probably the best QB in the conference. Those other qbs do t have to do it all. They don't have the whole D focused on them. It's actually quite amazing that Brett has done what he has. No one on the current roster is even remotely competing for a starting spot. I don't give a shit if their arm is 10 times stronger.

Arm strength is just one thing. Brett has obviously proved himself, never said he hasn't. Carr, Fajardo and Keeton are all more accurate throwers at this point in their careers than Brett is. Fajardo and Keeton can both run just as well as Brett does also. So no I'm not basing it all on just one thing. If you want to say they are are equal than we can go to their teams and of course as you guys have said Fresno, Nevada and Utah St. all have better records and all 3 teams beat Wyoming last time they played so guess that gives them the nod there as well. Brett did have good stats but all of these other guys did as well.
You guys say give him a decent running game and he "probably" is the best QB in the conference. Maybe he is maybe he isn't but you are basing it on "what if's" so we don't know yet. Like I said he can prove me wrong and hopefully he does. Honestly unless we start winning games I don't care if he throws for 40 td's and 0 interceptions.
I'm not here to bash Brett by any means , I said he was a great person and a good QB I'm just saying as of right now he isn't the best in the MWC. You guys don't have to like my opinion and that's fine. Good thing my opinion doesn't matter ;) We all have are own opinions. No hard feelings.
 
J-Rod said:
fromolwyoming said:
Cody Fajardo, maybe, as he's also a dual threat, but BSmitty can take off without the option and can tear defenses up pretty well without a running game. Not saying one isn't needed, but what he's been able to do without a reliable runnig game is incredible.
What? Fajardo is average compared to Smith. Without Ault there to hold his hand, Fajardo will fall off the scene along with the rest of Nevada next season. Jefferson gone, mass exodus on defense, legendary coach exits, crazy ass schedule....sounds like a 3-9 team to me.

In terms of straight up talent, Derek Carr is probably better than Brett. His O-Line is complete trash, but given time, he can be very very good. Too bad that's not reality for him......or Brett.
Nevada didn't have a good defense. It was comparable to ours.

And Derek Carr, really? The guy folded under pressure like Lindley did everytime a little bit pressure was put on him. He also finishe with -42 yards rushing...
 
Seattlecowboy, you are wrong. Dead wrong.

Those QBs (Carr, Keaton, Fajita) all beat Wyoming, but was it because they are better than Brett Smith? Hell no.
How is Wyomings D giving up 63 points to Utah State show in ANY WAY that Keaton is better than brett smith? The game was over at half time. I was there. Keaton had 1 nice TD and the rest were just lil short passes and screens.

Carr and his offense put up 42 points on a deflated defense on Wyoming. So Carr is better?

Brett doesn't have the greatest arm strength but that is the ONLY thing you can say that he doesn't have going.
Like everyone is pointing out, if those QBs had to come into our situation, they would not be able to do anything that brett smith is.

Smith is the best. You are wrong. Thompson has no freakin shot at brett smith and if he honestly thinks he is gonna be the starter should be forced to take a drug test.
 

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