Stanard

[JimmyDimes]

The only expectation I have for this man is to be fired and replaced by an Inanimate Carbon Rod.


just spit out a little bit of coffee

Agreed! :lol:

I guess I just think that practically, I see no way he leaves after this year.

My hope is that the supporting cast of coaches are better and will make him look better. I do agree with others, however, the first two years are going to be pretty tough to evaluate him on.

It seems to me that Bohl won't put up with bad or mediocre. If Stanard doesn't make the defense top notch, then I think Bohl would have no problem finding someone who will. I don't see the Joe Glenn level of loyalty in Bohl.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Did we really improve on defense last season? Or did we just hold onto the ball on offense longer?

Definitely could be this. We were ranked about 16 last year in TOP and somewhere around 90 the year before.

Hahaha and we won 1 less game and all those TOP fans were screaming about how much better it would be.

I think a good way to find out if the D was better is points and yard per defensive possession.

 

[TheRealUW]

I think a good way to find out if the D was better is points and yard per defensive possession.

An even better stat would probably be defensive efficiency. It is a stat that attempts to quantify how much the defensive unit contributed to the team's scoring margin on a per play basis. They adjust this for strength of offense faced and amount of "garbage time" in a given game.

Using this stat, UW ranked:

110th nationally (out of 128) in 2014
109th nationally (out of 126) in 2013

So…not much change.

 

[McPeachy]

I think a good way to find out if the D was better is points and yard per defensive possession.

An even better stat would probably be defensive efficiency. It is a stat that attempts to quantify how much the defensive unit contributed to the team's scoring margin on a per play basis. They adjust this for strength of offense faced and amount of "garbage time" in a given game.

Using this stat, UW ranked:

110th nationally (out of 128) in 2014
109th nationally (out of 126) in 2013

So…not much change.

Good info...will be interesting to look back, but I don't want to get too ahead of myself. I would guess we will probably be right there again in 2015.

And being a TOP fan (yes, that is me Beav), it is just basic logic. If you limit the time your opponent has the ball, and you maximize the time you have the ball - and of course the majority of outcomes accordingly, you will win more than you will lose. A shitty staff & team can mask a lot with that strategy.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

The only expectation I have for this man is to be fired and replaced by an Inanimate Carbon Rod.


just spit out a little bit of coffee

Agreed! :lol:

I guess I just think that practically, I see no way he leaves after this year.

My hope is that the supporting cast of coaches are better and will make him look better. I do agree with others, however, the first two years are going to be pretty tough to evaluate him on.

It seems to me that Bohl won't put up with bad or mediocre. If Stanard doesn't make the defense top notch, then I think Bohl would have no problem finding someone who will. I don't see the Joe Glenn level of loyalty in Bohl.

I agree. Bohl will give him his chances and he better produce. If not, he'll be gone.

 

[jbeiermann]

Im a HUGE wyo fan. I work with Stanards ex wife. Him and bohl not good with family! But know how to coach

 

[fromolwyoming]

Im a HUGE wyo fan. I work with Stanards ex wife. Him and bohl not good with family! But know how to coach

Rule of thumb when comes to ex-spouses is to take everything with a ton of salt.

 

[johnywyo]

Someone enlighten me on Standards past roles as a DC, I recall some pretty venomous rants on this guys previous gigs. Our secondary was riddled with issues last year. Outside of Nzeocha at LB there wasn't much depth or skill at that position either. Our D was supposed to be our strong suit last year as well. I'm worried this year could leave us even more exposed.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Someone enlighten me on Standards past roles as a DC, I recall some pretty venomous rants on this guys previous gigs. Our secondary was riddled with issues last year. Outside of Nzeocha at LB there wasn't much depth or skill at that position either. Our D was supposed to be our strong suit last year as well. I'm worried this year could leave us even more exposed.

Our starters on defense were supposed to be our strength on defense, until about half of them seemed to bite the dust as the season went on. We really didn't have much depth anywhere last season, aside from RB and WR.

 

[lakesbison]

Someone enlighten me on Standards past roles as a DC, I recall some pretty venomous rants on this guys previous gigs. Our secondary was riddled with issues last year. Outside of Nzeocha at LB there wasn't much depth or skill at that position either. Our D was supposed to be our strong suit last year as well. I'm worried this year could leave us even more exposed.

He had a rough go at Colorado st. At NDSU he had the luxury of nfl players and bohl /Klieman calling the defensive plays. Him & vigen were the biggest worries from NDSU fanbase

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Someone enlighten me on Standards past roles as a DC, I recall some pretty venomous rants on this guys previous gigs. Our secondary was riddled with issues last year. Outside of Nzeocha at LB there wasn't much depth or skill at that position either. Our D was supposed to be our strong suit last year as well. I'm worried this year could leave us even more exposed.

I think he had a decent stint at NMSU as D coordinator but has been a disaster for every program since. I know he was pretty bad at CSU. I think he spent some time at Tulane and Ohio but I don't remember his roles at those places.

Look at it this way, how long has been in the game? An older guy that has had a few DC positions and ends up as a position coach in FCS. If that isn't red flag, I don't know what is.

Like I said, I trust Bohl, so I'm in full support. Luckily the MWC is chalk full of terrible offenses.

 

[hithere]

I'm going to make these stats my signature. Stanard is a retread that never trod. Terrible coach.


Year Team Defensive Ranking
2000 nmsu 95
2001 nmsu 87
2002 nmsu 54
2003 csu 55
2004 csu 88
2005 csu 99
2006 csu 53
2007 csu 80[/quote]

I hate Steve Stanard. There's a special place in my heart for how much I think his hiring was a colossal mistake. I will dump on him as an FBS DC every chance I get. Here are his numbers:

http://www.wyonation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10790&p=111676#p111672" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This year he's been dealt about as shitty of a hand as you could get with injuries, returning terrible players like DeAndre Jones and an overall lack of talent when it comes to basic, fundamental tackling. I loved the quote from a few weeks ago that they were really going to concentrate on fundamentals that week in practice. He says these things. A lot. He said it at all his previous stops in Fort Collins and Las Cruces and New Orleans.

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http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/wyoming-s-bohl-says-team-will-emphasize-rest-fundamentals-in/article_8bcbdfb6-0386-59dc-b5f9-b14d131d6a3f.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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You better believe I looked for almost fifteen whole minutes for Stanard's bullshit, coachspeak quotes.

And this is where he gets off with some fans on "giving him a few years". HE'S HAD 13+ YEARS IN HIS CAREER AS A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

I'm 100% on board for giving Bohl time to establish his system. Any coach needs at least 3 to 5 years for positive results. But shame on you if you think Steve Stanard is going to improve any team's defense, ever.

And that includes Craig Bohl.

 

[JimmyDimes]

I'm going to make these stats my signature. Stanard is a retread that never trod. Terrible coach.


Year Team Defensive Ranking
2000 nmsu 95
2001 nmsu 87
2002 nmsu 54
2003 csu 55
2004 csu 88
2005 csu 99
2006 csu 53
2007 csu 80

That makes a lot of sense.....do you have anything more recent? 2007 was a long time ago. I am completely shocked he couldn't make the Fairchild lead Rams or New Mexico State a solid defensive football team. Shocked! :roll:

 

[seattlecowboy]

Stanard was defensive coordinator at Tulane from 2009 to 2011.

Tulane 2009 record - 3-9
Tulane 2010 record - 4-8
Tulane 2011 record - 2-11

Defensive stats

2009 total defense ranked 91 gave up 422 ypg. 36.7 ppg.
2010 total defense ranked 55 gave up 390 ypg. 37.2 ppg.
2011 total defense ranked 94 gave up 410 ypg. 37.5 ppg.


Not a stellar track record.

 

[JimmyDimes]

Stanard was defensive coordinator at Tulane from 2009 to 2011.

Tulane 2009 record - 3-9
Tulane 2010 record - 4-8
Tulane 2011 record - 2-11

Defensive stats

2009 total defense ranked 91 gave up 422 ypg. 36.7 ppg.
2010 total defense ranked 55 gave up 390 ypg. 37.2 ppg.
2011 total defense ranked 94 gave up 410 ypg. 37.5 ppg.


Not a stellar track record.

Tulane was not a great program to begin with....like New Mexico State and CSU under Fairchild

You guys can write him off....I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt....especially now that he is working on Bohl's staff.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

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Tulane was not a great program to begin with....like New Mexico State and CSU under Fairchild

You guys can write him off....I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt....especially now that he is working on Bohl's staff.

You really need to work on your MWC history.

 

[JimmyDimes]

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Tulane was not a great program to begin with....like New Mexico State and CSU under Fairchild

You guys can write him off....I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt....especially now that he is working on Bohl's staff.

You really need to work on your MWC history.

I don't think I need to....and just because he coached under Lubich during Sonny's final days doesn't change my opinion. Or my opinion of this board.

Peace.

 

[seattlecowboy]

I'm not writing him off. I was just showing what his more recent track record is. BUT part of the reason Tulane wasn't good was because of their defense.

In 2013 the 2nd year after Stanard was gone Tulane's defense ranked 22nd in total defense giving up 350 ypg. 18th in ppg giving up 21.4 ppg. They finished at 7-6 for the year.

2014 The team took a step back but still ranked 81 in ppg giving up 28.4 ppg which is more than a touchdown less than Stanard defenses ever gave up . Total defense ranked 56 giving up 387 ypg.

So we will see if Stanard can improve or not but his track record based up on being given 3 or 4 chances already he has never improved. He seems to be pretty consistent.

 

[JimmyDimes]

I'm not writing him off. I was just showing what his more recent track record is. BUT part of the reason Tulane wasn't good was because of their defense.

In 2013 the 2nd year after Stanard was gone Tulane's defense ranked 22nd in total defense giving up 350 ypg. 18th in ppg giving up 21.4 ppg. They finished at 7-6 for the year.

2014 The team took a step back but still ranked 81 in ppg giving up 28.4 ppg which is more than a touchdown less than Stanard defenses ever gave up . Total defense ranked 56 giving up 387 ypg.

So we will see if Stanard can improve or not but his track record based up on being given 3 or 4 chances already he has never improved. He seems to be pretty consistent.

Two + years removed from firing Bob Toledo as their head coach as well (he was fired during the 2011 season). Toledo never had much success....regardless of who his coordinators were.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

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Tulane was not a great program to begin with....like New Mexico State and CSU under Fairchild

You guys can write him off....I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt....especially now that he is working on Bohl's staff.

You really need to work on your MWC history.

I don't think I need to....and just because he coached under Lubich during Sonny's final days doesn't change my opinion. Or my opinion of this board.

Peace.

:rofl: Yeah you do. He spent something like HALF A DECADE under LUBICK and wasn't under Fairchild.